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Amazon.com: Gigabyte GTX 750 GDDR5-1GB 2xDVI-I/DVI-D/2xHDMI OC Graphics Cards GV-N750OC-1GI: Computers & Accessories


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So, showing how little I know about this maybe, I run 2 monitors now off a 10 year old dual head video card, and a 3rd from a USB to HDMI (but will adapt to DVI or VGA) made by Sabrent (roughly $70). When I looked that card up online, it was around $170. Why not run (2) $40 +/- (or even less) cards to do the same thing? I understand for games, graphics, movies maybe, but trading graphics are not much more intense that the original pong video game.

Is it just that this is the way things are going? Is it that I will have less problems, use less resources? Why not buy two $19.99 cards? Why not use an i7 to push three screens and have the 4th via USB?

This is just to discuss the point, not that I am balking at the price tag. Nor criticizing your recommendations. What started as a simple question on the futures.io (formerly BMT) front page has gotten quite a ride!

1 card = seamless, hassle free, no stuffing around, just want the PC to work all the time

designed a system for trader with 4 monitors -single gpu to run 4 monitors, used an i5 CPU. Despite strict instructions to ONLY use the GPU, husband connected 1 monitor to i5.... was always receiving emails about screen(s) dropping out after driver updates, or windows updates, or just turning back on! This seemed to go on forever as a bandaid "fix" always got things up and running until next time problem resurfaced. Eventually however, they went separate GPU only for all monitor connections - and not a problem since....Except for an Asrock motherboard which died, which is why its best to go for a robust option and not cheap out. AsRock use crap analogue VRM stages, amongst other cost cutting measures. So do the other manufactures, but at least they give you an option for a more reliable option. What you spend extra on the board is less than pulling a PC to bits, sending in a board for repair/RMA, waiting, buying a new board in meantime, and then if and when repair comes back having to offload it somewhere... but i digress...

ever use charts over more than one monitor? try it - its fantastic - when you want smooth cross hairs, or global crosshairs - good card is what you want
ever used DisplayFusion - try it, its fantastic - via icons on toolbar, every chart, browser window, every other app can be positioned exactly where i want it and at the size i want it and i have as many options to choose from



dare say you aren't making most of PC - how 'bout journaling? I use evernote and take screen snippets and paste into evernote - yeah, uses some resources - that's what a good card is for - powerful solutions via seamless operation. What about recording your trading, while running numerous other applications.
how ,bout using a dimming program at times when you want monitors less bright but dont want to stuff with monitor settings (I use professional calibrated settings) - mixture of video cards will cause dramas
what about video - you don't watch the odd trading related clip? news? webinar?? - helps to have a good card when running so many different types of video apps
current system is 3yrs old
number of BSOD I have had in 3 yrs = 0
number of times a monitor has not come on, or the order of screens has been switched in 3 yrs = 0
never ever ever had thoe niggling, how do i fix this? hassles - just a dead solid state drive which was 20 minute fix (it takes no time at all to reinstall OS on solid state if you chuck all your user data on other drives)

anyway, enough of my

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want the 2GB memory version for multiple monitors... if it was gaming it wouldnt be enough, but totally fine for your uses, but 1 GB is not giving you wriggle room

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Yep, that's what I am spec'ing out, considering the Xeon E1230V3 in place of the I-4770K

looking at the CM Hyper 212 Evo for cooling

here you go - robust, anti dust, super reliable, cool running build


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Looks Perfect kickmic !

Thanks so much for sharing that information.

I was not even aware of the Gryphon mobo.

Only 550 W power supply , will that be enough ?

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Looks Perfect kickmic !

Thanks so much for sharing that information.

I was not even aware of the Gryphon mobo.

Only 550 W power supply , will that be enough ?

absolutely - i wrote some stuff about PSU's in this thread somewhere if you want the tech details

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Yep, that's what I am spec'ing out, considering the Xeon E1230V3 in place of the I-4770K

looking at the CM Hyper 212 Evo for cooling

what does the older technology Xeon provide over the newly released i7-4770K series?

in fact the newer mobos are now just bringing up the rear and making a Xeon compliant capable of taking advantage of their uniqueness, and that's long after having released boards in the Z8 footprint / chipset

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what does the older technology Xeon provide over the newly released i7-4770K series?

in fact the newer mobos are now just bringing up the rear and making a Xeon compliant capable of taking advantage of their uniqueness, and that's long after having released boards in the Z8 footprint / chipset

Its not older at all! The Xeon 1230V3 was released at exactly the same time as the i7-4770K. They are both from Haswell family, and only fit the socket 1150 boards.

Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1200 v3 Product Family

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Its not older at all! The Xeon 1230V3 was released at exactly the same time as the i7-4770K. They are both from Haswell family, and only fit the socket 1150 boards.

Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1200 v3 Product Family

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you see.... that's why I called you the Big Dog!,,

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@mike - better watch out, this guy is on the porch, and standing up, so all us dogs out in the field better watch out, 'cause the big dog 'bout to bounce!

Kicks -- that gpu is awesome. Its 3G capable. Why did you say that the display port adapters are better than the legacy DVI ports or HDMI ports?

I have found that something as simplistic as a dual DVI port gpu, stacked in pairs or triplets (4 monitors or 6 monitors in the case of 3 cards) works just as well, with all those seemless screen sharing exercises that you mentioned, however, as far as all those additional utilities and abilities, I've never had to profile each monitor separately, nor when I chose power options to dim the display. let me find a link:

Micro Center - Computers, Electronics, Computer Parts, Networking, Gaming, Software, and more! - dual analog / dual digital

Gryphon, huh?, wow, excellent choice

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