NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Computer power


Discussion in Tech Support

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one Big Mike with 9 posts (8 thanks)
    2. looks_two cory with 5 posts (6 thanks)
    3. looks_3 David_R with 3 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 eDanny with 3 posts (0 thanks)
      Best Posters
    1. looks_one Twiddle with 2 thanks per post
    2. looks_two cory with 1.2 thanks per post
    3. looks_3 Zoethecus with 1 thanks per post
    4. looks_4 Big Mike with 0.9 thanks per post
    1. trending_up 14,359 views
    2. thumb_up 19 thanks given
    3. group 14 followers
    1. forum 40 posts
    2. attach_file 3 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Computer power

  #31 (permalink)
 itrade2win 
New York
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: Sierra Charts, TOS
Trading: E-mini S&P 500
Posts: 751 since Aug 2010
Thanks Given: 447
Thanks Received: 437

Cool, thanks guys!!!

Reply With Quote

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
REcommedations for programming help
Sierra Chart
MC PL editor upgrade
MultiCharts
NT7 Indicator Script Troubleshooting - Camarilla Pivots
NinjaTrader
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
Cheap historycal L1 data for stocks
Stocks and ETFs
 
  #32 (permalink)
jtradr
Connecticut
 
Posts: 26 since Dec 2010
Thanks Given: 16
Thanks Received: 27

I'm resurrecting this thread to ask a comp power question rather than starting a new thread. Not sure if anyone will read it.

Anyway. I am deciding between 4 core processor and 6 core. I know I am going to get the answer that it won't matter but specifically I am wondering if anyone has experience or opinions on how more cores would handle range charts during intense moments of volume/volatility. I know that range charts are far more computationally taxing on the system and I would like to add more range charts to my layout but I have a single core now and it is totally maxed out with 3 range charts and 9 time charts.

I use a lot of charts because I like to watch correlations and money flows from market to market therefore I have NQ, ES, DAX, Euro, Yen, Oil, Gold, 30yr, 10 yr, etc etc etc all running at once.

Anyone have a thought as to whether the extra two cores will improve system performance AND perhaps more importantly will NinjaTrader 7 even use all the cores to begin with?

Thanks all-

Reply With Quote
  #33 (permalink)
 Twiddle 
Sydney, Australia
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Ninjatrader
Broker: Mirus
Trading: FDAX
Posts: 139 since May 2010
Thanks Given: 150
Thanks Received: 94


Hi Jtradr,

NT 7 is multithreaded and does use the multiple cores available. If you are doing some extensive backtesting each core you have really speeds things up.

However for displaying multiple charts/windows etc, a 4 core or even 2 core processor would probably do fine and RAM would really be more important in that instance. Get lots of good, fast RAM.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #34 (permalink)
 Turning Point 
USA
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: NT, TOS
Posts: 65 since Aug 2009
Thanks Given: 10
Thanks Received: 44


Twiddle View Post
Hi Jtradr,

NT 7 is multithreaded and does use the multiple cores available. If you are doing some extensive backtesting each core you have really speeds things up.

However for displaying multiple charts/windows etc, a 4 core or even 2 core processor would probably do fine and RAM would really be more important in that instance. Get lots of good, fast RAM.

+1 on this. I bought at i7 930 on the cheap. I've converted most of my stuff to NT 7. From what I see, NT7 won't use the hyperthreaded cores but hits the 4 main cores consistently in backtesting/optimizations. Not sure if anyone can confirm the lack of hyperthreading?

I turned hyperthreading off and have the 4 normal cores running at 4.2Ghz stable....but the key was matching this with very quick RAM. I think 4 cores is fine...you'll need as much RAM as you can get. DDR3 is pretty cheap these days. If you go Intel the i7's are Tri-Core. AMD is dual i believe.

I would strongly encourage you to get a reallly good power supply too with good Amps.

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #35 (permalink)
jtradr
Connecticut
 
Posts: 26 since Dec 2010
Thanks Given: 16
Thanks Received: 27

Thanks for the advice. Based on it and other posts on here I've decided to scale back the comp to something less expensive.

