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I'm one of those guys with just a single monitor computer.

I'd like to add one or two more.

Do I buy a new video card?

Has anyone tried one of those USB adaptors to add a monitor?

Will video speed be a problem with the USB Adaptor?

I have a Dell XPS400 computer. NVIDIA GeForce 7300 LE 256MB video card.

Any thoughts will be appreciated,

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hi Rjay,
i like those Matrox cards if you dont need a high-performance 3D-videocard for gaming.
you can have them for PCI-e or PCI - slots and you can add multiple of them.
and they are professional industrie-standard.

Matrox Graphics - Products - Graphics Cards - P-Series - P690 PCI
Matrox Graphics - Products - Graphics Cards - P-Series - P690 Plus LP PCI

they have NO fans/no noice + Ultra low power consumption: 10.7 watts - ideal for 24/7 systems.
i have not tried something with USB yet - but this should be also OK.
USB-conectors are also used for high-quality external audio+midi-interfaces - so the speed shoudlnt be a problem for charting.

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Nearly every PCI Express video card made has dual DVI connections and will support two monitors. If you want three or four monitors, buy two of the same cards. Five or six monitors, buy three cards. Disable any on-board video if you have it, and make sure you have an available PCI Express x8 or x16 slot in your computer.

You can get two cheap 9500GT's (is what I have) for like $50-60 each. Or if you just need two monitors just buy one.

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Don't you have two connectors on an XPS 400, 1 DVI and 1 VGA ?
If yes, you just need another monitor, that's all...
I didn't try usb video card, I have something like Mike's configuration, 2 old & cheap dual DVI card, 7800GT.
But on a Dell XPS, you can't do that, just 1 pcie x 16 I think.

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My current monitor is a Dell 2007FP 20" ultra sharp digital flat screen.

My first step to a multiple monitor system is to buy two more identical monitors off of ebay. They are new, unopened, originally purchased from Dell.

These monitors were 40% discount off of Dell's list price.

They should arrive next week.

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My two new Dell 2007FP screens arrived this week.

Big Mike, you were right, my video card supports two monitors.

I now have two screens up and running.

My computer only has 1 PCIe16 slot. My original video card is in this slot. This limits my options.

I now need either a USB to monitor interface, or a compatable video card for a standard PCI interface to crank up the third screen.

Since all NVIDIA video cards use the same software, I ordered the NVIDIA PCI GeForce 4000 DVI video card off Ebay for $27.00 US. shipping included.

So far, so good!!!

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30 inch monitor will require 2 dvi ports.
Before you buy research the panel type of the monitor its either IPS, PVA, MVA or TN.
I recommend getting a matted screen with either IPS, PVA, MVA panel.

I also don't like integrated graphic cards. It doesn't seem to display the text clear and crisp for some reason.

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30 inch monitor will require 2 dvi ports.

why do you think this?

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i'm running two 30 in monitors each on their own single DVI ports

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I just realized this was in General. Moved to off-topic.

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Whoooo!!!! Hooooo!!!!

Three monitor setup is complete!!!

Had a couple of scares today.

Make darn sure if you do this you download the latest video drivers first.

if you install new video cards, down load their latest drivers before agreeing to a system reboot.

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here is a simple solution to a 3 monitor problem if you dont want to buy a new video card or if your using a laptop...sharky
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why do you think this?

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Sorry for the higher resolution 30 inch monitor 2560x1600 you'll need dual dvi.

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here is a simple solution to a 3 monitor problem if you dont want to buy a new video card or if your using a laptop...sharky
Tritton Offers Two External Video Cards at Best Buy

Hi Sharky,

I was at Best Buy last week looking at them. I wasn't sure if they were the right choice so I went with more of what was already working on my computer.

Also, $85.00 vs $ 27.00

Thanks for the input, it will help others make informed decisions.

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check this out for a laptop...sharky
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Sorry for the higher resolution 30 inch monitor 2560x1600 you'll need dual dvi.

You mean dual-link DVI (its still a single cable)

I have a 30" for my music workstation but my trading setup is on 3 24"

Really I wish I could get 4 or 5 nice non-widescreen 20" but they are hard to come by these days. Widescreens in portrait mode would be good too if the bezels could come off =)

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How many screens does most people use for trading? I have heard recommended is 2 big screen preferably 22 inch or larger but anything more than 2 can be distracting particularly if you are trading from your home in an average size room.

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How many screens does most people use for trading? I have heard recommended is 2 big screen preferably 22 inch or larger but anything more than 2 can be distracting particularly if you are trading from your home in an average size room.

Most people - probably 1.

I have six 24" monitors personally. It depends on your personality, how much you multitask, and your trading style.

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How many screens does most people use for trading? I have heard recommended is 2 big screen preferably 22 inch or larger but anything more than 2 can be distracting particularly if you are trading from your home in an average size room.

2 is definitely a good starting point, especially while learning, some would say for all time.

For most of us its the same issue as with the Idiot Lantern (TV) - they can often be more informative (i.e. less destructive to intuition) when switched off rather than when switched on, its all about quality of information rather than quantity.

I use 5, split across 2 computers (its a Fibonacci thing.)

Seriously though, more important is to factor in 2 years of learning for each monitor you add..., this worked for me, I had to throw 2 away so that I could get the profitability event horizon back into this decade

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How many screens does most people use for trading? I have heard recommended is 2 big screen preferably 22 inch or larger but anything more than 2 can be distracting particularly if you are trading from your home in an average size room.

I have three but most of the time (95% of the time) I only use two of them. Having more monitors is great, but there is something to be said for simplicity. Most markets can just be monitored from a quote board and from there you can pull up anything else you want (charts, DOM, order ticket, time and sales). Having extra monitors only improves your profits if you actually HAVE profits.

