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It looks like I will spend $100-240 on a SSD for the OS and whichever trading platform I decide to go with. How big do the databases get for these programs? Multicharts says 3GB, so I'm thinking I should allot 10 or so GB on the SSD for trading apps.

My MultiCharts directory is 2GB. My NT7 directory is 1.5GB. My last post said 30-50GB but clearly I was dreaming. 10GB is more than enough. A typical Windows 7 install is about 10GB I think. Add another 2-4GB for a pagefile. If you aren't playing games or doing anything other than trading, a 64GB SSD should be fine. Personally, I had 4x32GB SSD's in a RAID 0 and like I said, I killed them inside of six months to where they were worthless. Bad taste in my mouth on SSD's but I think I just bought the wrong drives, right when they were making major advancements on the higher end drives (3 years ago). So, probably safe now.

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Forgot to add: Windows 7 64 uses significantly less RAM than Vista 64 (assuming you are making that move), so you will be fine with 8 GB.

SSD - I haven't moved to SSD yet. They had their issues in the early days but since the introduction of TRIM and Windows 7 support, performance is very steady (and blazing!) in non RAID configurations. Not sure if SSD RAID has been sorted out for Windows 7 yet. I do plan on getting a new system with SSD before year end.

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"I think I would just need this adapter to run more than 2 monitors (non-displayport) off that Eyefinity card."

I looked into an adapter like that for my setup and found that while it would let me hook up one non-displayport monitor, the way displayport enables additional monitors is by daisy-chaining them together; connecting the additional monitors to each other rather than connecting each monitor to the pc. The regular radeon cards only have internal capacity to directly power 2 monitors each, in spite of the fact that some of them have 3 more more outputs. The only way they can power 3 or more monitors is by daisy-chaining the monitors together with displayport cables.

The Eyefinity claim that they can power 3 more monitors with one card is a little bit deceptive if you don't research and find the fine print. Eyefinity video card descriptions don't always mention that at least two of the monitors have to be displayport-enabled for this to work, as I found out the hard way.

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If you have the money, get the Intel SSDs... you will get the best performance that money can buy you at a retail level... it will make a huge different for a lot of different charting programs... your other alternative is to get SAS 15K RPM drives and stripe them.. but it will still set you back some $$$...

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I have four Acer 24" monitors now and I will not buy Acer again.

is that why you are giving one of them away?

I prefer samsung & LG monitors.. better quality overall..

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is that why you are giving one of them away?

I prefer samsung & LG monitors.. better quality overall..

You are mistaken -- I am giving away an Asus 24" in the contest. I own Acer 24's. They both start with A but that is it... also, the winner of the contest can contact me to arrange for an alternative prize if they wish, as it says in the contest info. The prize is new, not used, hence my willingness to buy whatever the winner wants.

Also if you look at Newegg, the Asus 24" I linked to on the contest page is the highest rated 24" they have.

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is that why you are giving one of them away?

I prefer samsung & LG monitors.. better quality overall..

Nice catch, sysot.

Looks like if one wants to win that Asus monitor, they have to start a "Real World" classroom teaching beginners how to trade with MA and other garden variety indicators using annotated charts instead of ones with real-time entries and exits as learning examples.

I'll stick to my three 19" Samsung 920N that are 4 years old and work as well now as the first day I installed them, yet I can always use a free Amazon gift card, so click that thanks button-- if you appreciate my overall contribution to futures.io (formerly BMT). What the heck, it won't cost you one red cent to do it.

Mickie thanks you in advance for your clicks.


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You are mistaken -- I am giving away an Asus 24" in the contest. I own Acer 24's. They both start with A but that is it... also, the winner of the contest can contact me to arrange for an alternative prize if they wish, as it says in the contest info. The prize is new, not used, hence my willingness to buy whatever the winner wants.

Also if you look at Newegg, the Asus 24" I linked to on the contest page is the highest rated 24" they have.

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dood.. it was a joke... I know it was an asus.. it was close to acer(asus) get it?... so it was worth messing with you... you are winded up too tightly... relax bud..

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Current config.

Here is what I have now:

Case and PSU: Antec TruePower TP750 750W, Antec Nine Black Steel ATX - $210 (I may save $10 by going with the "Storm Scout" case.)
Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G - $120
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition - $266
Video Card: XFX Radeon 5450 512MB - $45
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 VTXE60G - $145
Hard Drive (1): Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s $90
Monitor (3) Acer G235HAbd 23'' WideScreen LCD monitor $480 (this will probably change)

I don't know what to do about memory. I looked at the QVL for the motherboard and I didn't see any 8GB 2 dimm kits. Can I just get any 8GB 2 dimm kit of DDR1333 off newegg or is that too reckless? Do the memory companies have lists of motherboards their memory is guaranteed to work with?

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Here is what I have now:

Case and PSU: Antec TruePower TP750 750W, Antec Nine Black Steel ATX - $210 (I may save $10 by going with the "Storm Scout" case.)
Motherboard: ASUS M4A88TD-V EVO/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G - $120
CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition - $266
Video Card: XFX Radeon 5450 512MB - $45
SSD: OCZ Vertex 2 VTXE60G - $145
Hard Drive (1): Western Digital Caviar Black WD1002FAEX 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s $90
Monitor (3) Acer G235HAbd 23'' WideScreen LCD monitor $480 (this will probably change)

I don't know what to do about memory. I looked at the QVL for the motherboard and I didn't see any 8GB 2 dimm kits. Can I just get any 8GB 2 dimm kit of DDR1333 off newegg or is that too reckless? Do the memory companies have lists of motherboards their memory is guaranteed to work with?

consider this instead.. just my recommendation.. nothing more.

XFX HD-465X-ZDF2 Radeon HD 4650 1GB 128-bit DDR2 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card $60
Intel Core i5-655K Clarkdale 3.2GHz 4MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 73W Dual-Core Unlocked Desktop Processor BX80616I5655K $200 (you can overclock easily to 4.5Ghz..)
ASUS Crosshair IV Formula AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard $200

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