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Zoe,

Although, I'm not an advocate for a custom-built system for trading activities, an Intel-based system should add more quality and performance to the desktop system. Also, a 128GB or 256GB solid-state drive should suffice (instead of the 1 TB HDD); the SSD don't have moving components; they are faster, more reliable, and they consume very very little power.

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Actually, the AMD gives more bang for the buck. I've been using an AMD processor and motherboard with my current 5 year old box and had no issues. One pays a premium for the Intel brand, all other things equal.

SS drives are too expensive considering the alternative. They are where flat screen tvs were 10 years ago in terms of price performance. I use a RAID system now and don't want to give that up. Also, I've never had a hard drive fail (knock on wood).

If this computer were purchased from a Dell, HP or other branded manufacturer, it would be much more expensive than the $1300 I'm paying which includes the cost to built and test it.

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Actually, the AMD gives more bang for the buck. I've been using an AMD processor and motherboard with my current 5 year old box and had no issues. One pays a premium for the Intel brand, all other things equal.

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The prices are pretty attractive; the 955 will sell for $245 (and it already has been) and the 945 will go for $225. That pits the 955 against Intel’s Core 2 Duo Q9550 ($266) and the Core i7-920 ($284), the latter having a much higher motherboard cost of course.

Unless you’re running applications that are very well optimized for Intel’s architectures, the Phenom II X4 955 is faster than the Core 2 Quad Q9550. Compared to the Core i7-920, it loses hands down although the chip does come close in some games.
AnandTech: AMD's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition

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The prices are pretty attractive; the 955 will sell for $245

$160.99 at newegg.

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Cory that AnandTech's an awesome site...thanks!



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The prices are pretty attractive; the 955 will sell for $245 (and it already has been) and the 945 will go for $225. That pits the 955 against Intelís Core 2 Duo Q9550 ($266) and the Core i7-920 ($284), the latter having a much higher motherboard cost of course.

Unless youíre running applications that are very well optimized for Intelís architectures, the Phenom II X4 955 is faster than the Core 2 Quad Q9550. Compared to the Core i7-920, it loses hands down although the chip does come close in some games.
AnandTech: AMD's Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition


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Any plans to overclock Zoe?



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Here is what I decided on:

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor

ASUS M4A79XTD EVO AM3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard

8GB GSkill PC3 10600 DDR3 1333mhz RAM

1TB (2x 500GB) Western Digital Caviar Black Internal HDD

XFX HD-575X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5750 1GB Video card

Antec P183 Case

650W Antec PSU

Thermaltake A2384 Noise Dampening Kit

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders

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Any plans to overclock Zoe?

No. I think this is fast enough for the trading apps and I don't want the additional heat generation either. My experience with overclocked trading computers didn't result in much of a difference in realworld use.

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I'm thinking about replacing the video card since it's really for gaming and it's also sold out at most places I shop.

Feel free to recommend an ATI card to support three 21 inch monitors.

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You got me curious Zoe and I'm trying to learn more of this stuff and found this for 3 monitors but its a pricey gamers card:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

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For running multiple monitors, two video cards would work.. and you'd have an extra output for a 4th monitor if you wanted to add one later.

Since ninjatrader makes absolutely no use of 3d acceleration and is not likely to any time soon, you'd be just as well off with a couple of entry level cards at $60 to $120 each as you would be with a more expensive card.

I think the processor is the only thing that will give you a noticeable performance boost. The video card and hard drive speed will probably not matter at all. RAM speed does not matter at all either in my experience, although you want plenty of it.

Motherboard stability is also worth paying more for, which is an argument for spending the extra dollars for a good motherboard. You might want a motherboard that is designed for heavy useage such as for servers or serious workstations.

I would stay away from RAID 0. The performance boost is negligable and your chance of hard drive failure increases exponentially. You will be just as happy with a simple cheap hard drive as you would be with anything more expensive.

SSD drives are not worth it either. I have one and the performance boost is not noticeable at all for trading.

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You got me curious Zoe and I'm trying to learn more of this stuff and found this for 3 monitors but its a pricey gamers card:

Newegg.com - SAPPHIRE 100282SR Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card w/ATI Eyefinity - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Yeah, that's a step up from what I didn't want. It's a gaming powerhouse card and besides, you have to get a display port cable to hook in the third monitor which adds about $75.

I have been using two Nvidia GT9500 cards in the current box and they are really adequaite except for the fan noise. The new box has to run super quiet, that's one of my requirements, so I'll probably go with two cards with passive cooling.

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