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I'd like to know if anyone here is using a cloud service.

My idea is to simply store all my data from Multicharts, Sierra, all sort of documents that we now receive in pdf format, Outlook files, images, music, EVERYTHING!!!

I keep several copies of my data but sometimes I just forget to update all those copies and many times when I need to update my laptop with a certain MC indicator and I'm out of the office and none of the copies I have are with me at that moment... well, you get the point...

I'm also always thinking if I lost the pen, or the backup drives just go bust, or the DVDRW get lost... a cloud where all can be stored is a very good idea.

Any thoughts?

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Try Google Drive, 5GB free, and not very expensive to get more space.

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If you want a simple and easy to use cloud file storage, then google drive (the ToS are a bit iffy I think), amazon cloud storage, or dropbox.

Amazon EC2 + EBS if you want to build your own solution.

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Try Google Drive, 5GB free, and not very expensive to get more space.

My concern on this type of Services are the clauses that expose my contents kept in their custody ... have a look @ the following clause in Google Drive's Terms and Condition/Terms of Service;

"Your Content in our Services

Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.

You can find more information about how Google uses and stores content in the privacy policy or additional terms for particular Services. If you submit feedback or suggestions about our Services, we may use your feedback or suggestions without obligation to you."


This is one of the reasons for my stopping my DropBox service.

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My concern on this type of Services are the clauses that expose my contents kept in their custody ... have a look @ the following clause in Google Drive's Terms and Condition/Terms of Service;

"Your Content in our Services

Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours.

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content. The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones. This license continues even if you stop using our Services (for example, for a business listing you have added to Google Maps). Some Services may offer you ways to access and remove content that has been provided to that Service. Also, in some of our Services, there are terms or settings that narrow the scope of our use of the content submitted in those Services. Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.

You can find more information about how Google uses and stores content in the privacy policy or additional terms for particular Services. If you submit feedback or suggestions about our Services, we may use your feedback or suggestions without obligation to you."


This is one of the reasons for my stopping my DropBox service.

Lolu


This is really worrying....

I really don't care about my MC and SC data and others being able to access it but the other stuff, photos, pdf documents, even music, I cannot allow other to access it.

The problem is that I'm sure all services have these same service terms. In a way I can understand since we are in the era of data piracy but then again, allow access to all type of data is always troublesome...

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If you are referring to a means of backup, multiple have been discussed here:

https://futures.io/tech-support/16528-disaster-strikes-backup-your-data.html

I use iDrive and recommend it. You will need to modify the defaults to backup media files.

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This is really worrying....

I really don't care about my MC and SC data and others being able to access it but the other stuff, photos, pdf documents, even music, I cannot allow other to access it.

The problem is that I'm sure all services have these same service terms. In a way I can understand since we are in the era of data piracy but then again, allow access to all type of data is always troublesome...

If privacy is a major concern, then it does not make much sense to upload the private content to such cloud services.

There could be some alternative methods like -
1. Create your own small cloud "setting up a server which fulfills your requirements. I have seen some guys on youtube who have made the home based servers quite cheaply. You may wish to google a bit about home based servers, if this option seems practical to you.
2. Uploading the content after encrypting it so that only you could decrypt it and use it. But it will be time consuming and I have not tried it practically.

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I use two different services for cloud storage.

IDrive, and JungleDisk. For JungleDisk I store the data on RackSpace servers.

Both of these services use two different password schemes. You can chose between the regular password service, which allows them to recover your password if you forget it. Obviously this means there employees could possibly access your data.

The second is an encryption password set up. In this one the have a strong warning that if you lose your password you are out of luck, they have no way to retrieve it. So while someone can theoretically get your data it is encrypted and if you use a strong password, you are safe. This is what I do.

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I use JustCloud seems not bad and price reasonable.
They always offer 70% discount.

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