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This should be good for pushing NT7 to the limits...

18.4" screen 1920x1080
Intel Core i7-720QM processor
8GB RAM
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
1GB Nvidia card
Blu-Ray
Win7 Professional 64-bit

This is really a mobile desktop replacement. I do a lot of freelance .NET/SQL/Web programming/consulting and often work at my client's offices so I like to have something akin to a desktop with me wherever I go.

I usually get Dells and I ordered one in October but they kept screwing up and canceling my order that I just gave up on them

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jealous...envy....just first words that come to mind.

This is really a mobile desktop replacement. I do a lot of freelance .NET/SQL/Web programming/consulting and often work at my client's offices

uh-huh....it's for work. We get it. The specs sound more like a gaming computer to me...

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uh-huh....it's for work. We get it. The specs sound more like a gaming computer to me...

No doubt, this would be a great gaming machine. LAN PARTY! But those days are past. I used to spend countless hours playing Quake, Doom, etc, and also played many RTS games like Warcraft, Starcraft, Age of Empires/Mythogy, Red Alert/Command & Conquer. Now, at the ripe old age of 40, I spend my late nights gaming the market instead Actually, when I do game it's usually something on the Wii with my kids, or some casual game (Plants vs. Zombies, various tower defense games) or something on my iPhone. Now, I avoid anything rated M, I don't want to play anything I don't want my kids (9 year-old triplets) to play or see me playing and I don't want me/them to be de-sensitized to the violence.

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This should be good for pushing NT7 to the limits...

18.4" screen 1920x1080
Intel Core i7-720QM processor
8GB RAM
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
1GB Nvidia card
Blu-Ray
Win7 Professional 64-bit

This is really a mobile desktop replacement. I do a lot of freelance .NET/SQL/Web programming/consulting and often work at my client's offices so I like to have something akin to a desktop with me wherever I go.

I usually get Dells and I ordered one in October but they kept screwing up and canceling my order that I just gave up on them


not to bust your bubble, but you could have bought the same resoultion in a 15.6" form factor, in fact that was what I was considering, because the latest and greatest laptop bags do not go above the 16" sizing, including those new airport screener carry bags.

either way, the specs you gave are available for huge discount on the Alien-PC form factor that Dell now sells and the Taiwan fabricator that supplies both major outlets and rebranding outlets. Clevo is that fabricator. The only differences between these machines are the bells and whistles, such as keyboard lights and back lit color schemes and such.

either way, have fun and report back on what its able to do....

oh, its not the size of the screen but the pixel-ation factor, the highest that I have seen is 1920x1200, of course there are higher on fixed monitors, but we're talking laptop luggables....

curious why you chose Win7 pro over the baseline version?, not significant difference, and not likely you're going to node your laptop for very long periods of time to make a difference with the configuration changes necessary to compensate between the software versions...

curious why you spent on 8gb also instead of the baseline 4gb?, the 64bit & i7 combination won't allow most things to remain memory resident very long before returning to a pause state, as those 8 processors literally shread the workload, unlike any quad processor before it....

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not to bust your bubble, but you could have bought the same resoultion in a 15.6" form factor, in fact that was what I was considering, because the latest and greatest laptop bags do not go above the 16" sizing, including those new airport screener carry bags.

either way, the specs you gave are available for huge discount on the Alien-PC form factor that Dell now sells and the Taiwan fabricator that supplies both major outlets and rebranding outlets. Clevo is that fabricator. The only differences between these machines are the bells and whistles, such as keyboard lights and back lit color schemes and such.

either way, have fun and report back on what its able to do....

oh, its not the size of the screen but the pixel-ation factor, the highest that I have seen is 1920x1200, of course there are higher on fixed monitors, but we're talking laptop luggables....

curious why you chose Win7 pro over the baseline version?, not significant difference, and not likely you're going to node your laptop for very long periods of time to make a difference with the configuration changes necessary to compensate between the software versions...

curious why you spent on 8gb also instead of the baseline 4gb?, the 64bit & i7 combination won't allow most things to remain memory resident very long before returning to a pause state, as those 8 processors literally shread the workload, unlike any quad processor before it....

The Dell I originally ordered was a 16" but, if you read my blog link, Dell kept canceling my order because of problems on their end so I gave up on them. I like that size better as these 17"+ sized laptops are pretty heavy and bulky. I'm willing to give it a try though.

