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Headless PC - advice needed

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I am planning to buy another PC (for Ninja backtesting/forwardtesting/optimization) and I thought headless PC would be enough.

I was wondering - do you have any advice on the requirements for building headless PC, and which software do you use for communicating that you can recommend.
Do you access them using VNC (and which incarnation of VNC) or other software?

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Greg,

The easiest thing would be to temporarily have a monitor on the box to get Windows installed. You can certainly do a headless install, but it requires experience.

Once Windows is up, you could do VNC or Remote Desktop, TeamViewer, any of those. But I think you'd probably rather do Synergy.

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Synergy is more seamless for this type of thing I think. It's free.

One problem with headless displays is multi-monitor "headless" as in "virtual multi-monitor headless" etc... so it depends on how many monitors you need (how many charts) on your headless box.

I used to do this with a few machines, it was fine.

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Thank you Mike,

I think for now my headless will be fine being just a single monitor display.
From what I've read about Synergy it would be perfect if I could dedicate 1 monitor entirely to the headless, but does it allow to switch the source of display?

My situation is that at the moment I have only 2 monitors and for most of the time I would like to use them both for my main PC, and only from time to time take a peek to see the results or set a new task on the headless. Am I correct in thinking it is not possible with Synergy?

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Thank you Mike,

I think for now my headless will be fine being just a single monitor display.
From what I've read about Synergy it would be perfect if I could dedicate 1 monitor entirely to the headless, but does it allow to switch the source of display?

My situation is that at the moment I have only 2 monitors and for most of the time I would like to use them both for my main PC, and only from time to time take a peek to see the results or set a new task on the headless. Am I correct in thinking it is not possible with Synergy?

I think you can easily minimize it, but to be honest I am not sure.

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Thank you Mike,

I think for now my headless will be fine being just a single monitor display.
From what I've read about Synergy it would be perfect if I could dedicate 1 monitor entirely to the headless, but does it allow to switch the source of display?

My situation is that at the moment I have only 2 monitors and for most of the time I would like to use them both for my main PC, and only from time to time take a peek to see the results or set a new task on the headless. Am I correct in thinking it is not possible with Synergy?

Would a small two-input desktop KVM switch do the trick? Your "first" monitor is always connected to your two headed computer, while your "second" monitor input is selected by the KVM switch. That could save a lot off hassel if it meets your requirements.

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I haven't thought of a hardware KVC before.

I think I will try first with headed installation and VNC and will see how it goes.
My current favourite VNC is UltraVNC ( Ultra VNC : Remote Support Software, Remote Support tool, Remote Desktop Control, Remote Access Software, PC Remote Control ) - these are some of its features (plus it's free):

Key features: File transfer, Video driver, Optional Encryption Plugins, MS Logon, Text chat, Viewer Toolbar, Java Viewer with File Transfer , as well as Auto scaling and Server Side Scaling, Multiple-Monitors-support,Repeater/Proxy-support, Auto reconnection, good performances and tons of other functionalities.

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Just remember things like VNC don't do sound, if that is important to you.

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Just remember things like VNC don't do sound, if that is important to you.

Mike

I think it shouldn't be such a big problem for automated processes like: optimization/backtesting. Thanks for the warning though (I wasn't aware of the sound issue)

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