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Curtis
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they are my words of my perception this passed 4 years

just found that link helpful to me , I'm only up to page 11 on that thread

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they are my words of my perception this passed 4 years

just found that link helpful to me , I'm only up to page 11 on that thread

Are you profitable now?

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Curtis
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When in adversity , don't speak of it ; you will make others unhappy. When in prosperity , don't speak of it ; you will also make others unhappy.

D.G. Watts

OK - then let me speak of it.

You may or may not be amongst the people I am discussing but.

Teh interweb is full of unprofitable people giving advice to others on how to be profitable.

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CRM5096 View Post
traders die from lack of knowledge and understanding and aplication there of

trade guro's wanting to sell you something thrive from a lack of knowledge gained by Iron sharpening Iron , Trader sharpening Trader

check out the thread below



https://futures.io/psychology-money-management/1415-big-mikes-day-trading-method-advice.html

Not sure Big Mike still considers himself a day trader. He now is a proponent of big charts, Daily 240 minutes, he says his lowest chart now is 60 min. I would assume with these size charts you would have to hold overnight and/or perhaps multiple days. That would fall more into the swing trading category.

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Can someone explain why so many people lose their money day tradin if SEC requires 25k account min. Do they turn to swing trading after they can't meet minimum?

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good grief would you give me a break , there is a lot of wisdom in that thread , chill out already



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I think that generally people lose their money coz they dont have a good system, dont let their profits run and overtrade.

All i know is this :

as a newbie , having read books over 5 years , investigated systems , methods and indicators and using sim , and then going live coz i thought i had a clue!- i learned so damn quick that i didnt have a clue , i lost 25% of my stake in a pretty short time and have learned more in that few months than over the whole last 5 years. now i am holding my own and clawing it back bit by bit .

i think advice is a dangerous thing even from the wise to the wise so i dont use it , i will live or die by own system and you will too!

Best of luck!

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DionysusToast View Post
Bcoz they have less than 25k....

So they go & trade futures, which are much riskier but where the SEC doesn't require you to have $25,000 or even $2,500...

It's madness really.

Exactly, the margins on futures is insane for someone starting out who is a beginner.

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1. Many are called, few are chosen. A few can ... many can't.

2. Once they lose most of their account, they switch to Futures with a $5k minimum to open an account.

3. When they lose most of that account, they open an account with a Forex dealer and trade micro lots.

4. When they lose that account, they switch to trading SIM, start a Trading Journal, expound upon the genius of their trading philosophy into perpetuity , post all their "Wins" and generate smirks,snickers,derision and raised eyebrows from experienced traders.

5. Once they get banned from their trading board, they open a Trading room, sell a training course and offer their "proprietary indicators" that they copied from the Elite Section of futures.io (formerly BMT).

And there you have it....

This is too funny... I feel exposed now. I just started a journal for the March challenge. Well, I am still slightly profitable, but who knows what may happen and I may be forced to sell my indicators for food and gas.

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