I've never heard of Alien-PC. I'll have to check it out. I also want to get a light 13.3" notebook for meetings or quick mobile situations while my 18" is docked at the office all attached to monitors and other external devices. I'm considering a 13" MacBook pro as I am now Mac-less (sold my 3+ yr-old MBP to my sister) and I like the Mac for certain things (LAMP, Ruby on Rails, iPhone development, iLife slide shows for my wife who is a photographer, etc) but I'm waiting for another rev of the MacBook pro line, hopefully with new Core i7 chips so I'm holding off on that for now. The last rev of the MBPs was in June.

I chose Win7 Pro because I often work at my client's offices and need to attach to their domain. The Home version doesn't support attaching to Windows domains. Plus, I often develop websites on IIS and I know with XP and Vista didn't support IIS so I've always stayed away from the Home versions for that reason as well.

I maxed the RAM out because, well, because I can! I thought it was a decent price to do so. I hate disk thrashing/VM swapping so I usually max out the RAM when I can. Also, sometimes I have some really big SQL databses running so MySQL or MS SQL can use up a good chunk of RAM.

As for the screen resolution, most of these newer laptops now are all 16:9 aspect ratios, hence the 1920x1080 screen (instead of 1200 height). Plus, 90% of the time this thing will be attached to a 26-28", 1900x1200 2nd monitor, keyboard and mouse and the notebook is the secondary display.

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The Dell I originally ordered was a 16" but, if you read my blog link, Dell kept canceling my order because of problems on their end so I gave up on them. I like that size better as these 17"+ sized laptops are pretty heavy and bulky. I'm willing to give it a try though.

I've never heard of Alien-PC. I'll have to check it out. I also want to get a light 13.3" notebook for meetings or quick mobile situations while my 18" is docked at the office all attached to monitors and other external devices. I'm considering a 13" MacBook pro as I am now Mac-less (sold my 3+ yr-old MBP to my sister) and I like the Mac for certain things (LAMP, Ruby on Rails, iPhone development, iLife slide shows for my wife who is a photographer, etc) but I'm waiting for another rev of the MacBook pro line, hopefully with new Core i7 chips so I'm holding off on that for now. The last rev of the MBPs was in June.

I chose Win7 Pro because I often work at my client's offices and need to attach to their domain. The Home version doesn't support attaching to Windows domains. Plus, I often develop websites on IIS and I know with XP and Vista didn't support IIS so I've always stayed away from the Home versions for that reason as well.

I maxed the RAM out because, well, because I can! I thought it was a decent price to do so. I hate disk thrashing/VM swapping so I usually max out the RAM when I can. Also, sometimes I have some really big SQL databses running so MySQL or MS SQL can use up a good chunk of RAM.

As for the screen resolution, most of these newer laptops now are all 16:9 aspect ratios, hence the 1920x1080 screen (instead of 1200 height). Plus, 90% of the time this thing will be attached to a 26-28", 1900x1200 2nd monitor, keyboard and mouse and the notebook is the secondary display.

shodson,

I have a MacBook 13.3" (black), a MacBook Pro 17" (pre-December 2008 release), and a 42" LCD TV/monitor; and I'm enjoying them all. I still have to reluctantly use Windows on my Macs (specifically and only because of NT) using VMWare Fusion, and all these are working for me very very well. I want to be Window-less, I don't want to be locked in a gate either; I'm Unixy; I'm Mac-full !!!

So, don't hesitate on Mac; go for it as soon as the new Mac series are out (very likely to be December).

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I'm mulling over getting a new desktop to trade using three existing Samsung 920N screens.

Any ideas with specs from you folks is greatly appreciated.

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This should be good for pushing NT7 to the limits...

18.4" screen 1920x1080
Intel Core i7-720QM processor
8GB RAM
500 GB 7200 RPM HDD
1GB Nvidia card
Blu-Ray
Win7 Professional 64-bit

This is really a mobile desktop replacement. I do a lot of freelance .NET/SQL/Web programming/consulting and often work at my client's offices so I like to have something akin to a desktop with me wherever I go.

I usually get Dells and I ordered one in October but they kept screwing up and canceling my order that I just gave up on them

What did you pay for this machine?

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I'm mulling over getting a new desktop to trade using three existing Samsung 920N screens.

Any ideas with specs from you folks is greatly appreciated.

Build your own, get x64 Windows 7 with at least 4GB of memory, a cheap dual-DVI video card, and a fast processor like i7 920. There is another thread about this here. You can do it for well under $1,000 and get plenty of horsepower. Or you can keep adding more memory, etc, but as for what NT7 or trading needs, anything more than above is just 'icing on the cake'.

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What did you pay for this machine?

Post 3 has the invoice.

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I'm mulling over getting a new desktop to trade using three existing Samsung 920N screens.

