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I'm just updating my 4x21inch monitors and was referred here. I like the idea of 1 screen, very much.

If one was to source a 40inch 4K LED Smart TV are there features that should be avoided and 'a must have'. What I'm really alluding to here is; are there features in TV screens that will inhibit you (more that monitors), over time, while trading 8-odd hours a day [and only trading - no games or TV/movies]?.

And/or any suggestions on good value 40in 4K TVs that you guys would recommend?

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I got the Philips BDM4065 40" 4K monitor yesterday. Set it up with my existing Radeon R9 270 using DP 1.2 @60 Hz. The AMD Catalyst Control center software, up until last year, had a feature called HydraVision (HydraGrid) that enabled desktop management. It allowed creating virtual desktops so my goal was to create 4 virtual desktops so that I have an equivalent of the look and feel of 4 individual 1920x1080 monitors. I was surprised to find that HydraVision has been discontinued and has achieved EOL. I could install an older version and get HydraVision to work but I do not want to depend on something that has no more support from AMD. AMD has focused on Eyefinity since which is geared more towards gaming and combining many displays to work as one but there are no desktop management features in the newer versions of their software.

So, after spending the majority of the day researching, I found that NVIDIA's quadro and NVS lines come with their nView sortware that basically does what I am looking for. I will either buy the NVS 810 or 510 once I verify they can support DP 1.2 @ 60 Hz and try to set this up. My ultimate goal is to have 2 or possibly 3 of these monitors which basically would be an equivalent of having 8-12 virtual 1920x1080 desktops.

Will post pictures once its all setup.

Ordered another one of these monitors. After a lot of research and a phone conversation with NVIDIA support, I went with the NVIDIA Quaddro K1200 (http://images.nvidia.com/content/pdf/quadro/data-sheets/14415_DS_NV_Quadro_K1200_NOV15_US_NV_FNL_HR.pdf). This one comes with 4 mini-DP ports each capable of supporting DP 1.2, 3840x2160 @ 60 Hz. I also researched the correct cables to buy and found these Amazon.com: Accell B143B-007J UltraAV Mini DisplayPort to DisplayPort 1.2 Cable with Latch, White, 6.6-Feet: Electronics. These have been certified at the displayport.org. These are 2m (6.6 ft) long and I had to rearrange the position of my workstation so that the cables reach the back of the case. Ideally, I would have loved to have a 10 ft cable and though there are a couple of them available, I am not sure if they will truly support DP 1.2 because the length of the cable might be too long.

The nView desktop manager worked as expected and now I have the equivalent of 8 monitors and I do not need to turn my head around to view all of them.

This is what the monitors look like:
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For comparison, this is a picture of the NVIDIA Quaddro vs the 2 massive AMD cards I was using (an R9 270 and an HD7770) to run 6 monitors.

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Rarely do things go from inception to implementation perfectly. This was one of those things, went smoothly without problems and works as anticipated. Very happy with the setup.

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Hulk,
Quick question: how is the noisy level of the NVIDIA K1200? Can you hear the card fan while seating at your desk?

Another question, which software are you using to divide the screen on 4 smaller areas (like 4 monitors). If I had to resize them all the time would drive me crazy, that's the advantage of having multiple monitors, I can maximize, only on that monitor.

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Hulk,
Quick question: how is the noisy level of the NVIDIA K1200? Can you hear the card fan while seating at your desk?

Another question, which software are you using to divide the screen on 4 smaller areas (like 4 monitors). If I had to resize them all the time would drive me crazy, that's the advantage of having multiple monitors, I can maximize, only on that monitor.

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I can hear a fan or fans but I cannot tell if it is the graphics card. The noise level from before when I had 2 AMD cards and now hasn't changed so its most likely not the graphics card but I cannot be certain. I have a custom build and one of those bigger cases with 4 fans and I think that these fans are the ones making the noise. It does not bother me though.

