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I'm just after some feedback on specific components that I have selected to use to build a new workstation. My current workstation has developed intermittent motherboard I/O issues so it's time to build a new one from scratch. I can reuse …
It paid for me to let my local independent computer store build a trading computer for me . It wasnt much more money compared to ordering it online or going to best buy . It paid because the guy that built it understood exactly what my needs are and if I have a problem or question I can call him directly and take care of it immediately without confusion or a run around . Ninja updates often and uses more than 1 core so a computer thats suitable now may not be in the near future therefore it pays to get personalized service from a computer tech .
I'm happy with mine, nothing too fancy but pretty good bang for the buck with I7 processor , what a difference from dual core, I waited a long time too
I have had one of these for a bit and I have no complaints, especially because it was very reasonably priced, I've always built my own , but this last time when going through pricing etc... I couldn't get it down to what they were offering complete …
"Successful trading is one long journey, not a destination" Peter Borish Former Head of Research for Paul Tudor Jones speaking on conversations with John F. Carter
However, I would suggest building one yourself. It is not hard to do and you can get more bang for your buck and replace your own parts. You do not have to be a techie to learn how to do it.
Also multiple cores will not help you much in live trading but will help immensely in backtesting. So get as many cores as possible if doing alot of backtesting.
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you can always rebuild the OS and eliminate all the crapware... no matter which vendor... but yes, Lenovo provides solid systems... I only use their laptops and none other.
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The issue is a lot of OEM's these days don't provide original OS media. Only "restore" media, to use their secondary partitions on your HDD which take up wasted space and all that crapware is still there.
Finding an OEM that includes original media is rare.
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Family Pack - 3 PC in one household
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This is another place I was looking t before I went with ZT , they have decent deals too, you can choose all of your own components and get feedback on what works well together and what does not that is within your budget you set , on their forums https://www.ibuypower.com/
IMO building self is not as cost saving as once was, unless you have parts and or OS you want to use , I priced many different ways including building but between Motherboard, CPU , memory , case and OS you get more for the money by getting a complete system at least if you are upgrading from an older design where many parts are obsolete
The good thing about doing something like IBUY POWER is you can substitute hard drive for SSD , choose power supply, video card etc..
also looks like they are giving a free upgrade to six core I7 , which I imagine is pretty nice
"Successful trading is one long journey, not a destination" Peter Borish Former Head of Research for Paul Tudor Jones speaking on conversations with John F. Carter
I was just going to say what @GridKing mentioned below... one can always buy the OS at a discount online when purchasing other components that make the cost cheaper... but I see your point.
I buy most of my computer components from newegg.com.
I read customers' product reviews at Newegg and buy the best computer components (case, power supply, motherboard, processor, RAM and input devices) I can afford at the time.
That means:
1. Every 4-5 years or longer, I buy the best (expandable) computer case and the most powerful power supply available. Input devices like CD-ROM and DVD drives are fairly inexpensive and I upgrade them on this time schedule, too.
2. Buy/replace hard drives when I need to; always trying to increase size and reliability,
2. Every 1-1 1/2 years, replace the processor, motherboard and RAM with the emphasis on MORE speed and MORE capacity.
I used to assemble computers myself, but to save time (and to get a fully tested computer) I've found a local technician at a local computer servicing company who assembles and tests them for around $200....all depending on time spent. And, I can call him anytime for help. Find a local technician who can do the same for you.
With this approach, I get better components and a fully-tested machine that's upgradable for less than any comparable fully-assembled computer available online or at a retail store.
Jim
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I got an iMac just to see what all the hype was about and quickly became somewhat attached to it.
I had absolutely no intention of getting rid of my Winblows trading computer. After a couple of months of playing with virtual machines and running the trading software on the iMac, I was thoroughly enjoying multiple Winblows virtual machines and the built-in UNIX command line. (grin)
It is absolutely not for everyone, and for myself, I found the learning curve to be pretty darn steep.
The result is that I can have a completely different Winblows virtual machine running connected charts and order entry in about 1 minute if the active machine has a problem. Of course if the iMac fails, the Winblows machine goes down with it, so a trading backup is still a necessity, don't you know.
Therefor, if veriety is the spice of life for you, as it is for me, I invite you to give the iMac a close look.
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I bought a Falcon F-15 computer from Trading Computers and it is a lemon. I have had nothing but trouble. I would not recommend them. They have good tech support, however. But they have not been able to make this thing work and I've spent 20-40 hours with their techs on the phone over the past year. Their product is more expensive than other mfgs I have looked at. The best that I've seen is EZ Trading Computers. They are about 1K less and have better componests that the Falcon from Trading Computers. I'm going to buy one from EZ Trading Computers and throw this Falcon in the trash. It cost 3 grand.
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I have changed my mind about Falcon. They sent me a replacement computer that is better than the one I bought. My warranty expired but the problems existed before the expiration. So they have worked with me past the warranty, paid all shipping, send new hard drives and memory chips, and finally, a better computer as a replacement. The never charged anything extra. You can't get that kind of support out of Dell or HP. I am now a loayl Falcon customer. EZ computers is a good choice also.
-Duck-
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I'm actually now looking at getting one of the Origen 17 inch laptops...anyone else have any experience with Origen? Everything I read about them online is just A+!
I think its better to custom build your computer rather than buying a pre configured system from the shop. Firstly you can choose the components that are only necessary for you, and you can also save some money just for the brand names like Dell, HP, IBM etc etc.
The only thing I don't mind buying pre-configured is a laptop which I use on the go.
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It paid for me to let my local independent computer store build a trading computer for me . It wasnt much more money compared to ordering it online or going to best buy . It paid because the guy that built it understood exactly what my needs are and if I have a problem or question I can call him directly and take care of it immediately without confusion or a run around . Ninja updates often and uses more than 1 core so a computer thats suitable now may not be in the near future therefore it pays to get personalized service from a computer tech .
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I never understood why traders thought they needed to buy "trading computers" from trading computer company's. Traders should always be looking for value, so the last thing they want to do is pay twice the price for a "trading computer".
$1000 gets you a pretty decent build these days( even by gaming standards), and most new( decent) graphics cards support 4 monitors. Even an average gaming computer could easily run anyone's home setup....
Yeah for sure, buying off a vendor is a great idea if you have no clue about computers, however I still can't see the need to go buying off some "trading computer" specialist. Just buy from a local vendor, or off Ebay.