Any ideas with specs from you folks is greatly appreciated.

Hi Zoe,

If you can hold off on the next release of Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server (which expectedly should have up to 8GB RAM), then it will be "worth the wait". I'm holding off to have one too, as my desktop (I don't currently have a desktop). Snow Leopard Server is a full 64-bit OS. You can pump in your Windows 7 (for NT7 only) or Windows XP using VMWare Fusion ($80) or Parallels ($60) and have peace. Current Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server configuration is $999.

On the other hand, if you want to build a PC, then build an Ubuntu Linux + Virtual Box (all free stuff) machine, if you can.

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Hi Zoe,

If you can hold off on the next release of Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server (which expectedly should have up to 8GB RAM), then it will be "worth the wait". I'm holding off to have one too, as my desktop (I don't currently have a desktop). Snow Leopard Server is a full 64-bit OS. You can pump in your Windows 7 (for NT7 only) or Windows XP using VMWare Fusion ($80) or Parallels ($60) and have peace. Current Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server configuration is $999.

On the other hand, if you want to build a PC, then build an Ubuntu Linux + Virtual Box (all free stuff) machine, if you can.



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What did you pay for this machine?

About $1600 after shipping, tax, and CA recycle fee

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Hi Zoe,

If you can hold off on the next release of Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server (which expectedly should have up to 8GB RAM), then it will be "worth the wait". I'm holding off to have one too, as my desktop (I don't currently have a desktop). Snow Leopard Server is a full 64-bit OS. You can pump in your Windows 7 (for NT7 only) or Windows XP using VMWare Fusion ($80) or Parallels ($60) and have peace. Current Mac Mini + Snow Leopard Server configuration is $999.

On the other hand, if you want to build a PC, then build an Ubuntu Linux + Virtual Box (all free stuff) machine, if you can.

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I don't think you can hook 3 monitors up to a Mac Mini, he'd have to get an overpriced Mac Pro.

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I don't think you can hook 3 monitors up to a Mac Mini, he'd have to get an overpriced Mac Pro.

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outstanding!

its not surprising that most people don't understand half of your reply or my questions to you. its a pleasure to see the other half...

I noticed the invoice and the $200 savings, and I would have gone for the 50% off the memory too, if I were offered it at checkout.

You've got me wondering which website to go to now, other than Clevo, Prostar and nVidia / Acer. now I am going to regress back to HP and see!

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I noticed the invoice and the $200 savings, and I would have gone for the 50% off the memory too, if I were offered it at checkout.

Whenever I buy a name-brand PC I always look around the net for coupons. Just Google "HP coupons" or "Dell coupons" and you'll find a bunch of sites that offer coupons for various PC box makers. That search saved me $200.

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outstanding!

its not surprising that most people don't understand half of your reply or my questions to you. its a pleasure to see the other half...

I noticed the invoice and the $200 savings, and I would have gone for the 50% off the memory too, if I were offered it at checkout.

You've got me wondering which website to go to now, other than Clevo, Prostar and nVidia / Acer. now I am going to regress back to HP and see!

thanks,

hope to chat again soo

Did you ever get that laptop?

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Did you purchase the HP laptop? If you did, have you ever had any problems with the screen not turning on? I have a HP laptop with Windows 7. At first everything was great. But lately every time I turn on the laptop the screen would be blank. I turned it in for service and was told it was a driver problem and that Windows did not recognize it. They reloaded the drivers and it worked, at least for the next few weeks. Now I am having the same problem again. Anyway I was told that certain drivers are not recognized by Windows 7.

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I don't think you can hook 3 monitors up to a Mac Mini, he'd have to get an overpriced Mac Pro.

Ninja works slow on my Mac(2.5 processor speed +4G of Ram) + Fusion.....

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Ninja works slow on my Mac(2.5 processor speed +4G of Ram) + Fusion.....

Pava,

Allocate 1.5GB RAM to Fusion/Windows. This means that you are left with 2.5GB for the MAC OS X. This is the settings I have on my MacBook Pro (17"). I also have a 2GB RAM MacBook (13.3") with Fusion/Windows allocated with 0.8GB RAM. I have Ninja running very well and satisfactorily fast on these two machines.

Meanwhile, increasing the RAMs of both machines would make the performance of both Fusion/Windows and MAC OS X to be much much better. I'm planning to increase my RAMs.

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I thought I would chime in on this one: I have been very disappointed with using laptops for trading , even high-powered ones. Even with a fast CPU and lots of RAM, laptops just seem inherently slower for some reason. My $4000 alienware laptop is is fairly fast for a laptop, but it is nowhere near as good at running ninjatrader or other demanding software as the $1000 tower PC I bought around the same time.