NVIDIA has a software called nView Desktop Manager. I use that to create 4 virtual desktops on 1 monitor. Most applications can be dragged using the title bar and snapped into a pseudo maximized state in any quadrant. You also have the option of having nView buttons show up on the title bars of all applications. These are similar to windows minimize, maximize, close buttons. I have found that a couple of programs do not recognize nView so its not flawless. If you use something like Trillian, it will still try and snap to the entire height of the monitor and will not honor nNiew.

You can find out more about nView here: nView Desktop Management Software from NVIDIA|NVIDIA.

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I can hear a fan or fans but I cannot tell if it is the graphics card. The noise level from before when I had 2 AMD cards and now hasn't changed so its most likely not the graphics card but I cannot be certain. I have a custom build and one of those bigger cases with 4 fans and I think that these fans are the ones making the noise. It does not bother me though.

NVIDIA has a software called nView Desktop Manager. I use that to create 4 virtual desktops on 1 monitor. Most applications can be dragged using the title bar and snapped into a pseudo maximized state in any quadrant. You also have the option of having nView buttons show up on the title bars of all applications. These are similar to windows minimize, maximize, close buttons. I have found that a couple of programs do not recognize nView so its not flawless. If you use something like Trillian, it will still try and snap to the entire height of the monitor and will not honor nNiew.

You can find out more about nView here: nView Desktop Management Software from NVIDIA|NVIDIA.

you can also try something like displayfusion to do something similar. https://www.displayfusion.com/

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Hulk,
Quick question: how is the noisy level of the NVIDIA K1200? Can you hear the card fan while seating at your desk?

Another question, which software are you using to divide the screen on 4 smaller areas (like 4 monitors). If I had to resize them all the time would drive me crazy, that's the advantage of having multiple monitors, I can maximize, only on that monitor.

Thanks

OK, after a week, I am noticing a constant whine and it is becoming annoying. I dont believe I had this before so at this point, I can confirm that it is the GPU card. It is possible that this GPU card draws more power and causes the PSU to generate the whine, I am not sure. I downloaded Open Hardware Monitor and I can see that while the GPU fan speed changes, the whine does not so maybe it is the PSU. I should have researched this before but I had no idea at the time. I will try replacing my PSU and if that does not work then I will have to replace the K1200 with something better. Until then, my bose headphones are my best friend.


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It's most likely your PSU I would think, because look at how PNY describes the K1200:

" Ultra-Quiet Design Near silent cooling design enables lower acoustics for an ultra-quiet desktop environment - See more at: https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-k1200-displayport#sthash.I7pgHSoS.dpuf "

https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-k1200-displayport

Please, let me know if you find the source because the K1200 is in my list for my next build.

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Might be coil whine. Here's a video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP73edpQwgc

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It's most likely your PSU I would think, because look at how PNY describes the K1200:

" Ultra-Quiet Design Near silent cooling design enables lower acoustics for an ultra-quiet desktop environment - See more at: https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-k1200-displayport#sthash.I7pgHSoS.dpuf "

https://www.pny.com/nvidia-quadro-k1200-displayport

Please, let me know if you find the source because the K1200 is in my list for my next build.

Thanks!


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Might be coil whine. Here's a video about it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP73edpQwgc

Guys, it was a hard drive going bad that was causing that whine/noise. It drove me nuts trying to troubleshoot it. I changed my PSU and my CPU cooler in the process but I finally did figure it out. The machine is running really quiet now even under load.

On the 4K front, I now have 2 machines connected to my 2 Philips 40" 4K monitors using both the DP and mini-DP ports. I needed to separate my development machine from my trading machine so decided to go for another AMD build. For the new build, I am using EVGA's version of the GTX 960. I called EVGA to verify that it would support 2 4K monitors at 60 Hz and they confirmed that it will support 4. This card uses 3 DP 1.2 ports and 1 HDMI 2.0 to support this - max refresh rate is 240 Hz.

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