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By the way, it could be some work to get your OS onto a PCIe SSD mirror.

With M.2 or U.2 and UEFI on X99 or X100, and Windows 8.1 or 10, it should be fine.

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Hi all.

I would pay for a Mac Pro / MacOS if Apple had a decent trading platform, but I don't think they do. My nightmare is a Windows reboot at the moment that I'm setting my stop limit..

Parts selected for reliability, mission-critical features (i.e. overheat alarm), and statistically fewer manufacturer returns. Any thoughts on this £2000/$2000 hardware setup for Windows/TT?

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for me the question is a little bit more complex.

I have 3 parts

- the development / testing (the stuff that travels with me
- the discretionary trading (the station when i'm trading
- the automated trading (hosted VPS

Do you want to do all on the same single machine ?

While i am still on a windows stack and typical laptop/PC environment
i will migrate to a mac-book pro with virtualization to run a windows box on it
(i already do the same on my main desktop pc)
i am a heavy traveler and i think the mac-book pro offers the biggest cpu power for the lowest weight..

unfortunately they could not deliver the 1TB SSD version before my next trip
it does not sell in the stores in europe
only made to order

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for me the question is a little bit more complex.

I have 3 parts

- the development / testing (the stuff that travels with me
- the discretionary trading (the station when i'm trading
- the automated trading (hosted VPS

Do you want to do all on the same single machine ?

While i am still on a windows stack and typical laptop/PC environment
i will migrate to a mac-book pro with virtualization to run a windows box on it
(i already do the same on my main desktop pc)
i am a heavy traveler and i think the mac-book pro offers the biggest cpu power for the lowest weight..

unfortunately they could not deliver the 1TB SSD version before my next trip
it does not sell in the stores in europe
only made to order

If it's the hardware you want I would suggest you to run windows on bootcamp to keep the workload on the cpu as low as possible. As far as running all your tasks simultaniously I don't have any reference point of how much cpu-power you need but it pretty much seems like you would need the 4 core and the biggest ram possible for your macbook. You should run the tasks your are looking for on your laptop to have grasp of what workload on the cpu and ram-usage you need. Are you worried that the macbook will crash when you are running all the tasks at the same time or if the macbooks hardware will handle the tasks seperately with no issues?

I've owned the 13" macbook retina (mid 2014) and my experiences is that the screen will make your fans spin at max when watching movies because of the high resolution but any other tasks worked without any issues. The advantages with the 15" is that it has 2 fans haha so it might run a little cooler. The cpu temp was usually at 50-65 degrees celsius(running parallels and some other programs) which obviously not comparable with a stationary pc but I think the limit is at 90 degrees somewhere maybe more.

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If it's the hardware you want I would suggest you to run windows on bootcamp to keep the workload on the cpu as low as possible. As far as running all your tasks simultaniously I don't have any reference point of how much cpu-power you need but it pretty much seems like you would need the 4 core and the biggest ram possible for your macbook. You should run the tasks your are looking for on your laptop to have grasp of what workload on the cpu and ram-usage you need. Are you worried that the macbook will crash when you are running all the tasks at the same time or if the macbooks hardware will handle the tasks seperately with no issues?

I've owned the 13" macbook retina (mid 2014) and my experiences is that the screen will make your fans spin at max when watching movies because of the high resolution but any other tasks worked without any issues. The advantages with the 15" is that it has 2 fans haha so it might run a little cooler. The cpu temp was usually at 50-65 degrees celsius(running parallels and some other programs) which obviously not comparable with a stationary pc but I think the limit is at 90 degrees somewhere maybe more.

Next couple months i am in Negev Desert,
temperatures are 37°C/100°F

I remember a long time ago (in Belgium), when my pc stopped working
in very hot summer days...

will share... if that becomes an issue...

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Macan View Post
I've owned the 13" macbook retina (mid 2014) and my experiences is that the screen will make your fans spin at max when watching movies because of the high resolution but any other tasks worked without any issues. The advantages with the 15" is that it has 2 fans haha so it might run a little cooler.

This problem was first noticed with the first 13" Aluminium Macbook Pros. Not sure if Apple resolved this or if reviewers stopped mentioning this. The 15" Macbook Pro ran quite a lot cooler.

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for me the question is a little bit more complex.

I have 3 parts

- the development / testing (the stuff that travels with me
- the discretionary trading (the station when i'm trading
- the automated trading (hosted VPS

Do you want to do all on the same single machine ?

While i am still on a windows stack and typical laptop/PC environment
i will migrate to a mac-book pro with virtualization to run a windows box on it
(i already do the same on my main desktop pc)
i am a heavy traveler and i think the mac-book pro offers the biggest cpu power for the lowest weight..

unfortunately they could not deliver the 1TB SSD version before my next trip
it does not sell in the stores in europe
only made to order

I'm cautious. My concern is that storing dev or test code/assets on portable machine carries risk of loss/theft/breakage. I would also not host dev/test in a machine with direct access to exchange due to risk of error/bugs/virus

In my scheme of things, portable machine is little more than an SSH/X11 terminal and the screen/battery takes precedence over cpu/ram (my terminal is currently a MacBook Air). My dev/test machine is just a virtualbox that can be cloned/copied/moved to de-risk hardware dependency (the last time it ran, it was powered by a "good enough" laptop with broken monitor). Hosting it on AWS is an option.

I don't consider any of these items to be my trading computer. But if people were all the same, the markets would not be volatile..

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Doing some updates to the build, which will be based on a X99 motherboard.

Chassi
Fractal Design Define R5

Motherboard
Update: Asus X99-Pro/USB 3.1

CPU
Update: Intel Xeon E5-1650v3

CPU-cooler
Be-Quiet Dark Rock 3

GPU
Nvidia NVS 510 - 4x4k monitor
Alternative: PNY Quadro K620 to run 1 40" 4k display

RAM
Corsair Vengeance LPX Black DDR4

SSD
Samsung SM951 M.2 SSD

PSU
Update: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W

Estimated price tag: ~ 1800 USD

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For the ones who are intrested in small footprints:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Macan/saved/

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For the ones who are intrested in small footprints:

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Macan/saved/

Here is my build that I just ordered:

- Ncase M1 v4 mini-ITX
- ASRock Z170 Gaming ITX/ac
- i7-6700k
- 32gb (2x16gb) G.Skill TridentZ
- Samsung 950 Pro M.2
- Radeon R9 Nano
- Silverstone SX500-LG

To go with my triple 4K 40" displays.

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London Trader View Post
Hi all.

I would pay for a Mac Pro / MacOS if Apple had a decent trading platform, but I don't think they do. My nightmare is a Windows reboot at the moment that I'm setting my stop limit..

Parts selected for reliability, mission-critical features (i.e. overheat alarm), and statistically fewer manufacturer returns. Any thoughts on this £2000/$2000 hardware setup for Windows/TT?

Intel Xeon 2GHz; Corsair Hydro H60; Gigabyte MW50-SVO; Matrox M9148 (x2 = 8 monitors); Intel S3700 (x2 mirroring)


Last I checked, overall performance of a Mac runnning Windows (e.g. via Bootcamp) was superior to native Wintel machines. This was 2 years ago, so it may not be still relevant, but it's worth keeping that in mind, given the quality builds you get from Apple.

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