The other sucky thing about laptops is they require special drivers issued by the maker - the standard motherboard drivers, video drivers, etc will not work. Laptops also don't allow you to use extra cooling options in case you are going to be running your cpu hard.

In case anyone is considering Alienware, I would also like to mention that Alienware support sucks bigtime; they do not even bother to make current drivers available for users who bought their laptop in the past. I reinstalled windows just after my 1-year warranty ended, and I had to spend hours searching through forums on other sites to find the right drivers. Alienwere tech support would not even answer me.

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Did you purchase the HP laptop? If you did, have you ever had any problems with the screen not turning on?

Are you asking me? Yes, I have been successfully using the laptop for over a month now and am happy with it. I've never had any problems with the screen.

I don't trade with it, though I'm comfortable doing so if I needed to, but I do use Ninja a lot on it to watch/analyze the market and for indicator and strategy development, as well as back-testing.

I am running Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit version on it. It's taken me a while to get used it's size due to the 18.4" screen but it looks great. It's not as mobile or portable as smaller ones, but most of the time it's exactly what I need.

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Pava,

Allocate 1.5GB RAM to Fusion/Windows. This means that you are left with 2.5GB for the MAC OS X. This is the settings I have on my MacBook Pro (17"). I also have a 2GB RAM MacBook (13.3") with Fusion/Windows allocated with 0.8GB RAM. I have Ninja running very well and satisfactorily fast on these two machines.

Meanwhile, increasing the RAMs of both machines would make the performance of both Fusion/Windows and MAC OS X to be much much better. I'm planning to increase my RAMs.

Lolu

Thank you...one more question...how do I go about allocating memory...I have done it long, long time ago...and completely forgot how to do it...can't find the "how' in Help...

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Thank you...one more question...how do I go about allocating memory...I have done it long, long time ago...and completely forgot how to do it...can't find the "how' in Help...

Pava,

Launch VMWare Fusion and select/click on Settings. This will popup a dialogue window containing all the settings you can make on Fusion. You'll select Processors & RAM since you want to set the RAM. Selecting Processor & RAM pops another dialogue window where you can make new setting for the RAM (See attached snapshots).

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 Pava 
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Pava,

Launch VMWare Fusion and select/click on Settings. This will popup a dialogue window containing all the settings you can make on Fusion. You'll select Processors & RAM since you want to set the RAM. Selecting Processor & RAM pops another dialogue window where you can make new setting for the RAM (See attached snapshots).

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 rainbowchaser 
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Are you asking me? Yes, I have been successfully using the laptop for over a month now and am happy with it. I've never had any problems with the screen.

I don't trade with it, though I'm comfortable doing so if I needed to, but I do use Ninja a lot on it to watch/analyze the market and for indicator and strategy development, as well as back-testing.

I am running Windows 7 Professional, 64-bit version on it. It's taken me a while to get used it's size due to the 18.4" screen but it looks great. It's not as mobile or portable as smaller ones, but most of the time it's exactly what I need.

Hi guys I know this thread was written long ago but trading from laptops is like a an actual topic for me...how does it work to trade with a 4G connection instead of being hotwired like we do from home/office ?
I do work in Contsruction Supervision and do have some available time in the morning and after lunch and want to invest in the machine and the toys to get connected via a Verizon plan.
When asked, the people at AMP mentioned they have lot of customers that trade from not hot wired connections and from remote areas.
Any thoughts/suggestions?

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Hi guys I know this thread was written long ago but trading from laptops is like a an actual topic for me...how does it work to trade with a 4G connection instead of being hotwired like we do from home/office ?
I do work in Contsruction Supervision and do have some available time in the morning and after lunch and want to invest in the machine and the toys to get connected via a Verizon plan.
When asked, the people at AMP mentioned they have lot of customers that trade from not hot wired connections and from remote areas.
Any thoughts/suggestions?


No way I would even consider trading from a 3g or 4g connection. I don't manual trade but if I did wifi would not even be acceptable to me. Bad latency and and reliability problems can end your trading career. If you have an auto strategy on a remote server not bad to use a mobile connection to check on it when needed but to actually try to place trades over that connection is asking for trouble. Amp may have customers who do it but does not mean it is a good idea. Amp like many brokers also have many customers who blow up accounts. Sounds like they are just telling you what you want to hear to get you to open account. A broker looking out for your interests would tell you it can be done and some do it but would discourage it in my opinion.

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