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My Story!!!

I thought my computer was safe.

I have had McAfee's Full protection suite on my computer since its purchase 5 years ago.

While monitoring an NT program this week, my computer suddenly shutdown, rebooted twice, then my external drive began chattering.

I knew I was in trouble. I yanked the data cable off the back of the external drive.

I then got a popup warning my computer had been compromised and that it would download the fix.

A down load window opened on its own and began importing data.

I killed the download. 10 seconds later it repeated. I killed it again. After 4 or 5 times, I removed the internet cable from the back of my computer.

The trojan program sat on my screen in a download loop waiting for its download to finish.

I ran McAfee's full scan and it detected NO PROBLEMS !!!!

I made a few calls and was told I needed to run spyware on my PC.

I had to stop the Trojan before I could do anything else.

I opened the task manager and selected processes.

I slid my mouse repeatedly over the trojan popup.

The trojan began nipping bits of CPU time and I spotted it. (Bravidx.exe)

I selected it and clicked end task. The trojan program disappeared off my computer screen.

I reconnected the internet cable and everything remained quiet.

I got online and I wasn't in the mood to do comparison shopping.

I selected and downloaded STOPzilla. I ran it on my computer over and over again.

Each time it found more problems. Euck !!!!

The fourth time, it ran clean. Total problems found and removed = 262 !!!!

Deleted all my old backups, made new ones.

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I then got a popup warning my computer had been compromised and that it would download the fix.

Sounds like that message itself is just malware/trojan to begin with. There is no such real Windows warning message to do with being "compromised" and unlikely McAfee would need to download anything to "fix" something. McAfee should quarantine and prevent the application from running, it wouldn't need to download something to do that.

Run Malware Bytes to do a malware scan:
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I can't stand McAfee or Norton, so if it were me, I would uninstall that and install something else. I use NOD32 personally.

Also, make sure you don't use Internet Explorer. You need to use FireFox and keep it up-to-date with security patches (it will prompt to do so automatically).

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Firewall: Zonearlam "Free Edition"
Virus: Antivir "Personal Edition"
Spybot Search and Destroy for Spyware
CCleaner for Registry, Browser Cache ...

I do not use commerical products, they work together with the spys and trojans ... so the can make money with their software ...

Go with a Box into the net (mean ubuntu in xp/vista) and use a share folder or samba file server ...

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I run my Windows XP on APPLE Mac (using VMware Fusion). To ensure stronger protection against viruses, malware, etc, I still have AVIRA Premium Security Suite (very good antivirus/spyware software).

As for browser, I use Safari browser (Windows version); the latest Version 4 is a beauty and it is free. Please, use it. IE sucks.

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I can't stand McAfee or Norton, so if it were me, I would uninstall that and install something else. I use NOD32 personally.

Another vote for NOD32. I have it on all the computers in my family and we've never had one virus or trojan. Well worth it and it's the fastest virus program there is.

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We had a thunderstorm the other day and lightning struck somewhere nearby. I saw a spark shoot from my laptop and now it won't turn on. My desktop's internet hardware is broken. I had all equipment plugged into surge protectors with the exception of my modem and router, which I thought were connected to a surge protector. I wasn't on a wireless network. How do we protect ourselves from events like this besides checking to make sure no one's tampered with the surge protectors or going wireless? Are surge protectors a real safeguard?

I would recommend Mozy for backing up your computer but the jury is still out. My experience is that the backup takes FOREVER.

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Probably the best surge protector you can have is to install a surge protector with a ground on your house. You can have this installed through your electric company or have a electrician come out to install. Definitely worth the money.

If an electrician does the job you'll pay for his time plus the parts. If the electric company does the job then they'll probably install it for free and charge you a monthly fee of something like $5 a month.

If you are in an area that has allot of lightening strikes then you might consider having a ground array installed with the surge protector.

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fyi - All houses should already have a ground. Maybe there's an issue with the ground on your house. I'm not sure but I think the electric company can come and check it for free.

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I highly recommend a UPS for your PC, Router, Cable Modem, and Monitor. Everything else should bypass the UPS such as Speakers with Amps and printers. Buy one big enough to handle the wattage of your PC power supply and other devices that might be connected.

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I highly recommend a UPS for your PC, Router, Cable Modem, and Monitor. Everything else should bypass the UPS such as Speakers with Amps and printers. Buy one big enough to handle the wattage of your PC power supply and other devices that might be connected.

-Rich

Rich, thanks for the recommendations. What is a UPS?

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Hi guys,

If you live in an area where there is frequent lightning strikes ( here where I live in Florida -
alot!), you might want to look into replacing that $ 25-00 surge protector you bought at the
local hardware shop. Check this out https://zerosurge.com/ I know it seems expensive ( 2pt of profit) but well worth it.

It lets through no surge. Read up about the details of
how their product works compared to the usual sure protectors. Take it from a high voltage
electrical engineer - if you can afford it this might just be the way to go to get rid of surges.
I know I am getting one.....

my five and a half cents

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We had a thunderstorm the other day and lightning struck somewhere nearby. I saw a spark shoot from my laptop and now it won't turn on. My desktop's internet hardware is broken. I had all equipment plugged into surge protectors with the exception of my modem and router, which I thought were connected to a surge protector. I wasn't on a wireless network. How do we protect ourselves from events like this besides checking to make sure no one's tampered with the surge protectors or going wireless? Are surge protectors a real safeguard?

I would recommend Mozy for backing up your computer but the jury is still out. My experience is that the backup takes FOREVER.

I have four CyberPower 1500 UPS's in my house. One for my home theater, two for my computers and one for my accessories like routers, switches, cable modems, etc etc. You should invest in a UPS.

As for Mozy, yes it is slow. Memopal is much faster, and you can tell it specifically to queue up files like mp3's last so that important documents and such get sent faster. A fast upstream will be required if you have a lot of data but really it's a set and forget type of thing, even if it takes 3-4 weeks to get your data to their server, once there, incremental updates should be near instant.

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Probably the best surge protector you can have is to install a surge protector with a ground on your house. You can have this installed through your electric company or have a electrician come out to install. Definitely worth the money.

If an electrician does the job you'll pay for his time plus the parts. If the electric company does the job then they'll probably install it for free and charge you a monthly fee of something like $5 a month.

If you are in an area that has allot of lightening strikes then you might consider having a ground array installed with the surge protector.

-Rich

fyi - All houses should already have a ground. Maybe there's an issue with the ground on your house. I'm not sure but I think the electric company can come and check it for free.

Also, speaking from experience about 15 years ago, your homeowners insurance will probably cover the replacement/repair cost to your damaged equipment.

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Hi guys,

If you live in an area where there is frequent lightning strikes ( here where I live in Florida -
alot!), you might want to look into replacing that $ 25-00 surge protector you bought at the
local hardware shop. Check this out https://zerosurge.com/ I know it seems expensive ( 2pt of profit) but well worth it.

It lets through no surge. Read up about the details of
how their product works compared to the usual sure protectors. Take it from a high voltage
electrical engineer - if you can afford it this might just be the way to go to get rid of surges.
I know I am getting one.....

my five and a half cents

Take care
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Hi deltason, check out these UPS's.

Newegg.com - CyberPower Intelligent LCD Series GreenPower UPS CP1500AVRLCD 1500VA 900W 8 Outlets UPS - UPS

Newegg.com - APC BR1500LCD 1500VA 865 Watts 8 Outlets BACK-UPS RS - UPS

UPS = Uninterruptible Power Supply

Whenever you have power glitches or outages it will allow your PC to continue running without shutting down. So when you have your PC, Monitor, Router, Cable Modem running through the UPS, you should never be disconnected from the internet if you lose power.

One thing that you need to be sure of is the wattage of your power supply. These are rated kinda high so if you have a 450 watt power supply then these will double your up time.

Plus if you noticed under specifications of the above UPS's that all outlets are surge protected.

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Wow, a subject near and dear to my heart. Let me try and give a complete answer.

First as background: I have 3 systems, 2 desktops, and a gaming level laptop. All three are configured to run all the same software. Aside from trading, I also have a home business, I run on these machines. It's a service business with 7 employees. I also am treasurer of my church which is also a fairly major undertaking. Since I use no paper, data safety is vital, as is keeping everything up and running.

