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Does anyone understand the business model of FB besides selling ad space?
What will their future price be based on?

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Does anyone understand the business model of FB besides selling ad space?
What will their future price be based on?

It's more similar to Google than anything else, in my opinion. But with a much more evil nature since you aren't purposely going to Google to share stuff about your personal life.

Ads are huge revenue, but as they branch out into other services and products, it is all about mining your personal information and selling that information to others, whether it is targeted advertising or outright.

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How does Facebook make money?

How Does Facebook Make Money? - SplatF

Facebook IPO: How does Facebook make its money? - The Washington Post

Inside Facebook's money machine- MSN Money

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There are two...

quarters left in 2012. My guess is under 38 for the close of 2012 and say 18 bucks at the end of four quarters of the ipo. I will be a huge buyer of at the money Jan 14 puts if this thing trades 100.

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To whom it may concern.....I just heard it will start trading at 11:00 EST

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My guess is under 38 for the close of 2012 and say 18 bucks at the end of four quarters of the ipo. I will be a huge buyer of at the money Jan 14 puts if this thing trades 100.

Good luck @wldman. No question that FB may be way over it's head at $38. But, they seem to be real evil smart to offer FB at a premium at a time in May when market historically goes south as is doing now. Coming Fall, when historically markets go north there will be a lot of institutional, foreign, and public money to plunge into FB at perceived bargain levels. Usually, takes 4-6 quarters before public has a picture of earning yields and growth potential.

Who knows, Apple was a dog at $40 and nobody saw the light for them. So, I will wait until the hype subsides and talking heads are back in their cocoons. There will be plenty of room between $38 and $600 if they turn out to be legit and in par with Google (for now).

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what Facebook is

what they control is the largest data of just about everything driven by an algorithm so sophisticated that it would be scary what it could reveal about human nature. I look at search in terms of evolution, Google came up with the best search results based on relevence and popularity. But, people realized "hey, what do my friends think of that?" and FB was born.
Later people thought of "Hey, what do others think who are experiencing it now!?" and twitter was born.

Google failed to realize that people search in specific groups, and now they try to imitate it with their Google+...good luck!

The ethics of data mining within any search are always a topic, but this was done way before the net existed.
Your credit card purchases , subscriptions to magazines, attendance of trade shows all has been shared, analyzed and the post man delivered his junkman thereafter. How does Mozilla exist? They sell all your searches as well.

If you have the guts to short FB, good luck, because this company has stolen some serious brains from Google.
These "brains" don't just move because of $$ because anyone can match their demands, they move because they see growth else where and innovation.

Everyone sees the "childish" side of FB or Twitter, but they also have business application that multi million dollar corporation rely on. These are not personal life sharing, but knowledge based sharing.

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As for trading it on Friday, you have to be part of the über-class to be able to do that.Mike

Well, the IPO bankers/investors will be dumping their shares on the retail public throughout the day so no uber-ness needed once the exchanges get supply.

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just planing long OTM put to get a luck.

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just planing long OTM put to get a luck.

If the Facebook IPO is successful and trading on the shares begin friday the 18th, the first trading day for FB options will be Tuesday the 29th (the 28th would actually be the first day the options would be eligible, but that’s Memorial Day).

I will be exploring some options strategies to exploit skew which should offer some interesting risk reward trades.
I expect the options to be traded actively and jacked on vega, thus trading at a premium. Hyped s stocks seem to have the ability to run good for a sustained period of time, even on hefty valuations before things become more rational. E.G. NFLX.

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