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WHICH CPU is BEST for NINJA TRADER 7 and 8 ?

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WHICH CPU is BEST for NINJA TRADER 7 and 8 ?

Gentlemen -- I have seen some new very very powerful CPUs coming out of Intel lately and some very fast AMD examples as well...

I was wondering if any of you guys have an idea of what would be the best CPU and RAM combo for running Ninja right now...

Does Ninja need ECC ram?

Does it work better with a Server Processor with a TON of L2 and L3 cache

~or~

Would a gaming processor with an ultra high clock speed be better like the i9-9900KF? You can get the i9-9900KF to a stable 5.2Ghz overclock now...

So yea what do you think? Are they over kill also?

Is Ninja 8 more >>> GPU DEPENDENT >>> than CPU dependent? I feel that could be the case sometimes...

Anybody that knows more about hardware I would love to know. Some people even think that new Intel CPUs are completely over rated. :O Is that so? Some people think they are not "worth it".

I want something that is very very durable and I wouldn't have to upgrade or mess with for years --- so I was looking at the XEON Processors. The added reliability sounds really good.

What do you guys think?

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I have this and it is a very good CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 2700X

If you want a very good CPU for $200, that is what I would recommend.

Even though this is way more than you need for trading, it will allow you to do a lot of other things at the same time without a performance impact on any task.

If you have deep pockets and want to have more CPU than you will ever fully use then get the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X, or wait for the Ryzen 9 3950X. The former is 12 core and latter is 16.

AMD Ryzen 7 2700X is 8 core and mine holds around 4GHz for most tasks.

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So >>> AMD is good now?

I remember back in the day AMD was just for gaming computers really...

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Amd really stepped their game up and made the sleeping giant shamefull.

Their newest are trully in some cases double the bang for our buck vs intels.

They really shook the cpu market.
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So >>> AMD is good now?

I remember back in the day AMD was just for gaming computers really...

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I JUST CHECKED the PASSMARK CPU Benchmarks...

and ALL the top PERFORMERS in SINGLE THREAD PERFORMANCE are AMD.. :O :O Whaaaaaat?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

When did this happen? haha I have been out of the loop for some years I guess! :O

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Is your current system so outdated and are you sure about/did you measure what's holding you back?

If e.g. your CPU is idling most of the time at the moment with NT running you will be severely disappointed
by any upgrade. If in contrast your normal CPU load is above 50% all of the time, it's probably time for a
change ...

If the problem is "only" powering up NT, there are several (potential) bottlenecks: CPU, speed of storage
(SSD, NVME) - and above all: real-time data line speed. (RAM normally isn't a problem, only too little of it,
because that induces unnecessary transfers to slower components.)

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Also, a mid range cpu of any modern kind will take care of charts and indicators easy.

16gb of ram is handy when you have lots of charts loaded. More is handy for multitasking. You dont want bottlenecks here with ram.

Gpu is something we can afford to go budget on. We are no gamers here so a low tier gpu is fine. Just make sure it takes care of your screens.

And indeed I highly agree with choke about the ssd drive. Its a must.

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I JUST CHECKED the PASSMARK CPU Benchmarks...

and ALL the top PERFORMERS in SINGLE THREAD PERFORMANCE are AMD.. :O :O Whaaaaaat?

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

When did this happen? haha I have been out of the loop for some years I guess! :O

This is a very deceiving graph. The I9 9900K is shown as clocking at 3.6GHz. You can hit 5GHz with those out of the box with the built in turbo boost. Overclocking isn't even needed anymore to get full performance out of a high end chip. The I9 9900k ($500) is what you want if single threaded performance is very important for you. However, it's going to be very close in performance to the $200 2700x 99% of the time. It's $300 more than the 2700x for 1 GHz faster clock speed. The thing is that 4GHz is already very fast. Most people getting the 9900k are gamers looking for an extra 15-20 fps over what they would get at 4GHz. 4GHz is plenty for gaming already though. 100-140 fps easy as long as you have at least 8 threads.

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Ok -- Awesome

I have an i7-8700K with 32GB of ram >>>> and just saw that it is using 15% max but mostly 6% CPU load with it running at 4.3Ghz >>> not idling

but I am using freaking 54% of RAM. :O What the F

Maybe all my Chrome and Firefox tabs...



Yea -- I don't think I would upgrade unless it is actually a real and noticeable difference.

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