As way of additional background, I do software beta testing, on security software, as well as disk imaging software. I am a moderater on a major security forrum and as time permits, test my security setup against real malware.

1. Power: I also run the zerosurge surge protectors and APC Backup-UPS RS 1500 UPS. I have one for each desktop, and the laptop on a third.

2. Security. I've long since abandoned AntiVirus and Antispyware solutions. The bog the system down, and the false positives can be as bad as malware. My Solution: First a program called Sandboxie. All my internet facing programs, namely browsers and and Outlook are run sandboxed. Sandboxie, allows me to specify what can run in the sandbox, what can access the internet, and also block off access to critical portions of the disk. This allows me the freedom to be able to open any attachments from clients, without worrying about harm to my systems. I additionally run Online Armor Firewall and HIPS(Host Intrustion Protection System). A Hips keeps programs that aren't authorized from running from doing so. Finally I run another HIPS Malware Defender as a backup. I have tested this setup, against some nasty malware, and it protects the system very well. Note I go well beyone this setup when I am playing with malware.

3. Backup. Much redundancy here. My setup is designed so I can shutdown on machine A at night and startup on machine B in the morning. This alone has saved my bacon.

a) I image the system with a program called Shadowprotect by storage craft. This allows restoring to a brand new disk if necessary. This program also has a nifty feature that allows taking Incremental images as often as every 15 minutes, and then at the end of the day making a single daily incremental. Impact on the system is zero. Thus I can recover thru out the day.

b) I use a program AJCSoftware's Active Dircsync. I use this to sync the data from one machine to another via two external drives. Keeps the data the same and also the copy on the external drives serves as backup. I do this daily.

c) I also run Outback Plus. I use this as another intra day data backup, as it can backup up specified files including Outlook even when it's open. Also it saves all the outlook settings, and could go to another machine and completely setup Outlook.

d) Finally I also run another AJCSoftware program, Active backup. What it does is with files and directories I save, if I say save a spreadsheet, or exit excel, it makes an archive of the spreadsheet. It keeps as many as I specify, so if I need, I can go back and look at earlier versions of the file. This also has save my bacon on many occasions.

That about covers it.

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Sounds like that message itself is just malware/trojan to begin with. There is no such real Windows warning message to do with being "compromised" and unlikely McAfee would need to download anything to "fix" something. McAfee should quarantine and prevent the application from running, it wouldn't need to download something to do that.

Run Malware Bytes to do a malware scan:
Malwarebytes.org

I can't stand McAfee or Norton, so if it were me, I would uninstall that and install something else. I use NOD32 personally.

Also, make sure you don't use Internet Explorer. You need to use FireFox and keep it up-to-date with security patches (it will prompt to do so automatically).

Last, I moved this to Off Topic.

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I just loaded Firefox 3.5. Is Malwarebytes compatable with any browser?

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Malwarebyes isn't related to any browser. Firefox is just a much safer browser then IE.

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One more question,

Is Malwarebyes a onetime purchase or is it a time limited subscription?

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One more question,

Is Malwarebyes a onetime purchase or is it a time limited subscription?

Thanks,

RJay

Hi Rjay

If you only wanted to scan you can use the free version. The site doesn't say, about time limited, but it's $24.95 which is very reasonable.

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Micro$hit has a free anti-virus/anti-everything package that runs smooth and doesn't interfere with communications software like other anti-virus.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=532428

This is a good anti-virus package as it still recognizes malicious code even after it has been obfuscated. I tested this against 25 other packages and it really outperforms. They have some great developers at Micro$hit.

Recently, I decided to ditch Windows completely and move over to Ubuntu 10.04. This linux platform is rock solid, naturally secure and extremely fast. It takes some getting used to, but I won't be returning to Windows anytime soon.

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Any comments on AVG Ant-virus? It was included with my new PC, but I haven't installed yet.

I think Avast, Avira, & AVG are all fine for free anti-virus. Nod32 is the best if you want to pay for it every year. I personally don't think it's worth the extra $, I have it on my main desktop but all others including family and notebook I use AVG free version.

