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NJ on MacBook pro - Windows ?

Morning, i'm new here, have spent some time browsing around the different forums. A technical question from a techie.

I used to develop in Windows, its been years since i programmed anything...now i'm trading, using ToS. I've only traded Options, and found that tool to be awesome, no complaints from me. However, i've spent the last few months paper trading Futures on it. Not quite sure that ToS is the 'best' platform for Futures.

My home is all Apple products, iMAC, MacPro, etc... I'm preparing to start trading Futures more actively and longer hours with real $. I currently have the latest Macbook 15" with 16gb RAM with a SSD running on a i7. It will be connected to a larger monitor, if not 2, but here's my question.

Which tool/product can i get that will use my Mac's resources to the fullest? I hear Parallel, VM Fusion, Bootcamp, Oracle VM, etc.... Looking for a stable product that will allow me to trade just as if i were on a Windows OS. No hiccups, no delays.

I've kind of decided to go with Ninja Trader's platform, knowing that there product does not support iOS. Any feedback from iMAC users using NT would be greatly appreciated!

If it comes down to divorcing from Apple just to have a solid, stable system, i would jump to Windows, and acquire a used Windows laptop. Question to that is...which laptop would be the ideal one, if its only going to be used for trading? I'm used to using all IBM laptops back in the 90's. Now i don't know what to use.

thanks!!!

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I've gone through a similar process. All Apple "ecosystem" and the need use platforms which are windows only. I didn't look much into the virtualization possibilities, I've gone the BootCamp way. To me, it seems the best solution, as windows becomes "native" in terms of hardware access (specially the graphics card for multi-monitor support).

However, with that said, a few months ago I decided to buy a windows laptop just for trading. I ended up getting a 15" Dell Inspiron 5548 with Core i7 and 16GB RAM and a Full HD display.

Another option would be to use a platform that works in OS X. There is this one which looks very promising, though I still don't have any experience with it.

MotiveWave: Stocks, Futures, Options and Forex Trading/Analysis Platform

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Thanks for the input. I may decide to go the route as well...get a windows laptop. Would love to hear from other Mac users.

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I'm also a Mac user and my daily driver is a 2014 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM. I have a Windows 10 Bootcamp installation and VMware Fusion to start the Bootcamp installation in OS X if I don't need the native performance. Works quite well for me.


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Hey Volemont, excuse my ignorance, but you mentioned Bootcamp & Fusion. You don't need both, right? My understanding is that you have the option of Bootcamp or Parallel/Fusion VM. If you do have both, which one provides you the best performance?

I rather not invest on another laptop, unless i really need to. However, if i'm staying with Mac, i would like to acquire the best tool in the market.

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I'm also a Mac user and my daily driver is a 2014 MacBook Pro with 16GB RAM. I have a Windows 10 Bootcamp installation and VMware Fusion to start the Bootcamp installation in OS X if I don't need the native performance. Works quite well for me.

If you have tried running the platforms on VMware Fusion, could you comment on multi-monitor performance using that setup? Any bugs, any tweaks needed?

Initially, I haven't looked further into virtualization solutions because I thought that BootCamp would offer the best multi-monitor compatibility, but maybe I am wrong in that assumption.

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Hey Volemont, excuse my ignorance, but you mentioned Bootcamp & Fusion. You don't need both, right? My understanding is that you have the option of Bootcamp or Parallel/Fusion VM. If you do have both, which one provides you the best performance?

Correct, you don't need both. I sometimes like to work on OS X and run Windows applications such as Visual Studio or other software to monitor my trading systems. It's a single Windows Bootcamp installation, which I can either boot natively or within OS X. Bootcamp gives the full native performance.


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If you have tried running the platforms on VMware Fusion, could you comment on multi-monitor performance using that setup? Any bugs, any tweaks needed?

I don't have a multi-monitor setup, sorry.

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Another vote for Bootcamp here.

I run TradeStation on Windows 10 via Bootcamp on a 2014 MacBook Pro 13".

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Just thought i should communicate that i went ahead and purchased Win10, along with VM Fusion 8. It is working great. I have NT & ToS running without a hitch.

Thanks all,

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I thought Apple fanboys were for kids 16 and under. We have some very young traders here.

Bootcamp is the most popular and recommended way to run Windows on a MacBook.

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