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Macbook Air with NinjaTrader???

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Thanks @Fadi - do you have right click functionality, please (as far as I can see, this is only possible on a Mac with a keyboard combo, which I don't want : this seems to be my final, deal-breaking sticking point !) ?

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I have an old Mac Book that I have a stripped down version of win7 pro using bootcamp .... I use this rig as a
backup .

I have pretty massive demand going in Ninja, so I can see it struggling a bit. But it works fine.

Your machine is at least 19 times stronger... no worries for you


I like using bootcamp because I want no chance of files getting mixed up ... When I boot the win 7 partition, it is
to trade ,,,


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Thanks @Fadi - do you have right click functionality, please (as far as I can see, this is only possible on a Mac with a keyboard combo, which I don't want : this seems to be my final, deal-breaking sticking point !) ?

Hi
I have right click if I press CMD together to normal mouse click.
I also have middle button click which is very useful in NT7; and this is another reason why I prefer virtualbox to the others...

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One year later.... are you still happy with the Mac > Parallels > NT7 combo, please ie. are there ANY glitches compared with running Ninja on a Windows machine ? Can & do you use right click functionality - I use Chart Trader to enter orders via a right click, so this is essential without having to use keyboard workarounds ?


Hello jtrade!

I have not had any issues to note. I've switched to a different Mac, but no virtualization specific issues that I can speak of, everything has run pretty smoothly for me.

While I still use Parallels routinely everyday with no issues (an am happy with it), it may also be worth looking at a hosted solution such as a co-located server running NinjaTrader. In my opinion this can offer you 'Windows in a Mac' but won't affect your local PC's resources like it would Parallels. The other advantage with this would be the latency and uptime for your trading instance.

The downsides to this are the monthly expense and requiring an internet connection to connect to the hosted server. I use both Parallels and some hosted instances and find they are both more than adequate for most of my needs.

I'm getting more impressed with virtualization performance every day!

EDIT: I also forgot to mention, right mouse click works perfectly fine! I use a regular 'PC style' external mouse and the right click 'just works'. However, on a Mac you can also CTRL + CLICK to replicate a right mouse click functionality.

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If you want to go the virtualization route I would recommend getting VMware instead of Parallels. I am not sure how close they are price wise anymore. Its more stable, faster and a better product. The Parallels' innovation process was copying everything VMware had announced would be in the next release on a tighter release cycle. At least that was the case when I worked there in 08.

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Any suggestions..? Reviews..?

I am looking at some portable laptops for my trading. I am a day trader and mostly trade for 3-4 hours a day. I use Ninjatrader 7 with Rithmic Connection. I use no Indicators. I just use Chart Trader shortcuts to trade from charts.

So anyone still out there in this deserted thread advice me about a Macbook Pro with Windows 7 or 8 and NT Combo.

I am looking to buy a Retina Display Macbook Pro with i5 5th Gen (at least) and 8 GB of Ram and an SSD. How does this fare against other Windows Laptops..?
I will be using the Windows part only to trade and study charts. No other work to keep the registry clean.

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I am looking at some portable laptops for my trading. I am a day trader and mostly trade for 3-4 hours a day. I use Ninjatrader 7 with Rithmic Connection. I use no Indicators. I just use Chart Trader shortcuts to trade from charts.

So anyone still out there in this deserted thread advice me about a Macbook Pro with Windows 7 or 8 and NT Combo.

I am looking to buy a Retina Display Macbook Pro with i5 5th Gen (at least) and 8 GB of Ram and an SSD. How does this fare against other Windows Laptops..?
I will be using the Windows part only to trade and study charts. No other work to keep the registry clean.

I know a guy who has used Macbook's and Ninjatrader for years with VM Ware and Windows 7.....works great...just a lot more money for a lot less computer than a PC laptop.

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You have 2 ways to use it

1st: Paralles or VMWare running in your Mac OS X session. If you dont have crazy ALGOs running, it will be fine to handle.
2nd: Bootcamp ... you are booting the MacBook like a Windows Laptop, no MAC OS X is running same time ... it is like you have a Windows Laptop, only your hardware is much better.

I am running a MacPro with Bootcamp and Windows 10 ... with Bloomberg, own software, NT7 & NT8, TWS, Motivewave ... all the same time without any issues.

Only condition using Boootcamp on a modern MacBook or Mac .. you have to use Windows 10 ... no older OS is supported anymore.

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You have 2 ways to use it

1st: Paralles or VMWare running in your Mac OS X session. If you dont have crazy ALGOs running, it will be fine to handle.
2nd: Bootcamp ... you are booting the MacBook like a Windows Laptop, no MAC OS X is running same time ... it is like you have a Windows Laptop, only your hardware is much better.

I am running a MacPro with Bootcamp and Windows 10 ... with Bloomberg, own software, NT7 & NT8, TWS, Motivewave ... all the same time without any issues.

Only condition using Boootcamp on a modern MacBook or Mac .. you have to use Windows 10 ... no older OS is supported anymore.

In a pickle now. I have found a good deal on Pro as I am totally tight on budget (even by $50). But I have a few licensed copies of Windows 7 and 8 but no Windows 10.
VMWare or Parallels will add $70 at least to the cost. Same with Windows 10 if I want to buy a copy.

And ideas...?

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Hi There
I have an iMac 24" from 2009 and still running perfectly well with my setup too
To make it short, it is a 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB 667MHz DDR2 SDRAM and running OS X 10.9.3 nowadays.

I have virtualbox installed and a win7 Home Premium edition installed.
I stopped using Parallel or VMware Fusion long time ago: I prefer the simplicity and functionality of virtualbox from Oracle, plus it is a free open source software!

My setup is running IB TWS in native Mac OS X environment, and NT7 in win 7 together with MS Office and some other win softwares.

My trading platform connects to my broker API via IP addresses (networking btw the virtual machines) and I've never had any issue.
I rarely run optimisations, backtests, etc.. in NT7, but I have around 7 charts opened at the same time when trading with various time frames, instruments, etc... the real-time feed data of course, then two market analyser windows, one T&S, one Level 2 and the SuperDOM windows!

I allocate 2GB to the virtual machine and I experience no issues for my trading style and configuration.

Cheers
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More info on Virtualbox please. And it works with x64..??

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