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I have a Logitech 5.1 speaker system in the office, I wouldn't want speakers on my monitor.

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Mike, thank you.

Is there a particular reason you wouldn't want speakers on your monitor? Most certainly external ones can be more robust... I was thinking that it would be nice to free-up of desk surface area without them, but realize that they can be small and placed elsewhere..

If you don't mind, do you make use of trading alerts, audio specifically? I'm guessing one would also need corresponding visual alerts to know what exactly was triggered, on what monitor screen...

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josh, here's the HP 24 incher for about 300 bucks:

Amazon.com: HP Promo LA2405WG LCD Monitor.: Electronics

I found-out that it does portrait and landscape. I'm thinking I might want to try at least one monitor, if not all, turned such that they are taller, having for vertical real estate.

The more I read what you said, I agree that a larger monitor means that your neck, head, eyes need to be on the move more. Have a hard time not thinking of a tennis match, lol.

So, I'll spare you a link of the 1080 27" monitor...

There are a couple posts on this forum where someone states that having an HDMI port would desirable as going forward, that is the likely standard.

Here's a brief review on this model. The knock on pricing is less of an issue now, a year later. The stand is highly flexible.

Would the lack of speakers be an issue or deal-breaker for some traders? I'm thinking that alerts (audio) would be nice in certain instances....

HP LA2405wg Review & Rating | PCMag.com

Looks promising, and I forgot to mention that the base is important as well, and it appears this monitor can be raised vertically, which, surprisingly, some monitors cannot do. I ditto what Mike said--I don't have surround, but I have stereo speakers with a subwoofer (they're about 7 years old and perform like new!), and I wouldn't recommend speakers on the monitor as they often are not very good.

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Keep in mind the stand on the monitor will not be important if you plan to make use of a dual or quad monitor stand instead. Also keep in mind that quad monitor stands don't support portrait mode (that I know of).

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Thought I would post to this thread again since I just got another monitor.

I originally went to Micro Center and got a $150 (on sale) Acer monitor. It was 23", 1920x1080, and a good bargain. I wall mounted it (just above my two landscape 24" gateways I described earlier), and was relatively happy with it for a while. But there was one big problem that I just couldn't let go: the viewing angle was pretty bad. Slight changes in my head position would make the charts practically unreadable.

So, on black Friday I noticed Dell had a sale on the UltraSharp U2412M 24" monitor. It was $300, with free shipping (IIRC). It had everything I wanted: good viewing angle (I would suppose most any regularly $400 monitor would), VESA mountable, good desktop stand in case I wanted it on the desktop and ability to rotate to portrait, and best of all it is a 1920x1200 resolution just like my other gateways. The extra 1920x120 pixels (that's about 10% extra space) really does make a difference to me. To top it off, it connects VGA (like anyone cares but still), DVI, HDMI, and DisplayPort. I use an ATI card to connect all 3 to my system and extend the desktop across all 3, and the third monitor must be connected via DisplayPort. While I'm using a DVI to DP adapter to connect the Dell, it's nice to know that DP is supported natively on the monitor.

The viewing angle is great, and it blends in so well with my other monitors (viewing angle and color). Overall, I would not want to have anything less than this monitor. When my gateways finally give out, I anticipate buying something like this Dell to replace them with. Hope this mini-review is helpful to anyone considering a new monitor.

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Yup another vote for the U2412's. I have five of them and discussed them here:

https://futures.io/tech-support/7451-hardware-lust-trading-pc-6-monitors.html

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Yup another vote for the U2412's. I have five of them and discussed them here:

https://futures.io/tech-support/7451-hardware-lust-trading-pc-6-monitors.html

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I have gone through, lets see, 12 - 15monitors in the last 3years. My family is happy. I keep giving them used perfectly functioning monitors every 6months or so. Samsungs, Acers, HP, one Dell (not the Ultrasharp type) and LG. I now know I will never buy another Samsumg. Color saturation sucks. My favorite is the HP Brightview with HDMI (any size)....yes the screen is glossy and often a pain in the ass with a gazillion reflections from every light bounce but the vivid production and most importantly the deepness of blacks is unmatched. You ask why that is important.....put a chart on with black backgorund and light colored canadles and you will be converted. 12hrs on staring at that screen is effortless.

