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Why do you use ThinkOrSwim?

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8) Do you believe ThinkOrSwim is competitively priced?
Since I only trade options, my answer would be no. They charge a per contract rate of .70 plus a per trade rate of 9.95. The .70 rate per contract is competitive, but adding the 9.95 per trade on top of that puts them over the top as compared to other self-directed brokers such in Interactive Brokers.

Register for free at dough.com and open a tda brokerage account through their link. Unless something has changed since I did, you will get a flat 1.50 rate on options (depending on your size, maybe your cheaper with the 9.95). I believe you can still buy back short options for free that are .05 or less. You will also support tastytrade.com and be able to use TOS. Not sure if your current structure has it, but beware the $15 assigment fee if you get exercised.

https://www.tastytrade.com/tt/get-trading?locale=en-US

oh, and you can trade with dough, a pretty slick option platform.


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Register for free at dough.com and open a tda brokerage account through their link. Unless something has changed since I did, you will get a flat 1.50 rate on options (depending on your size, maybe your cheaper with the 9.95). I believe you can still buy back short options for free that are .05 or less. You will also support tastytrade.com and be able to use TOS. Not sure if your current structure has it, but beware the $15 assigment fee if you get exercised.



oh, and you can trade with dough, a pretty slick option platform.

Thanks for the info. I am aware of the special pricing given to members of Tastytrade and the new platform Dough. The 1.50 per contract is a good rate if you are only trading a few contracts and that is what it is designed for. I usually trade in 10 lots. So an iron condor would be 40 contracts. You multiply that by 1.50 and you come up with $60.00. My current rate is .70 per contract plus 9.95 per trade. So the same 10 lot iron condor would be $37.95. The same trade in my Interactive Broker account would be $28.00. Since I often leg out of an iron condor when I reach a 50% profit, using my TOS account, I would pay the 9.95 trade fee twice. That is why I don't trade as much in my TOS account as I do in my IB account. I mainly use TOS for analytics.

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Thanks for the info. I am aware of the special pricing given to members of Tastytrade and the new platform Doug. The 1.50 per contract is a good rate if you are only trading a few contracts and that is what it is designed for. I usually trade in 10 lots. So an iron condor would be 40 contracts. You muyt? Radingltiply that by 1.50 and you come up with $60.00. My current rate is .70 per contract plus 9.95 per trade. So the same 10 lot iron condor would be $37.95. The same trade in my Interactive Broker account would be $28.00. Since I often leg out of an iron condor when I reach a 50% profit, using my TOS account, I would pay the 9.95 trade fee twice. That is why I don't trade as much in my TOS account as I do in my IB account. I mainly use TOS for analytics.

Same here! Trading a smaller acct. Using the above and a larger one at IB.I know ib's commissions vary based on what exchange u were filled on and if u provided or took liquidity from the market. personally i like having both at my disposal especially because so much is done mobile for me. Probly getting off topic so best trading to you!

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Thanks for the info. I am aware of the special pricing given to members of Tastytrade and the new platform Dough. The 1.50 per contract is a good rate if you are only trading a few contracts and that is what it is designed for. I usually trade in 10 lots. So an iron condor would be 40 contracts. You multiply that by 1.50 and you come up with $60.00. My current rate is .70 per contract plus 9.95 per trade. So the same 10 lot iron condor would be $37.95. The same trade in my Interactive Broker account would be $28.00. Since I often leg out of an iron condor when I reach a 50% profit, using my TOS account, I would pay the 9.95 trade fee twice. That is why I don't trade as much in my TOS account as I do in my IB account. I mainly use TOS for analytics.


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1) How long have you been using ThinkOrSwim?
8) Do you believe ThinkOrSwim is competitively priced?
Meh. Too expensive for my taste. I do most of my execution with OptionHouse nowadays

Samesies. I noticed you said there is chart lag. I used to love ThinkOrSwim charting personally, but I moved over to the (free) tradingview and haven't looked back since. They aren't a brokerage, they just strictly allow members to use their charts and have a community within. I use ToS for alerts on spreads and because their option chains are easier to load/read than OptionHouse but other than that, ThinkOrSwim is just a backup trading account for me that I occasionally execute low contract option trades or stock trades with.

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I have used TOS for almost 7 years now. While i like the system they have i feel that their pricing is not competitive any more.

I would like to know what you TOS users are paying. Please PM me and I will share with you my commission rate. I am thinking about calling them and asking for a lower commission rate.

thanks
Alex

If you go to tastytrade set up with them in dough fee is lower for TOS . Check it out worked for my act.
Great place to learn options.

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Just out of curiosity, how are the rates like for trading ETFs? I heard IB is better priced but are they really overpriced compared to IB?

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1) How long have you been using ThinkOrSwim? 1.5 years
2) What are your favorite features of ThinkOrSwim? The options analysis tab
3) What are some must-have deal breaker features in ThinkOrSwim that you could not do without? analysis tab
4) Do you use ThinkOrSwim in simulation mode only, or do you place live trades with it? Live trades
5) Are you a discretionary trader or an algorithmic trader? How does ThinkOrSwim help you with this? discretionary trader. I scan for setups that meet my rules, use the analysis tab to select the right trade, and then place the trade
6) How easy/hard was it for you to learn to use ThinkOrSwim? moderate. I put several hours into learning what I wanted to know
7) How do you rate ThinkOrSwim's customer service/support, assuming you have needed to use it? good to excellent
8) Do you believe ThinkOrSwim is competitively priced? yes, the platform is free for me! I think I'm getting a good commission rate, too
9) How do you rate the community support that exists for ThinkOrSwim? good to excellent

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1) How long have you been using ThinkOrSwim? 0.5 years
2) What are your favorite features of ThinkOrSwim? Order entry
3) What are some must-have deal breaker features in ThinkOrSwim that you could not do without? Ease of order entry for Options
4) Do you use ThinkOrSwim in simulation mode only, or do you place live trades with it? Both
5) Are you a discretionary trader or an algorithmic trader? How does ThinkOrSwim help you with this? discretionary Options trader
6) How easy/hard was it for you to learn to use ThinkOrSwim? Very easy compared other brokers Options platforms
7) How do you rate ThinkOrSwim's customer service/support, assuming you have needed to use it? good but it is a bit confusing when you live in Canada as the platform is modified to not allow Futures which is a pain.
8) Do you believe ThinkOrSwim is competitively priced? It is a bit higher than others so I may switch
9) How do you rate the community support that exists for ThinkOrSwim? good

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1) How long have you been using ThinkOrSwim? 6 months
2) What are your favorite features of ThinkOrSwim? 1 click trades for complex option spreads, linked charts
3) What are some must-have deal breaker features in ThinkOrSwim that you could not do without? Ability to view multiple charts with links to watchlists
4) Do you use ThinkOrSwim in simulation mode only, or do you place live trades with it? Live trades only
5) Are you a discretionary trader or an algorithmic trader? How does ThinkOrSwim help you with this? Discretionary trader, ability to view multiple charts with links to watchlists
6) How easy/hard was it for you to learn to use ThinkOrSwim? Very easy
7) How do you rate ThinkOrSwim's customer service/support, assuming you have needed to use it? Very good
8) Do you believe ThinkOrSwim is competitively priced? Yes, when you factor in free real time data, and no platform fees
9) How do you rate the community support that exists for ThinkOrSwim? N/A, I don't really use it

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