Thinking an AMD Phenom II X4 3.2GHz
Power supply is 550w
memory is 8gb ddr3 1600
HD is 640gm 6.0 sata 7200rpm
video cards I'm not sure about maybe radeon 4550 512mb x 2

this is scaled back from a 6 core with a SSD, same ram and 2 1gb radeons

Any thoughts on this set up?

Is it enough ram? is the SSD worth the money? or is a fast 6.0gb/s sata hd enough? Power supply is only 550w is that enough?

Reply With Quote
  #36 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,465 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,242
Thanks Received: 101,665

It's plenty for a trading box. I would focus on quality PSU (not necessarily more wattage), focus on quiet or near silent PSU and GPU, an aftermarket CPU heatsink+fan (again for quietness).

An SSD will make your charting application load faster, but once it's loaded will make zero difference really. Personally I would rather see you save your money and either buy a 800W UPS (CyberPower for instance) or get an external 1TB backup drive so you can backup your system nightly or weekly --- both of those are better investments than an SSD in my opinion, for a trading machine.

Mike



Join the free Markets Chat beta: one platform, all the trade rooms!

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Reply With Quote
Thanked by:
  #37 (permalink)
 
eDanny's Avatar
 eDanny 
East Rochester, NY
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Posts: 329 since Jul 2009
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 425

The Phenom II X4 955 Black is nice, I have one clocked at 4 GHz no problem. Seems plenty fast for a trading machine.

Dan


jtradr View Post
Thanks for the advice. Based on it and other posts on here I've decided to scale back the comp to something less expensive.

Thinking an AMD Phenom II X4 3.2GHz
Power supply is 550w
memory is 8gb ddr3 1600
HD is 640gm 6.0 sata 7200rpm
video cards I'm not sure about maybe radeon 4550 512mb x 2

this is scaled back from a 6 core with a SSD, same ram and 2 1gb radeons

Any thoughts on this set up?

Is it enough ram? is the SSD worth the money? or is a fast 6.0gb/s sata hd enough? Power supply is only 550w is that enough?


Reply With Quote
  #38 (permalink)
 
torroray's Avatar
 torroray 
Malaysia
 
Experience: Beginner
Platform: Multichart DT
Broker: MB Trading
Trading: Fx
Posts: 272 since Nov 2009
Thanks Given: 52
Thanks Received: 61


eDanny View Post
The Phenom II X4 955 Black is nice, I have one clocked at 4 GHz no problem. Seems plenty fast for a trading machine.

Dan

Can you show me how to OC it. O havethe same cpu.

Reply With Quote
  #39 (permalink)
 
eDanny's Avatar
 eDanny 
East Rochester, NY
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Posts: 329 since Jul 2009
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 425

With a Black edition CPU the multiplier is unlocked so you can OC by just increasing the multiplier. You need a bios that allows that though but it is common in machines that aren't bought in stores. The motherboard I have is here. BTW I put together a i7 Sandy Bridge machine for my neighbor and the motherboard was $100 more, some of the SATA ports were still SATA II and not all of the PCIe video slots were full speed. I don't think that machine would be any better for trading either.

Dan

Reply With Quote
  #40 (permalink)
 
eDanny's Avatar
 eDanny 
East Rochester, NY
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: NT
Posts: 329 since Jul 2009
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 425



Big Mike View Post
It's plenty for a trading box. I would focus on quality PSU (not necessarily more wattage), focus on quiet or near silent PSU and GPU, an aftermarket CPU heatsink+fan (again for quietness).

An SSD will make your charting application load faster, but once it's loaded will make zero difference really. Personally I would rather see you save your money and either buy a 800W UPS (CyberPower for instance) or get an external 1TB backup drive so you can backup your system nightly or weekly --- both of those are better investments than an SSD in my opinion, for a trading machine.

Mike

I semi agree here but I would never go without an SSD now. If I have to restart NT in the trading day the last thing I want is to wait for it to start up and get the charts going. Heaven forbid the computer need rebooting too. With a SSD the boot time can be 20 - 30 seconds. If I need to start Skype, start Outlook (normally slowww) or open a browser (slowww Firefox) there is no wait at all. To me these are important on my machine for my business.

Reply With Quote




Last Updated on February 17, 2011


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts