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@ Tiberius: Don't waste your time with this BrainTrend indicator. It will not run correctly, but rather let explode your CPU.

Thanks for the heads up. I deleted the BrainTrend.cs from my NT7 and this thread.

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any questions????

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any questions????

what a day, huh? I'm marking up my chart now, I did not trade (follow) it as well as I could, but did great. How well did you actually trade? Are you following?

Have you settled on your method? Still tinkering?

I see you are using bigger bars for higher (timeframe). I like that too. Have you given up on the time charts? What is the value of (how do you use) the different indicators on differnt time(range)frames?

How do you plan to wrap up your contest thread? 1 week left and then the holiday.

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what a day, huh? I'm marking up my chart now, I did not trade (follow) it as well as I could, but did great. How well did you actually trade? Are you following?

Have you settled on your method? Still tinkering?

I see you are using bigger bars for higher (timeframe). I like that too. Have you given up on the time charts? What is the value of (how do you use) the different indicators on differnt time(range)frames?

How do you plan to wrap up your contest thread? 1 week left and then the holiday.


Thursday was indeed an exiting day. But I couldn't get into sycn with the fast market on the open, waited to 9:45 EDT, no trend change. There were charts all over my desktop buried two or three deep. I was watching the YM and not the 6E. So that is why I created and posted that template in my journal. I didn't trade because I had a conflict with what I was thinking and what I was seeing. When we had the 100 pt melt-up in a few minutes yesterday afternoon I was in the backyard.

Right now I am following the YM and 6E.

I am using this method, the TripleColor for the multi-hour trades as you can see on the 6E chart. For the multi-minute trade I prefer your @ rpm123 method. I am still tinkering with identifying chop, early warning for a potential trade, and a trade exit with being premature.

With one week to go in the contest thread; I will continue to answer questions. "Thank you, Patrick for asking them." And next week I will be trading the 6E around the clock (starting 3:00 AM EDT, Monday morning)as I start watching the 6E Sunday evening. I will be using the trades to review this method and repost the rules.

Image 1: the current TripleColor trades on the 6E
Image 2: I was in the backyard on the melt-up
Image 3,4: this morning a rainbow is in my front yard, and the other end with the pot of gold is in my office.

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very zen waterfall, you should set up your office out there, since you have your own rainbow and all

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Image 1: the current TripleColor trades on the 6E

On the 8 range, did you post what that was in panel 2 and 3? I'm finding the 3 color solution a winner. Thanks

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On the 8 range, did you post what that was in panel 2 and 3? I'm finding the 3 color solution a winner. Thanks

@rpm123 : panel 2 is the force index and panel 3 is the DMplus indy. I posted the template here:

The TripleColor strategy is great. Blue...long, red...short. All one has to do is to adapt their trading style to enter and exit the triple color trade. My style for the short term trade is to take the break-out after the first pull back on a triple color trend change. And I find this trade easy using Perry's method 1, so I put the above in panels 2 & 3. So, maybe I improved his method because the backdrop is the TripleColor.

The chart images are on my other computer. For the several break-out trades I took on both the 6E and YM, Friday morning, I was 100%.

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Interesting Tiberius. I was posting how one may go about finding better trades using the Perry Method. There are just so many trades that pop up, and without some context, it seems like a crap shoot.

I'm interested in what you've got going here.

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a TripleColor trade


I am short, I waited for the bar to close for the TripleColor red......................... I am using the M6E instead of the 6E, because I am going to sit back and relax and let this trade play out. I will be either stopped out or close the trade out as the triple color conditions change.


I will post more as the trade develops........................

Okay, one and a half hours later..............a failed trade.....after being +11...closed it out -6. Color conditions changed, got a white bar followed by a white bar that closed red and then I let the market stop me out on a tight stop on another white bar.

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While I was editing the last post on my laptop, I took this sim trade on my other computer. Sim traded because I was busy with the other.

I tried to take a Perry's method 1 short on the TripleColor (red) 4 range chart while the 8 range chart was TripleColor blue. The trade failed. The trade before was a blue and blue winner.

Just thinking out loud.

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While I was editing the last post on my laptop, I took this sim trade on my other computer. Sim traded because I was busy with the other.

I tried to take a Perry's method 1 short on the TripleColor (red) 4 range chart while the 8 range chart was TripleColor blue. The trade failed. The trade before was a blue and blue winner.

