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Intel flaunts 8-core Extreme Edition Haswell with support for DDR4 memory

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Is hybrid graphics support only available in the Z chipset?


Is Hybrid Multi-monitor available on all 8 series Intel chipsets? [Solved] - Intel - Motherboards

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probably not unique to me, 8GB memory is cutting it too fine - often am using more than 6 for "everyday use" - just running a backup program on its own is using 4GB - once you add NT running multiple workspaces, browsers, video, broker platform, evernote (journal-ling) etc - 8 would start to impact performance

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Everyone, thanks for all the input. it really helped me learn a lot very quickly. I am placing my orders today for the following build:

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Intel Xeon E3-1245 V3, Fractal Design Core 1000 USB 3.0 - System Build - PCPartPicker


Operating system still in debate...

For a trading only system, does anyone think running Windows Server is a better/more stable/less full of junk OS than the normal consumer Win 7?

Also for the chipsets that internally support 3 monitors, how do they connect to the screens, and with what kind of inputs?

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Windows 7 OEM has no "junk", it's just Windows, no manufacturer installed programs. It's a different story if you buy a pc from Dell, HP, etc. Why run a server OS if not running a server.

The motherboard has the video output connections, they vary with motherboard. The ASUS H87M-PRO has these connections:
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What about this fancy trade computer from 1947?

I am sure that @ThatManFromTexas had used it.

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Windows 7 OEM has no "junk", it's just Windows, no manufacturer installed programs. It's a different story if you buy a pc from Dell, HP, etc. Why run a server OS if not running a server.

The motherboard has the video output connections, they vary with motherboard. The ASUS H87M-PRO has these connections:

I found the last answer in this post useful for the differences between W7 and Server: Windows 2008 R2 vs Windows 7 - snappier
However Server is quite expensive. I wonder if W7 could simply be modified/tweaked to get it running similar to Server.

On the motherboard video outs, would there be any with multiple outs of the same type, ie 3 HDMI's? How can know how many simultaneous outputs a chipset supports?

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I found the last answer in this post useful for the differences between W7 and Server

I wanted to build my own so that nothing was loaded onto it other than what I put on it. I had a friend call me, begging me to help him with his computer. I am not a computer guy, but spend enough time on one to be able to fix a lot of things. I picked it up on a Saturday and kept it hooked up here until Sunday night, cleaning things out of it the entire time. In addition to all of the malware / viruses he had, there was so much crap that came preloaded because it was a major brand computer. From what I have seen and read, Windows 7 is not the problem, capitalism is.




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On the motherboard video outs, would there be any with multiple outs of the same type, ie 3 HDMI's? How can know how many simultaneous outputs a chipset supports?

As far as I can tell, all 8 series chipsets (H81, B85, H87, Q87, Z87) will support hybrid multi-monitor. You have to set the bios to start with the integrated graphics, is the simple explanation.

If you go to the motherboard manufacturer website, it will say "Supports 3 monitors simultaneously" in the specifications. At least for Asus and ASRock it does. Here is a lineup of 4 chipsets from Asus

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All but the H81 say "Supports up to 3 displays simultaneously". Why not the H81? Well, it would support 3, if there were 3 video outs...

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but when you look at the mobo, it ouly has VGA and DVI out. So, the Chipset would do the job, but that mobo was not built for it.


Of the four types of video out I have seen on mobos, most only come with 3, with DisplayPort being the one most often left out. That is why I am leaning towards to H87M PRO, just because it has all 4 built in.

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It will only drive 3 at a time, and I have not looked, but I would guess you get either DisplayPort or HDMI since they may share the same channel.

I have not seen any mobos with dual anything. I guess they figure that is not what mobos are for. That is my final dilemma; integrated graphics for 3 extra monitors built in, or save the money on the mobo and the processor, and put in a video card. But so far, the price difference between processors with or without graphics support (at a similar CPU mark) looks like roughly $50, meanwhile a single video card that beats the 3 display potential of the IGP (more than 3 outputs) starts at around $230. So that one extra monitor support at build time would be $180. bad logic. If I was going to do that, the card that supports 6 mini display ports would be the way to go for about the same price, $240ish, but that card has active cooling, which to me is more heat and another part to fail. The 4 monitor card is passive (no fan).

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"To K or not to K?"....locked multiplier CPU's v unlocked CPU's

Recent Intel CPU's are designed to throttle down when speed isn't required (when PC idles even if momentarily) improving efficiency. The maximum speed of the processor is reached only when processing power can be utilized. Intel refer to this as their Turbo mode.

Enthusiast overclocking typically involves running the CPU 24/7 at the maximum frequency the CPU can achieve above is stock turbo speed. This generates a lot more heat, consumes more power and if not tested thoroughly at various fine tuning levels, can lead to system crashes.

However, for users wanting a performance boost without sacrificing stability and reliability (traders??), there is the option to choose conservative dynamic overclocking. All the power saving features are left on and the voltage is not increased. If the PC is idle, the CPU will clock itself down and use a lower voltage. This overclock is simply a faster version of the stock processor.

I just swapped from an Intel Xeon E3-1230 (3.3GHz) Sandy Bridge to a 2600K (3.4GHz) Sandy Bridge (yes, I'm two generations behind, but there hasn't been enough of a performance boost t to warrant upgrading). I was able to increase the turbo mode from 3.4GHz to 4.5 (4.3 when using hyper threading)GHz.
Whether it's NinjaTrader, browser, etc; I can already the notice the improvement in performance, yet have retained the stability and power saving features of a non-o'clocked CPU.

So, I'm a convert - go the K CPU oh, and due to the power saving features kicking in constantly, CPU maintains comfortable operating temps

Conservative overclock shown below

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Gary, this is in no way meant to be condescending... the amount of time you are spending on this v time doing some trades... you could have bought a system that's built like a MAC truck - even if its a bit over the top, you have peace of mind it will do you for a good while without any hassles

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