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I know that this thread has been closed for a while but i thought this would be the most appropriate place to ask my question. I have been begun scalping for the past couple of months. I am able to get into trades but for me to get out, at my pre set target, the price most go one tick above the target. I understand that this can happens but it seems to be occuring to me every trade. My question is do I need to upgrade my internet speed. After reading all the previous posts, I understand that my ping speed is crucial. I just ran a test and it was around 17-23ms. Do I need to lower this speed to around 9-11ms and if so how. I am good with computers but when it comes to this, I get completely lost. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

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I know that this thread has been closed for a while but i thought this would be the most appropriate place to ask my question. I have been begun scalping for the past couple of months. I am able to get into trades but for me to get out, at my pre set target, the price most go one tick above the target. I understand that this can happens but it seems to be occuring to me every trade. My question is do I need to upgrade my internet speed. After reading all the previous posts, I understand that my ping speed is crucial. I just ran a test and it was around 17-23ms. Do I need to lower this speed to around 9-11ms and if so how. I am good with computers but when it comes to this, I get completely lost. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

Bandwidth has about zero to do with trading.

Latency can affect fills. There is virtually nothing you can do to improve latency, unless you are trading from a satellite provider in which case don't do that. Beyond that, don't use wifi but instead direct cable, and don't use a shared or overburdened connection (ie someone downloading a lot in the background).

Your other option is to move, or use a VPS.

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I know that this thread has been closed for a while but i thought this would be the most appropriate place to ask my question. I have been begun scalping for the past couple of months. I am able to get into trades but for me to get out, at my pre set target, the price most go one tick above the target. I understand that this can happens but it seems to be occuring to me every trade. My question is do I need to upgrade my internet speed. After reading all the previous posts, I understand that my ping speed is crucial. I just ran a test and it was around 17-23ms. Do I need to lower this speed to around 9-11ms and if so how. I am good with computers but when it comes to this, I get completely lost. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks

What are you trading and how/when are you putting in your orders. If your last in the queue you will get the last fill before the price changes. It seems strange that you would always be last in the queue gettiing out but not getting in, unless of course you are entering your orders very differently. (ie putting entry orders in as soon as the market opens but putting exit orders in last second).

When you say your ping is 17-23 ms what do you mean. If that's your ping to the order server/gateway at the exchange I would say that is plenty fast enough. If that's your ping to your local broker in the middle of no-where, who knows what the latency is the other side of him.


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Bandwidth has about zero to do with trading.

My XTrader struggles to perform correctly on a 3MB DSL connection when data bursts, but works perfectly on my 50MB Cable connectionm 99.9% of the time. Intuitively this doesn't make sense to me, as I'm surprised I'm really pulling that much data, but it consistently fails if I'm using my full desk top on DSL. I guess it depends how many contracts you are trying to pull (I'm pulling a LOT, energy doesnt just trade the prompt contract like so many Index/Financial/Forex products). I would agree though that Bandwidth shouldn't be important because if it is you should be colocated.

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What are you trading and how/when are you putting in your orders. If your last in the queue you will get the last fill before the price changes. It seems strange that you would always be last in the queue gettiing out but not getting in, unless of course you are entering your orders very differently. (ie putting entry orders in as soon as the market opens but putting exit orders in last second).

When you say your ping is 17-23 ms what do you mean. If that's your ping to the order server/gateway at the exchange I would say that is plenty fast enough. If that's your ping to your local broker in the middle of no-where, who knows what the latency is the other side of him.


My XTrader struggles to perform correctly on a 3MB DSL connection when data bursts, but works perfectly on my 50MB Cable connectionm 99.9% of the time. Intuitively this doesn't make sense to me, as I'm surprised I'm really pulling that much data, but it consistently fails if I'm using my full desk top on DSL. I guess it depends how many contracts you are trying to pull (I'm pulling a LOT, energy doesnt just trade the prompt contract like so many Index/Financial/Forex products). I would agree though that Bandwidth shouldn't be important because if it is you should be colocated.

I recently documented bandwidth for 30 minutes after the open on 277 symbols here:
https://futures.io/elite-automated-trading/29764-big-mike-s-custom-trading-platform-18.html#post378020

Mike

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I recently documented bandwidth for 30 minutes after the open on 277 symbols here:
https://futures.io/elite-automated-trading/29764-big-mike-s-custom-trading-platform-18.html#post378020

Mike

Not trying to get into a bragging match but I'm pulling a lot more than 277 symbols.
I'd look at your link but its unavailable. Maybe if theres something valuable in their you could post it here.


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Maybe if theres something valuable in their you could post it here.

I guess there isn't

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