That being said I have always thought this set up with a larger central monitor and two smallers wing monitors in portrait was really cool.

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check this out for a laptop...sharky
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IBM laptops had this out over 8 years ago,

now that they're Lenovo, however long ago that was, it was that long ago,

not worth bringing back, as most laptops on the Core i chip sets have a robust enough video card that supports a 2nd monitor that can be spanned, shared or duplicated (not that there's any value in duplicated)

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How many screens does most people use for trading? I have heard recommended is 2 big screen preferably 22 inch or larger but anything more than 2 can be distracting particularly if you are trading from your home in an average size room.

@rahman9951:

I'm using only two 24" monitors with four charts each for trading as I focus on a maximum of two instruments at a time.
I trade CL until the cash market closes and then concentrate on NQ and (sometimes) TF.

That's more than enough to focus on since you should learn all you can get about your favourite markets, and any additional instrument or information would distract me too much from my trading.

Just my $0.02...

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I need my 3 monitors, all for trading 1 market. Entry chart, footprint, and DOM on left; Structure and Profile charts on right; cash equity markets, TICK, long term picture, and orders/fills/position info on top. I have tried to eliminate some of these but honestly I use all of these at some point during every day; and the stuff I reference less is even hidden behind other windows, so ideally I'd like to have one or two more so I wouldn't have to switch.

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I need my 3 monitors, all for trading 1 market. Entry chart, footprint, and DOM on left; Structure and Profile charts on right; cash equity markets, TICK, long term picture, and orders/fills/position info on top. I have tried to eliminate some of these but honestly I use all of these at some point during every day; and the stuff I reference less is even hidden behind other windows, so ideally I'd like to have one or two more so I wouldn't have to switch.

Considering how inexpensive monitors/video cards are, to me it's a no brainer decision so I can watch multiple markets while also having room for my DOM's, email and web. I spend my day between charts, email, and web so can't imagine having anything minimized or hidden from view.

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Considering how inexpensive monitors/video cards are, to me it's a no brainer decision so I can watch multiple markets while also having room for my DOM's, email and web. I spend my day between charts, email, and web so can't imagine having anything minimized or hidden from view.

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Considering how inexpensive monitors/video cards are, to me it's a no brainer decision so I can watch multiple markets while also having room for my DOM's, email and web. I spend my day between charts, email, and web so can't imagine having anything minimized or hidden from view.

Sure, but I think the available space in your room (and on your desk) will be the limit...

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I currently have 3 on a single Radeon with eyefinity. With your 6, do you run into problems locating a mouse and having to scroll horizontally 6 monitors to get from far left to right for example? Or do you have a super cool setup where you can move the mouse all around, up and down, left and right among the displays?

Here is my setup:



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I have six Dell U2412M's, three on top row, three on bottom row. I am currently using 2xFirePro 2460's which each have 4xMini-DisplayPort connectors and are passively cooled.

Yes, you can move windows/mouse all naturally from any location.

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Yes, you can move windows/mouse all naturally from any location.

Is this a function of your hardware, or is this a software solution available for various types of graphics cards?

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Is this a function of your hardware, or is this a software solution available for various types of graphics cards?

Part of Windows since Win 95 I think... the only special software I have is UltraMon, which just places a taskbar on each monitor instead of the primary monitor having 50 windows in the taskbar.

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Part of Windows since Win 95 I think...

Mike, I have not felt quite so stupid in a long time. I had no idea that I could configure like this:



The default is all 3 in a row like this:



For years I have been moving to the top by scrolling to the right, but now I can move the mouse up to get there. All I had to do was drag one on top in the settings and now it is a thing of beauty! Thank you!

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All I had to do was drag one on top in the settings and now it is a thing of beauty! Thank you!

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Awesome, that should help a lot! I expect at least a 20% ROR on this

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Hi,

I need to add another monitor for chart.

Got a Dell U2410. Since charts dont need a to be displayed on a high end monitor please recommend me a cheap 24".

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Hi,

I need to add another monitor for chart.

Got a Dell U2410. Since charts dont need a to be displayed on a high end monitor please recommend me a cheap 24".

Dell U2412M, purchased mine for under $300. You'll find many many people on the forum have them. It's basically the cheaper LED version of the U2410.

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Dell U2412M, purchased mine for under $300. You'll find many many people on the forum have them. It's basically the cheaper LED version of the U2410.

Mike

Yes wanted that but no longer listed by Dell in Malaysia.

Dont really matter what type of panel since chart display just basic color

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Yes wanted that but no longer listed by Dell in Malaysia

Yeah, I guess it's a couple years old so newer model by now. Maybe ebay.

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Yeah, I guess it's a couple years old so newer model by now. Maybe ebay.

Mike

The model I use still listed on the site.

Dont know about warranty when listed on ebay.

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The model I use still listed on the site.

Dont know about warranty when listed on ebay.

I just purchased 2 last month here.

Dell UltraSharp 24" Widescreen FlatPanel IPS LED HD Monitor U2412M - Best Buy

They arrived in unopened dell boxes, new with all the cabling.

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Yes wanted that but no longer listed by Dell in Malaysia.

Dont really matter what type of panel since chart display just basic color

Get a really cheap monitor, watch it every day for 6-10 hours, and then watch a nice display every day for the same amount of time, and you will see a difference. It has nothing to do with what is being displayed, be it a chart or complex graphics.

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Get a really cheap monitor, watch it every day for 6-10 hours, and then watch a nice display every day for the same amount of time, and you will see a difference. It has nothing to do with what is being displayed, be it a chart or complex graphics.

I remember someone advise me that you be looking at it a lot so get a good one and that is why I bought the U2410.

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