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Here's a site that may be of use to long term dividend investors.

Dividend Reinvestment Calculator

For Canadian stocks you have to add the “.TSX”

US stocks just enter the sysbol

BMO = BMO.TSX

AGF.b = AGF-B.TSX

BYD.un = BYD-UN.TSX

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this is a very useful site for me....thanks

Unless I am doing something wrong though I cannot look at the return of a stock's dividend for the period that I have held it...I can only look at it from the point at which it first starts.

wait a minute...perhaps it is because I chose a start date when I bought the stock....not the first dividend date from my purchase.

5 mins later...

That was it!! you cannot chose just a random date...it has to start on a dividend payment date

What a great tool for me!!!! I owe you a beer

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I don't have any problem with different start dates.


FP,TSX for instance shows a different return depending on whatever date you input.

The only problem I found was the income trusts that converted back don't show much data.

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well it was that way for me....try CPG.TSX from Jan 1 2013 and you will get a message to select a new start date and no data....enter Jan 15 2013 and it works

I have had Riocan for a long time but it won't accept it's stock symbol REI/UN or REI.UN .... aha!!! it is REI-UN.TSX

that works

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well it was that way for me....try CPG.TSX from Jan 1 2013 and you will get a message to select a new start date and no data....enter Jan 15 2013 and it works

I have had Riocan for a long time but it won't accept it's stock symbol REI/UN or REI.UN .... aha!!! it is REI-UN.TSX

that works

I'm guessing that Jan 1 is a holiday so there is no quote for that day. Jan 2 works.

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I'm guessing that Jan 1 is a holiday so there is no quote for that day. Jan 2 works.

that must be it.

the site is not documented very well and I ran some tests to see if I could match the results they were getting.... and I could not.

So I sent a message to them to ask for clarification on some things and this is what I found

1. the calculations work very much like you are running a DRIP on your dividend paying stock

So say you were investing $10,000 (entered into the BOXyou are now worth

2. So say the stock was worth $9.25 a year ago and paid $0.12 monthly as a dividend. So with $10,000 and shares costing $9.25 you would have purchased 10,000/9.25 = 1081 shares and had $0.75 left over

3. at the end of the first month you would have $0.12 x 1081 = $126.24 in dividends + $0.75 = $126.99

the shares then are worth $9.35...so you would buy $126.99/9.35 = 13 shares and have $6.09 left over.
The new shares are added to the 1081 previous shares, so now you have 1094 shares

4. at the end of the second month you would have $0.12 x 1094 = $131.28 in dividends + $6.09 = $137.37

this time the shares fell in value to $9.00...so you would buy $137.37/9.00 = 15 shares and have $2.37 left over.
The new shares are added to the 1094 previous shares, so now you have 1109 shares.

and so on for the months of the year

the number of shares are increasing as the dividends are being converted to new shares and added to the previous totals....so you are in fact COMPOUNDING your dividends

the value of the 10,000 initial investment is calculated by determining the value of the shares you now hold at the end of the period.

I am currently running a test on Canadian dividend paying stocks here are some of the results I have gotten:

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so you can see what would happen if you invested $10,000 on a particular stock 5, 2, 1 year ago.

ATR is the Annualized Total Return

I owned Automodular [TSX:AM] for a while a couple of years ago and did well on it for a year...they make diecast metal parts for the Automobile industry...I sold the stock when they lost their sugar daddy contract with Ford....I never had a tool like this and it clearly shows I should have reinvested the dividends and held on.....the reinvested dividends + capital gains still produce 42% in the last year....wow...I forgot about them

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I guess that Ford contract did not mean a heck of a lot in retrospect....

AND THEY SAY $1 -$5 stocks are a waste of time....

I am going to continue this analysis and see what other gems pop up....

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1. the calculations work very much like you are running a DRIP on your dividend paying stock

Unfortunately I spend my dividends.

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Unfortunately I spend my dividends.

So have I in the past....But with the use of this tool I am rethinking this practice....especially in something like a TFSA or RRSP

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So have I in the past....But with the use of this tool I am rethinking this practice....especially in something like a TFSA or RRSP

I never liked DRIPs; always thought I could find a better entry than the day the dividend was paid. That being said I usually reinvested my dividends in whatever stock I thought would do better rather than in each individual stock. Probably the wrong move but it gave me a semblance of control.

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I think that this article and conclusions are very misleading.

They are looking at only one aspect of comparison of high yielding dividend stocks and Non-yielding stocks...that is share price appreciation. You are not supposed to buy the High yield stocks for the share price appreciation ... that is the bonus bubble,

High yield dividend stocks are a buy and hold stock for the money it generates....IF you reinvest those dividends back into the stock you are essentially compounding the "dividend".

As you can see in my previous post showing the effects of this compounding on Canadian dividend stocks over time this can generate yields far above the 5% they tout. The KEY is reinvestment of those dividends back into the stock...thereby increasing the dividend payment with time and increasing the capital gain through acquiring more stock.

Salted away in a tax sheltered account makes a lot of sense to me.

I am going to pursue this further...

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