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IMHO the best you can get for trading: EIZO S2243.
22", resolution 1920x1200, S-PVA panel.
I use two of them since 6 months.

Never ever use a 24" (or even a 27") model with 1920x1080 for trading, you would regret your decision.


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Would you explain why you think this pls.

Facts:
- The number of pixels determines how many details you can get.
- The view field of humans is restricted to a fixed angle.

Assumptions (valid for me):
- You want to get as many informations from your screen as you can get
- You want to change the position of your head / neck as seldom as possible
- You have to react fast (at least concerning daytrading)
- Your desk size is restricted

The consequence is that a high PPI number gives an advantage.

Of course, a resolution of 1920x1080 is for the masses, so cheap. But whenever this resolution is fine for you, just choose the smallest monitor size you can get.
And for 1920x1200, the mentioned EIZO S2243 is the smallest.

When you get a 27" (on 1920x1080) monitor you get less details than me with my 22" (on 1920x1200).

Side note:
Of course, a 30" with 2560x1600 is also great. It has nearly the same PPI than my 22". But I prefer to use two (or more) 22". And 30" monitors are not cheap either.

I hope this clarifies my opinion. For working with PCs with other purposes, other assumptions may be right. For programming or office purposes I prefer to use 1600x1200 on 21"/22".
As German as my native language, some words may not be perfect, but you may get the thing.

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Never ever use a 24" (or even a 27") model with 1920x1080 for trading, you would regret your decision.


Would you explain why you think this pls.


Oh, I happen to be walking in Best Buy and I saw this crystal clear 27" monitor, and like all successful marketing ads, it got me thinking hmm, that would look really nice on my desk...more real estate and it would make reading bigger fonts less stressful on my eyes.

So, I decided to ask the members regarding their opinions on having a large size monitor(s)....thanks for replying.

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If money allows:
buy IPS Panel
1200 pixels on vertical and not 1080. 1440 is even better

I have 27 inch iMac, it's 2600x1440 or so. Some programs where you can't change font size might be problem to read,
For 2600x1440 I'd recommend 30 inch.

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If money allows:
buy IPS Panel
1200 pixels on vertical and not 1080. 1440 is even better

I have 27 inch iMac, it's 2600x1440 or so. Some programs where you can't change font size might be problem to read,
For 2600x1440 I'd recommend 30 inch.

An iMac might be a great computer, but IMHO not for trading. It uses a glossy screen, which might be nice for presentations or watching films, but not for being concentrated while staring at your screen. And daytrading means a lot of screentime, so my suggestion is clear: always choose an anti-glare display. Unfortunately, most consumer display nowadays are glossy, so be careful with your choice.

IPS panels are great, and S-PVA (in general: VA) panels might be superior for trading. The contrast is better, black is "deep black".

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An iMac might be a great computer, but IMHO not for trading. It uses a glossy screen, which might be nice for presentations or watching films, but not for being concentrated while staring at your screen. And daytrading means a lot of screentime, so my suggestion is clear: always choose an anti-glare display. Unfortunately, most consumer display nowadays are glossy, so be careful with your choice.

IPS panels are great, and S-PVA (in general: VA) panels might be superior for trading. The contrast is better, black is "deep black".

In overall I have 4 monitors and that of iMac is the best to look at. On my PC I have two 24 inch Samsung (PVA with perfect black) and Hans.G (TN). I bought them specifically for trading, both NON-glossy. Yet to my surprise, they are much worse than that of iMac. Even when you let sun into your room, they are even worse. I can't see poo. That film filter is just crappy. They reflect light in big matt spots and on these spots you can't see anything.

When I used to have a 2007 version of iMac (those 20 inch), my older iMac, I removed the glass with a toilet plunger (it's on magnets) and the glossyness was gone. You can do the same on the new iMac if it has to be.

Yes, glossiness seems to be the worst thing, because it reflects all kidns of stuff, but if you compare it to non glossy ones, it is still better. And if you remove the glas, there you have the best monitor.

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I've used 5 Samsung 20 inch monitors, and an LG 30 inch monitor every day for the past 7 years without any issues. I highly recommend Samsung displays, and their OLED displays in phones are also really awesome.


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Amazing

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@jmaurice, what kind of monitor stand are you using?

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In overall I have 4 monitors and that of iMac is the best to look at. On my PC I have two 24 inch Samsung (PVA with perfect black) and Hans.G (TN). I bought them specifically for trading, both NON-glossy. Yet to my surprise, they are much worse than that of iMac. Even when you let sun into your room, they are even worse. I can't see poo. That film filter is just crappy. They reflect light in big matt spots and on these spots you can't see anything.

When I used to have a 2007 version of iMac (those 20 inch), my older iMac, I removed the glass with a toilet plunger (it's on magnets) and the glossyness was gone. You can do the same on the new iMac if it has to be.

Yes, glossiness seems to be the worst thing, because it reflects all kidns of stuff, but if you compare it to non glossy ones, it is still better. And if you remove the glas, there you have the best monitor.

No, using toilet accesories to pimp a monitor is not an option to me.

I have been working in front of pc monitors since about 20 years, mainly as a programmer, since about 3 years as trader. Glossy is not an option for me, neither for any professionals, definitely. Glossies are looking great at first sight only.
And please, don't compare a HannsG (or any other) TN panel just to say an IMac panel is brighter/better/whatsoever.

Another argument against iMacs or any other all-in-one concepts: a good monitor can be used for 2 or 3 PC upgrades.
Buy the best panel yo can get (PVA or IPS), and it will last for many years.

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@Big Mike
I'm not sure who makes the stand, but you can buy it from digitaltigers.com - I copied my monitor design from one setup they used to sell, and I found the same monitor stand pipe system in a shop in Tokyo.

The stand is basically just a bunch of very strong metal pipes. Sorry for the blurry photo.

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