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Saw my first ever UK TESLA chargepoint here Tebay Services | Westmorland at the weekend, also happens to be the best services on the UK motorway network.

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Who actually pays for those charging stations, Tesla, the government? I thought the owners can use it for free, but somebody still has to install and maintain them.

Also, what happens when there are more EVs and you have to wait for others too, not just your recharging???

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Who actually pays for those charging stations, Tesla, the government? I thought the owners can use it for free, but somebody still has to install and maintain them.

Also, what happens when there are more EVs and you have to wait for others too, not just your recharging???

Cripes. You'll be saying that aeroplanes can't fly or metal ships can't float next. Guessing they started somewhat smaller too. Boris has the same problem with the bikes in London, it's a real problem when folks want to use too much of your product, can't think how that might be solved!

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Who actually pays for those charging stations, Tesla, the government? I thought the owners can use it for free, but somebody still has to install and maintain them.

Also, what happens when there are more EVs and you have to wait for others too, not just your recharging???

Tesla pays, for life, as of now. An incentive of buying the car. The supercharger stations are also getting retrofitted with battery swaps, which can be done in 3 minutes or something like that by the automated robot. Video in this thread.

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Cripes. You'll be saying that aeroplanes can't fly or metal ships can't float next.

I mean seriously. Just answer my question. Now they throw these supercharges in as freebies because they want to make it popular, but if it really gets popular (price of car, hello?) the free for all goes away.

Making a hybrid, or a cheapshit car like the Indians do with a 1L engine and no extras just plastic makes more sense for a commuter car at this point.

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I mean seriously. Just answer my question. Now they throw these supercharges in as freebies because they want to make it popular, but if it really gets popular (price of car, hello?) the free for all goes away.

I did.

Seriously - because I think you massively underestimate the technological progress that our children will see in the next century that will make even the changes of the last 20 years seem like small fry.

Practically - because there will be serious problems and hiccups like you mention to solve along the way, but there is no better mechanism than the free market for doing so. Whether we get back to having one is of course an open question. Thousands of companies like Tesla and SpaceX are sure as hell giving it a good go.

And tongue in cheekily - because your general negative attitude to all topics and posters had irked me in another user's journal. I apologise for that - I should be more mature - but I really would like to see what a positive Pedro loves and likes and does and wants to share?


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Making a hybrid, or a cheapshit car like the Indians do with a 1L engine and no extras just plastic makes more sense for a commuter car at this point.

I guess that's why the same company build Jaguars and Landrovers then? See, I just can't help myself.


Off Topic out of Closet Footnote: (Except that sadly I think it will likely be in parallel with the death and destruction of the current financialised empires, much like the end of the Roman one. The gaps between have's and have not's will continue to grow, wars over resources are likely. However I think the world will get through, unless Duncan's right and the power grids go down in the next year or two then I'll go back to being my original Prechter/Olduvai inspired end of the world permabear self as well. For now I'll stick with a Fourth Turning generational blood on the streets passage to come in parallel with new positive long term Gann cycles starting.)

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Seriously - because I think you massively underestimate the technological progress that our children will see in the next century that will make even the changes of the last 20 years seem like small fry.

I don't know. This peak oil and peak water and peak anything kind of questions everything, unless we have a nice worldwide epidemic whipping out a nice chunk of humankind.


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Practically - because there will be serious problems and hiccups like you mention to solve along the way, but there is no better mechanism than the free market for doing so.

Oh the free markets! By the free markets Tesla wouldn't even exist. The government gave them the first start up loan that now is owned by Goldman Sachs. Their biggest competitor went out of business. So much about free markets...

One more point, the oil/car lobby would kill the electric car if the government wouldn't protect the idea....


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It is called reality, get on with it...

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About switching batteries. It is like switching horses in the Wild West. I have a really good young horse, and should I leave it behind for an old, slow, dying buck? The same deal if I have a brand new battery in my Tesla and they just switch it for a 5 years old crappy one.

But of course it is my negative attitude what the problem is.

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About switching batteries. It is like switching horses in the Wild West. I have a really good young horse, and should I leave it behind for an old, slow, dying buck? The same deal if I have a brand new battery in my Tesla and they just switch it for a 5 years old crappy one.

But of course it is my negative attitude what the problem is.

Too bad you don't read, or you wouldn't reach such baseless decisions. I provided info in this very thread on this very subject that tells you exactly how the process works. Which is not at all how you have described it.

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Tesla's Model S factory is full of advanced robotics - TechSpot




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Tesla Motors has been turning heads lately with the new Model S electric car. A few weeks ago, Tesla CEO and founder Elon Musk showed off a battery swapping station that can change the battery in a Model S faster than it takes to fill up a tank of gas.

This week, we get to look into the Model S factory in Fremont, California, courtesy of Tesla and Wired. The video, embedded below, shows the stunning process a Model S goes through on the factory floors, starting as simple giant spools of rolled up aluminum.

Tesla’s manufacturing plant is putting out 400 cars a week--more than ever before for Tesla, but a relatively small number compared to major automakers. What’s truly awesome about the plant is the level of automation incorporated into the process.

Tesla bought the factory from Toyota in 2010, and spent the subsequent year and a half retooling the line with 160 robotic mechanics that assist the 3,000 line workers in every part of the assembly process.

The video briefly documents the process from raw material to completed assembly, and nearly every part of it is done in house at the Tesla factory. The giant articulating arms dwarf their human counterparts, and move in optimized patterns of motion to work as efficiently as possible.

A Model S takes about 3-5 days to make it to the end of the manufacturing process, and is a work of art by the time it rolls onto pavement. Check out the video below.



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