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Trading laptop - Alienware or Falcon Trading Systems?

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@ALC77

I have three computers from Falcon, www.tradingcomputers.com ...... so maybe I'm biased ...but they have been nothing but incredible since my first purchase back in 2011. My last purchase came with lifetime tech support, but they do whatever I ask on my other two machines. Even once on a crappy HP!!!!

All I can say is call them. They are a small company and you can no problem speak to Scott the owner anytime. Everybody there is great, and I speak from experience. Honestly, I can't say enough about them, but you need to find out for yourself.

I like working with anybody there Brennen, Joshua, Jacob....Phil now works from California because he is a big-time diver, so he moved to be closer to the ocean. He is just sales and my least favorite if I'm forced to pick. I ask for Brennen the most. He's cool. Tells me he keeps breaking his finger climbing...lol.

They feel so much like family and I'm being very sincere when I say this. I can't imagine purchasing something so fundamental to my business from some big-ish company and just get some regular "Joe" on the phone.

These guys will gladly take care of any issue and I mean ANY whatever it might be down to the simplest of requests. And they stand behind every machine with ZERO funny business.

Ok I'm done....lol

Ron

I'll second these comments. I got two desktop PCs from Falcon a few years ago and they rock. I won't order from anyone else because I've had such a positive experience.

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This is a nice machine

Item Sku Qty Subtotal
Custom Built ASUS Zenbook Pro UX580GE-XB74T - 15.6" UHD Touch w/ ScreenPad - i9-8950HK - GTX 1050 Ti
Free Accessories
Asus Gamepad Controller
LCD Panel
15.6" 4K UHD (3840*2160), Glare, Ultra Slim 300nits, IPS Level WideView, Touch, NTSC:72% Display + ScreenPad™ - 5.5” FHD (1920 x 1080) Super IPS+ display
Display Calibration
Yes, display professionally calibrated w/ profile saved to USB drive - $50.00
Minimize LCD Backlight Bleed
Yes, quality check and give me a panel with minimal backlight bleed. - $100.00
Display Warranty
1 Year Zero Defective Pixel Warranty (perfect panel guarantee) - $85.00
Video Card
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti w/ 4GB GDDR5
Processor
Intel 8th Generation "Coffee Lake" Core i9-8950HK (2.9-4.8GHz) 6 Core - 12 Thread Processor, 12MB Smart Cache
Thermal Interface Materials
Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut on CPU + GPU, and Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads on heat sensitive surfaces – BEST PERFORMANCE – installed by HIDevolution - $95.00
Memory
ASUS Approved 16GB DDR4 2400MHz onboard memory
M.2 SATA or PCIe x4 SSD
Samsung 970 Pro 1TB M.2 PCIe 3.0 x4 NVMe 3D-VNAND SSD - Up to 3,500 MB/s Read-2,700 MB/s Write - Installed by HIDevolution - $420.00
Wireless Cards
Intel® Wireless-AC 9560 802.11 ac/a/b/g/n 2x2 NGFF w/ Bluetooth 5.0
Operating System
Genuine Windows® 10 Professional, 64bit, English
Operating System Clean Install
Yes, Clean Install of Windows 10 including 32GB Clean Install Flash Drive - $40.00
Office Software
None
Power Adapter
1 x 150W AC Power Adapter (supports 100-240V)
Internal Battery
Internal 8 cell battery, 71WHrs
Warranty and Service
1 Year Limited U.S. Warranty + 1 Year International Warranty on base system w/ Asus in local region, where supported + LIFETIME HIDevolution Technical Support
Accidental Damage Protection
1 Year Accidental Damage Protection
HIDevolution International Pre-paid Shipping (HIPS) Service
None
Asus ROG Front Lid Logo Color
White Asus Front Lid Logo
AS-UX580GE-XB74T 1 $3,089.00
Subtotal $3,089.00
Shipping & Handling $0.00
Grand Total $3,089.00
Thank you, HIDevolution.com

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TheBenefactor View Post
I am using a laptop by MSI.


Fast.