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I use AVG Free and that's it, besides window's protection stuff. Works fine, no problems.

Honestly, if you keep your pc up to date with windows updates and don't download stupid stuff, then you should be all good.

and ccleaner is good to clean up stuff, like your registry and history stuff.

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2. Security. I've long since abandoned AntiVirus and Antispyware solutions. The bog the system down, and the false positives can be as bad as malware. My Solution: First a program called Sandboxie. All my internet facing programs, namely browsers and and Outlook are run sandboxed. Sandboxie, allows me to specify what can run in the sandbox, what can access the internet, and also block off access to critical portions of the disk. This allows me the freedom to be able to open any attachments from clients, without worrying about harm to my systems. I additionally run Online Armor Firewall and HIPS(Host Intrustion Protection System). A Hips keeps programs that aren't authorized from running from doing so. Finally I run another HIPS Malware Defender as a backup. I have tested this setup, against some nasty malware, and it protects the system very well. Note I go well beyone this setup when I am playing with malware.

+1 ; this comment did not get the attention that it deserve so I'm highlighting it again.

One sandbox for NinjaTrader, one for TWS, one for Amibroker, one for OptionsOracle, one for uTorrent (hehe); Sandboxie container folders are on D:\ drive so just take backup of those folders and you are all set.

Machine runs basic Windows XP + MS Office + Java + .NET framework & utilities like Notapad++, WinRAR, PowerDVD etc on C:\ which is protected by GHOST & TrueImage. I refresh them every 2-3 months.

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I only do online banking with a live linux cd on a computer with the hard drive disconected. Mint is a good distro. Comes with java and flash.

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My computer is 100% secure ... I disconnected it from the internet...

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lol...seriously. Might be the best way to go.

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My computer is 100% secure ... I disconnected it from the internet...

Unfortunately, even that way it isn't 100% secure. To achieve that you have to unplug the 'puter after disconnecting from the internet.

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I've done IT work for several years now, and do it now while I learn the Futures game. Started out fixing basic network connections and worked my way up to managing a SQL server writing custom code. Best decision I have EVER made about my home computer protection system/programs was to get a solid router and a Mac.

I've had several PC's over the years, my wife has one, and every single one has had problems, failures, needed reinstalls, new hard drives, network cards, USB drivers, etc., etc., etc. I bought a Mac mini 5 years ago as I already had a monitor, speakers, keyboard, and mouse and it has probably been my best purchase just about ever, until I buy the elite subscription for futures.io (formerly BMT), methinks. It is old now and needs more memory but that is simple and a necessary upgrade due to the expansion of flash and RAM requirements as we now use that for our entertainment system. We ditched typical TV and when we do watch TV, we stream/DL everything and with the exception of Hulu, everything is without commercials.

MS Security Essentials is a great tool. Used it many times for clients computers and was surprised at how well it worked.

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I gave up on free anti-virus software last year. For generic protection
I would recommend what I now use. Kaspersky Internet Security 2010
(of course the 2011 version is now available).

Seems to offer reasonable protection on-line as well as the ability to
remove viruses and such.

Others with more computer experience have commented on this subject,
so I would listen to them for optimum protection of your data and other
valuable stuff. Kaspersky seems just fine for general, average, day to day
stuff. At least it can be used until one finds the very very best protection.

Kaspersky Internet Security Software | Kaspersky Lab United States

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My Story!!!

I thought my computer was safe.

I have had McAfee's Full protection suite on my computer since its purchase 5 years ago.

While monitoring an NT program this week, my computer suddenly shutdown, rebooted twice, then my external drive began chattering.

I knew I was in trouble. I yanked the data cable off the back of the external drive.

I then got a popup warning my computer had been compromised and that it would download the fix.

A down load window opened on its own and began importing data.

I killed the download. 10 seconds later it repeated. I killed it again. After 4 or 5 times, I removed the internet cable from the back of my computer.

The trojan program sat on my screen in a download loop waiting for its download to finish.

I ran McAfee's full scan and it detected NO PROBLEMS !!!!

I made a few calls and was told I needed to run spyware on my PC.

I had to stop the Trojan before I could do anything else.

I opened the task manager and selected processes.

