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I hate Windows 8

That is all.

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So I have a new notebook, Asus UX301-DH71T:

Amazon.com: ASUS Zenbook UX301LA-DH71T 13.3-Inch Touchscreen Ultrabook (Blue): Computers & Accessories

Intel Core i7-4558U processor
8GB DDR3L 1600 MHz SDRAM
256GB SSD
2560 x 1440 (WQHD), Sharp IGZO
2 x USB 3.0 port(s), 1 x micro HDMI, 1 x mini DisplayPort

The hardware is a thing of beauty at 2 pounds, ultra sleek, and a total pleasure to work with. But Windows 8.1 is a turd and ruins everything.

I can't just install Windows 7 because of the 2560x1440 resolution, the scaling was only created in Windows 8 (and poorly at that, 8.1 a bit better but still not great). And also pretty much no touchscreen support prior to Windows 8.

So my goal is to try to make Windows 8.1 look like Windows 7 and act like Windows 7, as much as possible, but still retain the scaling and touchscreen controls...

This notebook (plus a 30" LED monitor) is going to be my primary workstation for around 4 months while I wait for my visa residency status to be approved in Ecuador, and then get my container shipped from the states with my hardware. But as it stands right now, I can barely stand to use it...

I am sure people have tried to accomplish what I am wanting to do. Hopefully I can find some articles on it. Or feel free to post them here...

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....great thread

I had a hard time finding a machine running Win 7 pro a year ago when I wanted a dedicated trading
laptop.

I may as well start getting familiar with 8 now, to prepare myself for when I need another.

Hopefully, I can keep finding solid NOS machines running 7 well into the future, but just in case...


All aboard the 8 train!


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How to Make Windows 8 or 8.1 Look and Feel Like Windows 7

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I installed Classic Shell and switched off everything I could related to the Metro interface, and it works pretty much just like W7 - but I'm not using a touch screen, so don't know how it would work with that.

A couple of questions:

How do SC and NT charts look with that resolution? Isn't everything, especially text, tiny?

Also, what are the benefits of having touchscreen on a trading notebook?

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A couple of questions:

How do SC and NT charts look with that resolution? Isn't everything, especially text, tiny?

Also, what are the benefits of having touchscreen on a trading notebook?

I haven't got that far. But no doubt, applications like those two that are not specifically optimized for Windows 8 scaling support are going to be impossible to use. That doesn't bother me to be honest, because I don't use either of those any longer for my day-to-day trading.

As for the touchscreen, all the high end ultrabooks seemed to have touchscreens these days. I didn't go out of my way to not get a touchscreen. That said, I suppose that also means I could just install Windows 7 on it and delete that functionality altogether. My concern with that however is the scaling issue, I don't think it would be a solution because other apps like browsing and Office, Outlook, Excel etc are all going to be impossibly wrong without the Windows 8 scaling.

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You're not the only one who hates Windows 8. There are a lot of people. Which is why Microsoft is already working on "Threshold", their code name for Windows 9. Just like everyone hated Vista and they quickly improved it and put out Windows 7, Windows 9 is a priority for them.

In the meantime, due to the popular revulsion to Windows 8, HP is now selling new machines with Windows 7 again:

HP brings back Windows 7 'by popular demand' - NBC News.com

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You're not the only one who hates Windows 8. There are a lot of people. Which is why Microsoft is already working on "Threshold", their code name for Windows 9. Just like everyone hated Vista and they quickly improved it and put out Windows 7, Windows 9 is a priority for them.

In the meantime, due to the popular revulsion to Windows 8, HP is now selling new machines with Windows 7 again:

HP brings back Windows 7 'by popular demand' - NBC News.com

Woo Hoo!!! HP , my boys !!!

Thank goodness.... I love my HP EliteBook.... I better start scouting out my next HP machine ...

Although the Asus and Lenovo products have me intrigued. I'll have to see how "on-board" these
manufacturers are with Win 8.

Looks like I will be able to hold out and make the jump from 7 to 9.

grazie


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I might make an image of the system, then install W7 and see how far I can get on drivers and touchscreen support, and scaling. It might be better than W8.

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I might make an image of the system, then install W7 and see how far I can get on drivers and touchscreen support, and scaling. It might be better than W8.

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Be careful doing this.

You can make a bootable flash drive but sometimes that is not an exact copy.
The best bet is to make a Ghost image of the drive if you are going to install Windows 7 on the same partition.

Some machines come with a 'special' partition that will not boot windows 8 unless it is running on that selection.
And most vendors do not give you actual CD's to re-install Windows 8.
Unified Extensible Firmware Interface - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Using this UEFI seems to be to prevent pirating the OS.
(Even though they tell you it is used because it makes the OS work better)

I did not like Windows 8 at first.
I started using the 'Desktop' part of the system.
Now it looks and feels close to Windows 7.
I installed the Classic Shell Start Menu to give me the old Start Menu.

At first I opted to "Dual Boot" Windows 7 and Windows 8 on different partitions.
After doing it I got used to Windows 8 and never boot into Windows 7.
Unless I have a program installed on 7 that was not upgraded to 8.

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