My current setup has the stacked 22" IPS panel LG's in the middle and even the IPS LCD prodcution will not match the HP Brightview. I watch movie or a moving video and the IPS panel shows it strength but for charting nothing beats an HP Brightview.

Thats another thing, with IPS panels getting cheaper, no way I'd buy another cheap TN panel again. Not worth the eyestrain.

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A vote against Dell U2412

I have just bought a new workstation and also need a couple of good 24'' monitors to replace my Samsung monitors that have come of age.


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I have had a look at the specs of several monitors, and I have also had a look at the U2412 by Dell. It has a superb design and possibly produces excellent images , but there is a major problem. The power consumption is 75 Watts. As I need at least three screens, this adds up to 225 Watts. No idea how this screen could have ever been awarded an energy star.

Compare this to the P2210 by Dell, which is a 22'' monitor and has a power consumption of 22 Watts. 3 monitors would add up to only 66 Watts.

Now let us calculate the annual impact of the different power consumptions per year. I use my monitors for about 3,000 hours per year, a simple calculation shows

-> 3 P2210s would save me 159 * 3,000 / 1,000 kWh = 477 kWh per year
-> this is about 11% of the annual power consumption for my entire family
-> the annual cost at current rates for that power consumption is $ 150.
-> over the lifetime of the monitors (5 years) the additional cost for 3 of those monitors is $ 750.
-> the environmental balance of those Dell monitors is a desaster, and I won't be happy using them, although I like the design


What do I really need

I think that the engineers and the marketeers of companies like Dell are completely irresponsible. They sell you something sexy, and in the end what do you get for your money? Something your really do not need.

Now let us have a look at the specs:

My old Samsung: brightness 300 CD/m2, Contrast Ratio 700 : 1, power consumption 38 Watts
Dell P2210 : brightness 250 CD/m2, contrast ratio 1,000 : 1, power consumption 22 Watts
Dell U2410: brightness 400 CD/m2, contrast ratio 1,000 : 1 *), power cosumption 75 Watts

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&cs=19&l=en&s=dhs&sku=320-8277&~tab=specstab
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&cs=04&sku=320-8103&baynote_bnrank=1&baynote_irrank=0&~ck=baynoteSearch

*) dynamic contrast ratio 80,000 : 1 (whatever this means )
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I Do Not Need an Electric Heating

I am fine with the quality of my old monitors, so I know that I do not need more than the specs of those. Temperatures sometimes go beyond 0F here, but I have an efficient central heating. I do not want to purchase electric heating equipment, which runs round the clock during summer.

So I am probably better off, with a TN panel. I do not need IPS. I do not want to be exposed to 225 Watts all day long (in the end it is all heat), but I am happy to sit it front of 75 Watts or 100 Watt TN panels. I do not consider the heat and the flickering of IPS panels an advantage, even if they produce sharper images.
And I Love to Save $ 800 on Three Monitors
And I will probably save $ 300 if I purchase 3 TN panels instead of IPS panels, and I certainly will save another $ 500 over the next five years, if I am not buying those Dell U2410 monitors.

Savings of $ 800, a better conscience and the comfort of not burning my front and be exposed to the smell of a hot monitor, that is what I will go for. By the way, the graphics adapters used to feed those monitors are 2 passively cooled dual-display FirePro 2270 cards, each of them consumes less than 10 W per hour (15 W maximum consumption). Professional 2D cards not built for the purpose of gaming, but certainly well suited for a trading station with up to 4 monitors.

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Yeah, except with lower quality monitors, over the course of 3 years you may save a few hundred dollars, but you will kill your eyes, and have to have eye surgery done, and it will cost you twice as much as you have saved...




In all seriousness, good points, but I like my Dell. It's that simple--if a monitor is outstanding, it doesn't really matter.

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My five U2412M's put out less heat that my four Acer 22's they replaced. I am extremely happy especially considering the price/value.

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LG IPS231P have LED/IPS panel with pivot and max 30W consumption.

If you dont need pivot there is a lot of choice in powersaving/cool/silent LED monitors also with TN displays.
I am satisfied with my TN LEDs, colourwise and viewingangle wise of course IPS is better (i use one for multimedia), but for just reading and charting TNs are OK and they also have the lowest possible latency.

I think this year AMOLED displays will enter the market, id go for those next year or so.

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