I slid my mouse repeatedly over the trojan popup.

The trojan began nipping bits of CPU time and I spotted it. (Bravidx.exe)

I selected it and clicked end task. The trojan program disappeared off my computer screen.

I reconnected the internet cable and everything remained quiet.

I got online and I wasn't in the mood to do comparison shopping.

I selected and downloaded STOPzilla. I ran it on my computer over and over again.

Each time it found more problems. Euck !!!!

The fourth time, it ran clean. Total problems found and removed = 262 !!!!

Deleted all my old backups, made new ones.

RJay

Install Microsoft Security Essentials, that fights Virus ans Spy ' All in one ' - and you will not have all
all these problems anymore. It's simple and secure and sucks not so many resources of your system.
I use it myself since some month an I'm happy with it.
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My system has almost all new guts now and also Windoze 7 for the first time. After much research I also decided (I hate to admit) to use MSE and the built in firewall. Currently these work as well as any other and don't consume much resources.

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One thing about MSSE (Microsoft Security Essentials) is that you will want to add exclusions to MSSE for MSSE itself. For some reason on some computers, MSSE gets stuck in a loop scanning itself. Every time it scans itself the contents change, therefore it must scan itself again. repeat ad infinitum.
My wife had horrible performance issues on her home PC. MSSE seemed to be the culprit. I added the exclusions & VOILA!... fixed!
Now I've never had an issue with my laptop, but I added the exclusions anyway.
Do a Google search for detailed instructions on how to do it. There are two exclusions you need to add: one for the process and and another for the executable location.

MSSE, combined with an aggressive HOSTS file, and I've never had a virus or trojan (knock on wood). I don't run any other antivirus. I do Spybot S&D, CCcleaner and Malwarebytes scans a couple of times a year and they always come up clean.
If you really want to make your PC secure, visit this site: https://winhelp2002.mvps.org/hosts.htm
There are about a dozen different pages that you can select from the dropdown, each dealing with a different aspect of Windows security.

Also, I use Firefox with the NoScript plugin. It's annoying at first until you get all the exclusions for your regular sites added, but it's sickening to see just how many scripts and processes that it halts. Most are harmless advertising, but a few are malicious.

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I also recommend MSE. Back when I was using ninjatrader I had lots of problems with other apps like Trend Micro or Avast or Kaspersky and NOD. No problems with MSE.

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looks like you should be using kaspersky...it's smarter trust me.

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Micro$hit has a free anti-virus/anti-everything package that runs smooth and doesn't interfere with communications software like other anti-virus.

https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/p/?linkid=532428

This is a good anti-virus package as it still recognizes malicious code even after it has been obfuscated. I tested this against 25 other packages and it really outperforms. They have some great developers at Micro$hit.

Recently, I decided to ditch Windows completely and move over to Ubuntu 10.04. This linux platform is rock solid, naturally secure and extremely fast. It takes some getting used to, but I won't be returning to Windows anytime soon.

Something to think about.

I have now been running Microsoft Security Essentials for a couple of months, and I am not convinced. It takes several minutes scanning when I start my notebook and it uses a lot of permanent resources, about 160 k of RAM - this is similar to NinjaTrader 7. from time to time it creates a high CPU load, when it starts running in the background.

The update today did not work, but crashed the PC. It is now up and running again, but I do not know whether the install process has been completed properly.

I am thinking about uninstalling it, as things were simpler before I had it. My other antivirus kit only takes half the resources and a fraction of the time for scanning, unless I do a full scan.

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I have now been running Microsoft Security Essentials for a couple of months, and I am not convinced. It takes several minutes scanning when I start my notebook and it uses a lot of permanent resources, about 160 k of RAM - this is similar to NinjaTrader 7. from time to time it creates a high CPU load, when it starts running in the background.

The update today did not work, but crashed the PC. It is now up and running again, but I do not know whether the install process has been completed properly.

I am thinking about uninstalling it, as things were simpler before I had it. My other antivirus kit only takes half the resources and a fraction of the time for scanning, unless I do a full scan.

It's true it uses a bit of ram, but other than that i have no problem, it takes less cpu resouces, and the quick scan is more fast then others.