Just thinking out loud.

Bummer on the trade. Been a tough day after the initial runup, in the ym at least.

Question - how are you using the force index indy or are you?

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Bummer on the trade. Been a tough day after the initial runup, in the ym at least.

Question - how are you using the force index indy or are you?

When you do a Perry method 1 trade the Force index indy is suppose to be colored in the direction of the trade. I anticipate the indies for Perry's trade so the force indy doesn't always paint the way you want.

Just simmed another Perry trade TripleColor red 4 range winner with a TripleColor red 8 range.

I will get the (M)6E on the next TripleColor. I am trading through the Asian into the European sessions.

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The image has three charts of the price action of today's YM. A 20 range, 8 range and 5 range. I simmed traded the 5 range in the direction of the two larger charts. It was a day to be long and that's how I traded. The long side, the TripleBlue, had the momentum and that of the larger charts. It's your trading style, you decide.

I was so busy with the 5 range chart, that I missed a nice @rpm123 trade on the 8 range.


As for the 6E, I missed an explosive breakout, TripleColor blue in the Asian session and I slept through the start of the European session. For me, right now it's tough to be there, wide awake at 3:00 AM EDT. But I will get there, I believe the 6E and the European open is a key to success. Just ask Charles Booth.

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For me, right now it's tough to be there, wide awake at 3:00 AM EDT. But I will get there, I believe the 6E and the European open is a key to success. Just ask Charles Booth.

Success is also having a life better than the 9 to 5 grind. 3am is a tough wake up call. Reading some of the threads you pointed me towards. Perry, Charles, Sharky. Thanks.

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Hi all my fellow futures.io (formerly BMT) members and welcome back to the final hours of this active contest thread. I started this contest to learn an idea I have been toying with for several months. In the beginning I guess I called it the KISS strategy, but as the weeks passed it adopted the official name of the TripleColor strategy. At first because it was about KISS and that was about the TripleColor. The three colors on a chart. Blue or Red for taking a trade. The bar, the background and the zlema. You didn't have to read an indy, just see the colors.

I just finished the Al Brooks webinar. I listened to what he had to say about trading. And? And the TripleColor strategy is about trend, and maybe pullbacks; or at least resuming the trend after a pullback. If it is something else then it is your trading style. And it is about an idea, a strategy and how you can employ it in your trading. Check out the images, the charts....how can you employ the strategy? Study it.

When I employed the TripleColor strategy for myself, I enhanced the background to a two tone background using the SharkChop indy. I want to trade the dark part of the background. @ rpm123 likes to trade a SuperTrend strategy and will enter the trade if he has the TripleColor edge. What is your strategy? Can the TripleColor be an added edge for you?

If I didn't have to take so much time learning and adapting this strategy for myself. I would of had more time to demostrate this strategy live. Maybe that's what the month of July is for. Anyhow i was up at 3:45 AM EDT and the 6E was a bust today........but it was all Greek to me.

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Your contest thread hit home for me at first because you used the SuperTrend, one of my faves, but then the thread showed me the rigor that needs to go into developing and testing a strategy. You've gotten more creative than I in finding indies and combining them in new ways. And really working to understand them.

You've presented some great templates and methods that I have dutifully "stolen" and and experimented with too. And putting measurable routines and rules around them.

I have been much more of a seat of the pants trader too. I thought I was putting the work in, now I am, thanks to your roadmap of what that really looks like.

I'm learning your methods and appreciate your efforts in sharing and teaching.

Happy 4th of July to you. I'm taking a couple weeks off (started already) and coming back recharged. Thanks gain for your time in this thread.

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Your contest thread hit home for me at first because you used the SuperTrend, one of my faves, but then the thread showed me the rigor that needs to go into developing and testing a strategy. You've gotten more creative than I in finding indies and combining them in new ways. And really working to understand them.

You've presented some great templates and methods that I have dutifully "stolen" and and experimented with too. And putting measurable routines and rules around them.

I have been much more of a seat of the pants trader too. I thought I was putting the work in, now I am, thanks to your roadmap of what that really looks like.

I'm learning your methods and appreciate your efforts in sharing and teaching.

Happy 4th of July to you. I'm taking a couple weeks off (started already) and coming back recharged. Thanks gain for your time in this thread.