Gamers like it.

Complaint? The fan sounds like Boeing made it to start a jet engine.

The people in the trading room I visit can hear it, LOL. They tell me it sounds like Martian music.

👍😀

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As far as the noise goes it can be reduced by the following tweak in Windows at least:

Power management >
Advanced Power management >
Processor Power management >
Maximum processor state:
Reduce from 100 to 90 or 80 depending on the performance vs fan noise reduction of your choice.

Two more ideas to try --
1. Use compressed / canned air to blow away the dust that may have accumulated on the fan blades, the screen and the CPU heat-sink / fan.

2. Replace the existing fan(s) with a "quite" fan(s). For example -- Thermaltake CL-F015-PL20BL- Pure Series Quiet High Airflow Case Fan.

BillW

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Thanks to you guys' help I am down to a workstation from MSI or a "custom" from Falcon. I definitely will be using a different computer than the laptop for email, internet, etc. This laptop is strictly for business (trading).

This is the one from MSI that I am looking at: https://us.msi.com/Workstation/WE75-Intel-9th-Gen

I agree, Alienware is overpriced for sure.

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Faster Compute with the use of GPU


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You can configure them without a gaming GPU.
But on my Surface Book 2, the GPU is in the base and like most GPU's it can be turned off if not needed.
The performance is not affected unless you are doing graphic intensive things.(games, videos, etc)

I think what Sam meant was you don't need a gaming GPU to trade.
The trading software does not take advantage of the gaming GPU and is not as essential as a fast internet connection, lots of ram, fast CPU and SSD.

FWIW


With the Metatrader 5 platform , you may take advantage of the power of your GPU.
Here is an example. An array with 33 million elements is sorted with the use of the CPU and then with a GPU.
With the use of CPU, it took 3709 ms.
With the use of GPU, it took 920 ms.

https://futures.io/metatrader/40840-metatrader-5-now-available-trading-futures-5.html#post696958

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Buy a laptop and add other parts to save some money

I didn't quite read all the post and someone may have mentioned this but if you're looking to save some money. Most laptops you can easily install the RAM yourself. So buy that separate. If you could find a laptop that has a NVMe M.2. SSD slot to install yourself as well you could save a lot. For ssd, I'd go with samsung since they seem to be the most reliable.

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I have a Falcon Laptop that I'm really pleased with. It will handle extension monitors. Go with 32g ram and SSD. Service is great with Falcon. I have 3 Desktops (2 older gens to be retired) and 1 laptop. Will always use them.

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ALC77 View Post
Thanks to you guys' help I am down to a workstation from MSI or a "custom" from Falcon. I definitely will be using a different computer than the laptop for email, internet, etc. This laptop is strictly for business (trading).

This is the one from MSI that I am looking at: https://us.msi.com/Workstation/WE75-Intel-9th-Gen

I agree, Alienware is overpriced for sure.

Here is Falcon's number 800-557-7142. I strongly urge you to call them. You won't regret it.

They are traders and they sell machines to big time traders/banks.

Ron

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I'm genuinely surprised by all the people recommending spending hundreds of extra $$ to buy a laptop/desktop from someone who specializes in "trading computers".

I put trading computers in quotations because that's not a thing (at least not in terms of laptops and desktops). A desktop for trading might be optimized to handle lots of monitors, but you can configure a desktop like that from many builders who won't charge you a premium for attaching trading to the name.

The speed of your computer wont really make a difference for scalping, other than ensuring it is fast enough, and any modern 4-6 core laptop cpu will be more than fine. A few extra microseconds of time spent processing data on your local computer is dwarfed by the time the orders will spend traversing from Fort Worth Texas to Aurora Illinois.

As for your external monitor the on-board graphics of intel cpu's are more than enough to drive a 1 or 2 external 4k monitors.

SSD and RAM are the largest quality of life features you have control over, 32gb of ram would be great, and will keep your computer feeling speedy for many years. As for the ssd get however much space you need, but there is no reason to have a spinning hard drive in a modern desktop/laptop.

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