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It's true it uses a bit of ram, but other than that i have no problem, it takes less cpu resouces, and the quick scan is more fast then others.

The quick scan is indeed fast, because it only scans a few files. The installation worked now, do not know, why the update did not work the first time, as I had stopped all other programs that might interfere. The problem is the RAM usage, along with the periods, when it is scanning something in the background.

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I have now been running Microsoft Security Essentials for a couple of months, and I am not convinced. It takes several minutes scanning when I start my notebook and it uses a lot of permanent resources, about 160 k of RAM - this is similar to NinjaTrader 7. from time to time it creates a high CPU load, when it starts running in the background.

The update today did not work, but crashed the PC. It is now up and running again, but I do not know whether the install process has been completed properly.

I am thinking about uninstalling it, as things were simpler before I had it. My other antivirus kit only takes half the resources and a fraction of the time for scanning, unless I do a full scan.

Have you added the exclusions that I listed above? It fixed the resource problems I had once I did.
Personally, I have my BIOS set to boot the PC for me before I wake up in the morning. This allows all the background tasks to complete before I ever even launch NT. I've made it a habit to have everything up and running at least an hour before I start trading. Then I make an arbitrary sim trade to make sure everything is functioning and no errors before i go live. Nothing like an error message from NT on your first trade of the day to unbalance you for the rest of the session.

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Have you added the exclusions that I listed above? It fixed the resource problems I had once I did.
Personally, I have my BIOS set to boot the PC for me before I wake up in the morning. This allows all the background tasks to complete before I ever even launch NT. I've made it a habit to have everything up and running at least an hour before I start trading. Then I make an arbitrary sim trade to make sure everything is functioning and no errors before i go live. Nothing like an error message from NT on your first trade of the day to unbalance you for the rest of the session.

That is a possible explanation for the trouble I experienced. By the way, no problems with my XP machine, but only with the laptop of my wife, which runs on Vista.

However, I will not add exclusions to any scanner that gets involved by scanning itself ad infinitum. I just feel that the program might better continue to scan itself on other machines, but not on mine.

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I should have never tempted fate by posting in this thread. That was bad juju.
The very night I bragged about never having caught a virus, both of my external 1TB RAID drives went "tango-uniform". So far all my attempts at recovering any of the data have been fruitless. I searched like a madman for any viruses, worms, malware, spyware, bots, crapware or betrayware but came up clean. It seems so unlikely that both drives would crash at the same time, but that's the way Murphy's law operates. So much for redundancy, eh?

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There is no better protection than "sandboxie" & "portable apps". Try it, you'll know it.

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There is no better protection than "sandboxie" & "portable apps". Try it, you'll know it.

Amen about sandboxie. I don't use portable apps, but from the testing I've done with Sandboxie it's amazing.

If your email clients, and browsers are sandboxed, you can click to your hearts content, and be safe. You can set sandboxes, to limit what can run in the sandbox, and what can access the internet from the sandbox. You can also block sandboxed programs from accessing your private data.

The only thing to be aware, should you download a virus, and should it run, your system will appear to be infected. BUT, difference is you can reboot, and then instead of an infected machine, you have a clean machine. Deleting the sandbox gets rid of all the nasty stuff.

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3rd vote for sandboxie... great piece of software.

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Anybody thinks a lot about ' What's the best protection - programm for my computer ? '

To be able to checkout ' Who is who ? ' ' Who is where ? ' please visit the page below to see a really qualified, objective and ( I hope ) independant test result regarding all Antivir / - spy - Programms / combinations of both.

Hope this ranking - list is helpfull for all of you.
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Anybody thinks a lot about ' What's the best protection - programm for my computer ? '

To be able to checkout ' Who is who ? ' ' Who is where ? ' please visit the page below to see a really qualified, objective and ( I hope ) independant test result regarding all Antivir / - spy - Programms / combinations of both.
Hope this ranking - list is helpfull for all of you.
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The only problem with the results shown is that they refer to a test made with Ubuntu Linux.

Most of the users here have Windows OS. It would be more interesting to see the results for Windows XP or Windows 7.

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The only problem with the results shown is that they refer to a test made with Ubuntu Linux.

