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Old November 22nd, 2016, 12:09 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Thought I'd post an update.

I feel like the hard drive is on death row. I'm going to run it until it either becomes too slow or it gives out fully. Although I might pick up a SSD on Friday depending on what the Black Friday sales are like, I will be shopping afterall

As for general observations. I had a bunch of drivers that weren't installed, I got them from my MOBO website and then installed them (including ethernet driver, which was annoying). Things were extremely slow at first but after an hour things looked back to normal.
I ran some games last night to test the GPU and it all looked fine, everything was running smooth as if nothing had happened.
I ran the hard drive tests and all except HDDrive couldn't even identify that I had a hard drive .

I ran some more tests today and here are the results:

As some predicted, it did not pass the WD test.
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I downloaded another test to see if it would show me more details, and here is what that test showed:
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I ran chkdsk as well, here is what happened
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There was one more thing that shows up right after that for like a split second and then the chkdsk closes, I'm assuming that means it's all good to go

Also, I don't know if it matters but for some reason my PC reads my hard drive as if it was a USB, I am able to "eject" it.

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Old November 22nd, 2016, 03:53 PM   #32 (permalink)
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WD Drives

No offense intended here but with it being a WD you should replace it.

WD drives are only warrantied for 1 year for a reason.

Go with a Seagate or a SSD of another brand.
I quit using WD drives years ago because of the high failure rate after a year.

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Old November 23rd, 2016, 08:28 AM   #33 (permalink)
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When you run a command line program like chkdsk.exe, it is best to first open a CMD window and then type the command and hit enter. It will run and leave you with a c: prompt, without closing the window.


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Old November 25th, 2016, 08:46 AM   #34 (permalink)
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No offense intended here but with it being a WD you should replace it.

WD drives are only warrantied for 1 year for a reason.

Go with a Seagate or a SSD of another brand.
I quit using WD drives years ago because of the high failure rate after a year.

There is no absolute rules, WD is not always bad and Seagate always good.
I still have 4 WD HDD in a desktop, 3 years old, no problem.
On the other side I received 16 Seagate HDD last month (2.5" SAS drives for servers, not for "normal" PC, expensive and in theory much more reliable), 12 were dead after a week...
So bad batch can happen, whatever the brand.

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Old November 25th, 2016, 09:53 AM   #35 (permalink)
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There is no absolute rules, WD is not always bad and Seagate always good.
I still have 4 WD HDD in a desktop, 3 years old, no problem.
On the other side I received 16 Seagate HDD last month (2.5" SAS drives for servers, not for "normal" PC, expensive and in theory much more reliable), 12 were dead after a week...
So bad batch can happen, whatever the brand.

In my former life as a financial analyst i did some auditing. Based in Canada we were down in San Diego auditing a manufacturing plant that put about 600 chips on a disc about the size of a CD.

This was a very sterile environment. To audit it we had to wear white smocks with hoods, slippers and goggles.

The process basically involved laying photograph after photograph on top of each other until they built up enough silicone? to make a chip. Later they would cutup the cd sized disc and test the chips and if good use them to build printed circuit boards.

(for the millenials - manufacturing is where real value was added and real money was made, back in the day. Not slinging burgers. I guess in a way companies manufacture burgers but it is a relatively cheap product.)

Anyways...the company (Nortel) noticed there was a much higher reject rate in the afternoons. The chips being rejected were contaminated with aluminum. Yes the metal.

Where was this coming from?

It turns out that employees were having a coke with their lunch coming back to work, and every time they opened their mouth to talk to each other their spittle (containing aluminum from the coke) would land on the product and contaminate it.

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Old November 25th, 2016, 10:02 AM   #36 (permalink)
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No offense intended here but with it being a WD you should replace it.

WD drives are only warrantied for 1 year for a reason.

Go with a Seagate or a SSD of another brand.
I quit using WD drives years ago because of the high failure rate after a year.

I used to run Seagate drives. So many failed on me and I had to rebuild my computer software every time I swore off them and now only use WD.

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Old November 25th, 2016, 10:36 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Anybody aware of failure rates for SSD?

I'd expect that with no moving parts failure rates should be much lower...

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Old November 25th, 2016, 10:49 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I used to run Seagate drives. So many failed on me and I had to rebuild my computer software every time I swore off them and now only use WD.


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There is no absolute rules, WD is not always bad and Seagate always good.
I still have 4 WD HDD in a desktop, 3 years old, no problem.
On the other side I received 16 Seagate HDD last month (2.5" SAS drives for servers, not for "normal" PC, expensive and in theory much more reliable), 12 were dead after a week...
So bad batch can happen, whatever the brand.

I agree with each of you. Everything fails and sometimes bad batches occur.

However, if I can buy a drive with 1 year warranty (WD) for $xx.xx and get the same type/specs for a similar price with a 2 or 3 year warranty.... I wonder which I will choose?

As far as SSD drives, they are more reliable but also have flaws at times and can fail.
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Old November 25th, 2016, 11:24 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Anybody aware of failure rates for SSD?

I'd expect that with no moving parts failure rates should be much lower...

With the first SSDs you had more limited read-write cycles. In essence you could only write to a certain block so many times, before it became unusable. Thus, depending on usage an HDD could have had a higher life expectancy.

In recent years SSDs have gotten much better and should be more robust. If you have a HDD in a laptop and have said laptop on your lap you are running a much higher chance of failure due to the the mechanical components involved. SSD have no spinning disks which makes them more robust, they run much more efficient and cooler and thus reduce the risk of infertility if you routinely have a laptop on your lap.

All my laptops and workstations run on SSDs with my storage servers still running HDDs. SSDs are still at a disadvantage when it comes to capacity. I can load 4 6TB HDDs in a case and have 24TBs of space without complications. Getting all the cabling done for 24 1TB SSDs can be a bit of a nightmare.

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In my former life as a financial analyst i did some auditing. Based in Canada we were down in San Diego auditing a manufacturing plant that put about 600 chips on a disc about the size of a CD.

This was a very sterile environment. To audit it we had to wear white smocks with hoods, slippers and goggles.

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(for the millenials - manufacturing is where real value was added and real money was made, back in the day. Not slinging burgers. I guess in a way companies manufacture burgers but it is a relatively cheap product.)

Anyways...the company (Nortel) noticed there was a much higher reject rate in the afternoons. The chips being rejected were contaminated with aluminum. Yes the metal.

Where was this coming from?

It turns out that employees were having a coke with their lunch coming back to work, and every time they opened their mouth to talk to each other their spittle (containing aluminum from the coke) would land on the product and contaminate it.

I used to work for Samsung creating dram chips, thin films and photo. Good times, I am not surprised by this. Humans are disgusting.

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