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Trend Indicators

I've been trying to search for more information on three different zero lag trend indicators without much success, so I thought I'd post a request. I would like background summary articles of them. The three indicators are:

The Clear Method
Ron Black's “Getting Clear With Short-Term Swings” described in September 2010 issue of Stock & Commodities (Pg. 18-21).

Instantaneous Trend
Outlined in John Elder's books "Rocket Science for Traders", "Cybernetic Analysis for Stocks and Futures", "Mesa and Trading Market Cycles".

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Does anyone have information on the development concepts of these indicators?

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If you are looking for an indicator to tell you in a timely manner, when a market is trending or not, I think you first need to mull over the implications of such a program.

I've gone through all of Ehlers stuff, may years ago and found that it wasn't anything more than an exercise in mental masturbation on his behalf. He's a sound wave guy, the markets move up & down so you should be able to apply digital signal processing techniques on market waves right? You can do it with sound, so why can't you do it with the waves of the market? You sure can do it. It has nothing to do with trading though...

With the trend/chop thing - you just can't know ahead of time. If you could, you would be in a position to pull money out of the market at will. You'd know whether to take a breakout or fade it, just based on that bit of code. You wouldn't even need to be there to trade, you could just set a simple program to trade it.

I offer this opinion because on the surface, a trend indicator seems a simple thing to do. It sounds like one component of a larger trading system and it absolutely does not sound like the holy grail of trading. In reality, a working trend indicator that could identify the transition from trend to chop in a TIMELY MANNER would actually be the holy grail of trading.

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If you have an answer to my question, please don't hesitate to reply.

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