Most of the users here have Windows OS. It would be more interesting to see the results for Windows XP or Windows 7.

Yes, you are right, Fat Tails : I have mailed them to ask for an archieved test result regarding XP.
However. The next new test - result published in near future regarding XP will be available in April 2011.

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Yes, you are right, Fat Tails : I have mailed them to ask for an archieved test result regarding XP.
However. The next new test - result published in near future regarding XP will be available in April 2011.

I have noticed that the next test for Windows will be available soon, you had just published the results a bit early.

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Amen about sandboxie. I don't use portable apps, but from the testing I've done with Sandboxie it's amazing.

If your email clients, and browsers are sandboxed, you can click to your hearts content, and be safe. You can set sandboxes, to limit what can run in the sandbox, and what can access the internet from the sandbox. You can also block sandboxed programs from accessing your private data.

The only thing to be aware, should you download a virus, and should it run, your system will appear to be infected. BUT, difference is you can reboot, and then instead of an infected machine, you have a clean machine. Deleting the sandbox gets rid of all the nasty stuff.

Pete

just wanted to say thank you for bringing up that sandbox stuff. really like it.

could not believe it cost only $42 for a lifetime license. certainly worth it imho

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just wanted to say thank you for bringing up that sandbox stuff. really like it.

could not believe it cost only $42 for a lifetime license. certainly worth it imho

Glad I could help. Sandboxie, is truly an amazing piece of software

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Glad I could help. Sandboxie, is truly an amazing piece of software

Pete

I use it as well. Thanks again for the hint.

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I had been using Avira for virus protection and was happy with the results. But recently with Aira working I got hit with a virus whose first step was to disable Antivir and I couldn't get rid of it. I downloaded a free version of MalwareBytes , rebooted in safe mode and ran it. MalwareBytes killed the virus. I bought a licensed copy.

After reading this thread, I'm going to look at sandboxie as well.

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I had been using Avira for virus protection and was happy with the results. But recently with Aira working I got hit with a virus whose first step was to disable Antivir and I couldn't get rid of it. I downloaded a free version of MalwareBytes , rebooted in safe mode and ran it. MalwareBytes killed the virus. I bought a licensed copy.

After reading this thread, I'm going to look at sandboxie as well.

You should use Sandboxie, if you download something from BigMike's that was uploaded by TMFT. Will protect you against your own virus.

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You should use Sandboxie, if you download something from BigMike's that was uploaded by TMFT. Will protect you against your own virus.

Couldn't help laughing at this, but it indeed true.

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I had been using Avira for virus protection and was happy with the results. But recently with Aira working I got hit with a virus whose first step was to disable Antivir and I couldn't get rid of it. I downloaded a free version of MalwareBytes , rebooted in safe mode and ran it. MalwareBytes killed the virus. I bought a licensed copy.

After reading this thread, I'm going to look at sandboxie as well.

That Man, you never can use Avira as Standalone - Solution. My machine was hit by severe viruses years ago like your machine. I checked out, what's happend and was faced by something I couldn't believe first : You can use Avira either as professional version ( combination of virus and spy protection in one programm ) or you have to run SpyBot Search & Destroy parallel to the Avira free version, other- vice your machine will be hit by malware. These two programms are adjustable so, that they will not use to much resources of your machine, othervice there are two programms running parallel to your chart / trading programms, the machine has to manage them at the same time anyway.
Avira prof. othervice scanns all the data of your trading programms all time and you can n o t adjust it to stop that. So Avira prof. is not the programm recommended for use running parallel with chart / trading programms.
I personnally use Microsoft Security Essentials, covering Virus and Spy and I'm happy with it.
At last please have a look to the threat ' How protected is your computer ? ' next days, I will publish the latest test - results of all programms available along with a graphic showing the ranking of them all.
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Mike,

I just loaded Firefox 3.5. Is Malwarebytes compatable with any browser?

The newest version available is Firefox 4.0, several instances are improved on this version and it should be compatable with nearly any anti - malware programm. 4.0 is a lot faster compared to the 3.5 / 6 versions.
It is not necassary to uninstall 3.5 / 6 before installing 4.0, Mozilla automaticly upgrades your current version.
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