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I am about to build a trading specific computer and have a draft version of a parts list. Anyone available to comment on it? @vegasfoster?

I am planning to use the Kingston value Series memory instead of what is shown, and have read a few bad reports about Corsiar power supply, Antec seems better.

This new build computer will not do: Skype, Facebook, DVDs, Itunes, web browsing, email, photo storage, etc. Only what is required for trading, an operating system, internet access, and a trading platform.


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Any comments are welcome. I am about to start buying parts. The only things I am attached to are

the Asus Z87 board (any)

Intel i series (went to i5 without hyperthreading)

and an SSD HD (may need bigger than 120, I know, still reading and learning and did not update the photo, but using 25.8GB currently through XP).

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Most of the Kinston RAM is 1.65V and 1150 (and Ivy and Sandy Bridge) specify 1.5V... no idea why Kingston do this, but I would go with some G Skill
also, the new "sweet spot" for memory is 1866 - rec = G.Skill Ares F3-1866C9D-8GAB 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 [GS-F3-1866C9D-8GAB] - $109.00 : PC Case Gear

any reason you are getting an overclocking capable mobo when using a non overclocking CPU? You might want to consider a non-OC board or CPU that can be OC'd

Thermaltake cases are poor quality cases. You could do much better with a Corsair or Fractal Design

Not sure what model PSU that is - but the lower series models are not the quality of their prev models (made by Seasonic) Switch to an Antec HGS - ignore the (gamer series) description - its made by Seaonic and is a great PSU for the $$$

I'm a fan of using a SSD for the operating system, and a secondary drive for all of the data that is constantly changing (My Docs, Videos, Pictures etc). This way, Windows is quickly reinstalled if req. And if Windows completely bombs, all your critical data is on a second drive. Also, no need to keep doing backups of Windows except for program updates. I would then run another drive to do mirror copies of your personal data - and the mirror copy of the files can be done daily and take little time. 1TB drives are cheap, so easily grab two (one for all the data, one for backing up the data to). I would keep the mirror version external and should the main drive die, just literally chuck in the mirror and you are off and running. Simarly, if the SSD dies - its quick to reinstall Windows on a new SSD and either restore an image or reinstall programs from scratch, as you don't have to mess with all your data.

1150 Chips run hot, I would chuck in a dedicated CPU cooler to quiet down the system - Cooler Master 212 is great bang for buck - pretty much an industry standard

Home version only allows you to run a max of 16GB - pro goes up to 32GB

hope I haven't confused you

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No, I actually got that. Thanks.

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I would then run another drive to do mirror copies of your personal data - and the mirror copy of the files can be done daily and take little time. 1TB drives are cheap, so easily grab two (one for all the data, one for backing up the data to). I would keep the mirror version external and should the main drive die, just literally chuck in the mirror and you are off and running. Simarly, if the SSD dies - its quick to reinstall Windows on a new SSD and either restore an image or reinstall programs from scratch, as you don't have to mess with all your data.

Do you use raid for the mirror or a program? Been looking for backup program that will incrementally automatically backup a couple of versions of the files. I have the Windows 8 "file history" turned on for the secondary drive with the data but if the drive fails and is replaced don't know how reliable Windows File History is for restoring all the data.

I just ordered a barebones pc 2 days ago, waiting now for the parts to arrive. Don't know if I made a terrible mistake, lol, I'll know once it is up and running. I got seduced by the tiny size of these babies, ordered the i7 one, with a 480gb ssd and 8 gigs ram:
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Do you use raid for the mirror or a program?

nothing so fancy I just use Free File Sync - literally makes a carbon copy - and then will just sync to bring any changes up-to-date when you ever I run it - either manually or automatically - I have 1 SSD for OS, another for My Docs, Historic Data, etc and then an HDD for Media, and another for for keeping backups - Paragon for OS and Free File Sync for everything else... and then there's the cloud and sep drive for really really can't ever lose stuff

As for BRIC - no room for watercooling, otherwise it will be completely adequate

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I am about to build a trading specific computer and have a draft version of a parts list. Anyone available to comment on it? @vegasfoster?

I am planning to use the Kingston value Series memory instead of what is shown, and have read a few bad reports about Corsiar power supply, Antec seems better.

This new build computer will not do: Skype, Facebook, DVDs, Itunes, web browsing, email, photo storage, etc. Only what is required for trading, an operating system, internet access, and a trading platform.


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Some comments:

CPU

CPU - Power is the most important consideration for a trading PC. The Intel i5-4440 has an integrated GPU which is not needed, if you add a graphics adapter. For a few bucks more you would get an Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 3.3 GHz. Its CPU mark is 9.551 compared to a CPU mark 6.471 for the i5-4440. In particular the Xeon processor uses hyper-threading, which doubles the number of threads that the CPU can process simultaneously. Also the Xeon processor has a slightly better energy efficiency.

Graphics Adapter

For a graphics card to be used with a trading computer there are three considerations

- sufficient RAM to support several monitors (best choice would be 2GByte RAM)
- 3 connectors to allow for direct connection of 3 monitors
- passive cooling (no noise)
- low energy consumption

If you take the EVGA adapter that comes with 2 DVI and one HDMI port, it is probably a good choice and will do the job. 1 GByte RAM should be also sufficient. It does not have passive cooling, so you might hear the fan of the card. A low noise option with 2 GByte RAM is the Asus 2 GB GT 640 Direct CU Silent adapter. It also has a faster GPU, but this is not needed.

Otherwise I like your configuration. The Samsung EVO series is a good choice, I also use it and I am happy with it. However, I would go for a model with at least 256 GByte.

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Some comments:

CPU

CPU - Power is the most important consideration for a trading PC. The Intel i5-4440 has an integrated GPU which is not needed, if you add a graphics adapter. For a few bucks more you would get an Intel Xeon E3-1230 v3 3.3 GHz. Its CPU mark is 9.551 compared to a CPU mark 6.471 for the i5-4440. In particular the Xeon processor uses hyper-threading, which doubles the number of threads that the CPU can process simultaneously. Also the Xeon processor has a slightly better energy efficiency.

Graphics Adapter

For a graphics card to be used with a trading computer there are three considerations

- sufficient RAM to support several monitors (best choice would be 2GByte RAM)
- 3 connectors to allow for direct connection of 3 monitors
- passive cooling (no noise)
- low energy consumption

If you take the EVGA adapter that comes with 2 DVI and one HDMI port, it is probably a good choice and will do the job. 1 GByte RAM should be also sufficient. It does not have passive cooling, so you might hear the fan of the card. A low noise option with 2 GByte RAM is the Asus 2 GB GT 640 Direct CU Silent adapter. It also has a faster GPU, but this is not needed.

Otherwise I like your configuration. The Samsung EVO series is a good choice, I also use it and I am happy with it. However, I would go for a model with at least 256 GByte.

Do not forget the E3-1270 V3! 3,5ghz, turbo mode 3,9ghz it is the big brother of the i7 4770. I do not know if there is any difference in stability but I can tell you that when I switch to a xeon I do not know what BOSD is any more. It is just a rock stable system.
If you ever used a xeon you never look back again!

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Hello,

Looks like a nice listing for computer parts, and I would ask "what to you plan on using you SSD for", for example boot drive? If so, then I would use a bigger SSD than the 120. One more item-- you should check on Maximum PC website they have great reviews for current and new computer items.


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