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Lets talk about Windows 7 and 10 and other things.

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The issue with Windows 7 is the security flags. Hackers are able to hack your computer lightning fast with them. Every since that NSA leaked file coupled with some other one. Windows 10 had to do a structural redesign to fix that problem. Just read a full article on it.

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LDog - Yes, i have tried compatibility mode. It didn't seem to make any difference at all. It certainly didn't fix the problem.

As a followup however, I would add that SC has been working on it with me. They've put in a lot of hours developing several new "pre release" upgrades in an effort to fix the problem. I know this thread is about platform preference, but I did want to mention SC's efforts.

I view MS as an 80/20 type of corporation. They will strive to produce products that work well for 80% of their customers. Some of their initial offerings on operating systems didn't even make that mark (IMO). Some like NT & XP probably exceeded. Windows 8 fell short and initial offerings of 10 seem to be met with mixed experiences.

Like I said earlier, for me, I just need it to be stable. I'm not looking for fancy. And perhaps that's the issue with some of this. Some of us would just like a down-and-dirty OS that doesn't have all the bells and whistles they're trying to incorporate into 10. A tank vs a lambo.

So there's a question for you: If MS offered a stripped down OS that was rock solid but with limited features - was fast and efficient, but not flashy - An OS that simply let the client's software do the job and didn't try to become the main focus. Would that interest you? I think it would interest me.

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The issue with Windows 7 is the security flags. Hackers are able to hack your computer lightning fast with them.

I kind of doubt that. W 7 is still the most used OS, every other computer has it. 49% market share.

https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-7-loses-market-share-in-latest-reports

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This just means that we will have the option to delay it for 35 days, what happens after 35 days?

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This just means that we will have the option to delay it for 35 days, what happens after 35 days?

Well spotted Reeve, I had missed that! I will remove the link to the article given it does not say what I thought it said


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I jumped on it eagerly, hoping it was a fix, This windows 10 update story is driving me crazy. I have done my best to stop it including searching the web and speaking to the gurus, There is software out there that will interrupt the download should it start, however after 35 days, if the update is not done, certain packages stop working correctly, think word excel ect ect. It is so WRONG of Microsoft to do this. I am not tech savvy and have to pay to have someone fix my PC when things go wrong. I am in a permanent webinar with my trading and have a headset with a mike as well as a set of separate speakers plugged in. After every update, something goes haywire, either the mike does not work or the sound only comes out the speakers and not the headset, every now and again, its the cameras turn and that goes on the blink. Why should I have to pay every 5 minutes to have something repaired that is not of my doing?

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I jumped on it eagerly, hoping it was a fix, This windows 10 update story is driving me crazy. I have done my best to stop it including searching the web and speaking to the gurus, There is software out there that will interrupt the download should it start, however after 35 days, if the update is not done, certain packages stop working correctly, think word excel ect ect. It is so WRONG of Microsoft to do this. I am not tech savvy and have to pay to have someone fix my PC when things go wrong. I am in a permanent webinar with my trading and have a headset with a mike as well as a set of separate speakers plugged in. After every update, something goes haywire, either the mike does not work or the sound only comes out the speakers and not the headset, every now and again, its the cameras turn and that goes on the blink. Why should I have to pay every 5 minutes to have something repaired that is not of my doing?

Sorry to hear about your problems with updates.

Until I got to the point in your post where you started detailing the things that have gone wrong, I didn't think there was a real problem, but the fact that you do have these issues obviously is important and I can't blame you for not wanting them any more.

Still, I'll just toss in my update experience, which is essentially the opposite.

When Windows 10 first came out I did have some issues with peripheral equipment, specifically sound, as you do. Sometimes it would work OK with one update and then stop with the next. I fiddled around with some hardware workarounds and eventually it all settled down (I think not because of what I did, which was minimal, but because they finally started getting it right.) Other than that, I have had literally zero issues with any update for the past several years. And this is an old, old PC, too, much older than Windows 10, and it's running it OK with each update.

I do understand your being frustrated when something that should be simple and routine doesn't work. Unless I'm very mistaken, I think your experience may be unusual. If you have to pay for someone to fix things (which I have never done), then I wonder if you may have hardware issues that can be fixed by changing the hardware. I can't make any remote suggestions (and I'm not a hardware guy anyway), but if you were to ask around I think you might find some alternatives. I don't think you have to put up with this any more. Unless I'm very wrong, I don't think many people do.

Now we'll probably hear from a lot of others who do have issues, which is a good thing if there are in fact a lot who do.... But I still think it is probably not that common, which is good news for you because it would mean there is a way out of your issues.

Good luck. I know you must be fed up, and I think/hope you can find a good, permanent solution.

Bob.

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Update: As I recall, I switched all my sound stuff, which includes external speakers and headphones/microphone, from the PC's native sound port to USB ports. I got a cheap gadget that plugs into a USB port and provides regular sound jacks and that let me plug in my speakers, and I got a USB headphone/microphone. This may not help you, but I think Windows was gagging on my PC's old sound jack or its drivers or something, and the more modern USB stuff worked with it better.

Just a thought.


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I maintain literally a fleet of win 10 machines without any any problem, I don't even install any extra virus software. I still have 1 win 7 left out of abundance of caution but its days is number. I probl will turn it into Linux machine.

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Good luck. I know you must be fed up, and I think/hope you can find a good, permanent solution.

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I can't imagine how anyone can use KDE for a month and go back to Windows. Linux use to be for repressed nerds with nothing better to do than work on their OS.
In 2019 Ubuntu is just so much cleaner and easier to install than Windows. Everything just works out of the box. Windows 10 is a disgrace. KDE feels like Windows 30.

You don't even know how bad your computer runs on Windows 10 until you install KDE.

You have to be crazy to not try Kubuntu or KDE Neon. You don't even have to install and can boot off a thumb drive.

If you have an Android too you have to install KDE Connect on your phone. I send files back and forth from my table and phone to computer over wireless. KDE sees my phone and tablet like it is any other harddrive without any wires.

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LOL @centaurer, now you got my gears turning... personally I have little issue with W10, but have always been intrigued by Linux... looks like it can run Sierrachart lol...

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