Thank you Patrick for being a part of this contest thread. It was your participation that help spur many of my ideas and indy combos. At some point that's when I knew that this strategy was best utilized when it was adapted to your (anybody's) trading style.

I wanted to write a whole rule set, been since the TripleColor strategy is best part of anybody's trading style, the trader will have to complete the TripleColor basic rule set:

BLUE go long.
Red go short.
Let the price (signal) bar along as with the background and zlema paint before entering the trade.
And best to trade on the trigger bar in the direction of the signal bar.

That's about it. Happy 4th and happy trading.........................Tiberius

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This chart has been on my desktop all week. But I failed to see it's simplicity until now.

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This chart has been on my desktop all week. But I failed to see it's simplicity until now.


hey tiberius... but did you take any trades off it..

Looks like a $$$ maker...

well I wish you good

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This chart has been on my desktop all week. But I failed to see it's simplicity until now.

What is the simplicity that you see in it? Is there anything better about this than the other templates you've experimented with?

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hey tiberius... but did you take any trades off it..

Looks like a $$$ maker...

well I wish you good

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That's just it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I didn't. I made a few chump change trades off a sister chart on the other side of my 40" monitor. This chart has been squashed into the right of my screen all week. I just widened it out.

I am going to put your #s on it tomorrow. Thanks Tiberius

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What is the simplicity that you see in it? Is there anything better about this than the other templates you've experimented with?

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is too just enter the market on all red or all blue, and set my stop to the SuperTrend line. Then when the stoch on the bottom indi breaks from the OB/OS zones....tighten the stop or get out or scale out.

Is this better than the others? Yes, because I like the intermediate trend; I don't think this template will work on a shorter period. No, I have a super template on TOS, that I can't duplicate in NT7. And no, the d9 doesn't paint correctly in "calculate on close" = false; that leaves the last price column d9 empty. And maybe, because I am working on some great ideas with the other templates.

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is too just enter the market on all red or all blue, and set my stop to the SuperTrend line. Then when the stoch on the bottom indi breaks from the OB/OS zones....tighten the stop or get out or scale out.

I'd like to take a gander at that template if you don't mind, it looks interesting for sure.

Are you thinking of trading say just the first move that happens after a color change, or all successive ones as well?

And do you make any distinction between say the light blue and dark blue, or would you treat them both the same?

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I'd like to take a gander at that template if you don't mind, it looks interesting for sure.

Are you thinking of trading say just the first move that happens after a color change, or all successive ones as well?

And do you make any distinction between say the light blue and dark blue, or would you treat them both the same?

@ forrestang

I put a (white) chop zone on the d9. The "trade" is to wait for the darker color. But I am willing to enter in the lighter colors if price has clear the d9 chop zone or is clearing it; which means I am getting a crossover in the ZSharkChop zone. This template has not been tested, but I am going to do it live with the M6E; scale in and out with 2 contracts. I will take a successive, if the ZiNon is the constant color dot and the stoch is turning back to the OB/OS zone. And lastly I may add the GW_TriDiff and/or TradersDynamicIndex indicator to this template to see if I can get a better exit.

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who are interested............here is the last modification of the above template. It is true that I have a killer indi on TOS that I need coded for NT7, but until then. The general rules are: get in on the TripleColor, get out on the TriDiff crossover. The specific rules are to understand and respect what the three bottom indi's are telling you.

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who are interested............here is the last modification of the above template. It is true that I have a killer indi on TOS that I need coded for NT7, but until then. The general rules are: get in on the TripleColor, get out on the TriDiff crossover. The specific rules are to understand and respect what the three bottom indi's are telling you.

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Great chart. Could you tell me what indicator your using in panel 3 (the one in the middle) on the above chart??? Also the current settings for that indicator.

Thanks for sharing,

Rick

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Hello@ Tiberius,
Great chart. Could you tell me what indicator your using in panel 3 (the one in the middle) on the above chart??? Also the current settings for that indicator.

Thanks for sharing,

Rick

Rick: @ trs3042, from top to bottom: price panel, GW_TriDiff, ZSharkTrendStochChop, d9POV2. Check image for settings, if I have the right indy. Mikie

found the NT7 indy from TOS: updated template

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Rick: @ trs3042, from top to bottom: price panel, GW_TriDiff, ZSharkTrendStochChop, d9POV2. Check image for settings, if I have the right indy. Mikie

found the NT7 indy from TOS: updated template

That's what I needed.

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