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kinda like me trying to learn ACSIL - I have to fess up that I have been going full retard lately trying to figure that out.

Actually, I'd say it is full normal.

The documentation in SC is confusing and fragmented about everything, and especially their programming interface. I think it's more or less typical of what you get when the kind of programmers who normally don't talk to users try to write documentation for users -- if you already understand what they are saying, it's fine. If you want to find something out that you don't already know about, less so.

The best suggestion I have is to read a lot of the code they include for their own indicators, starting with the real basic ones first. There is a structure to their code that you need to get, a reason why they do things, and then you just have to have looked up enough particular stuff (functions, constants, etc.) to get the hang of it. (They do even talk somewhere in the "Help" about the program structure they use. You just have to find it.) Since the table of contents gives you very little clue where to find something (unless you already knew), you'll end up reading many more places than you need to in order to find out what you are looking for. But you probably know this by now....

Also, you do need to know a C-based language (C, Java, C#, C++). Otherwise you will have that as an additional obstacle.

I'll definitely wish you luck. I'm afraid you will definitely need it.

Bob.


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Actually, I'd say it is full normal.

The documentation in SC is confusing and fragmented about everything, and especially their programming interface. I think it's more or less typical of what you get when the kind of programmers who normally don't talk to users try to write documentation for users -- if you already understand what they are saying, it's fine. If you want to find something out that you don't already know about, less so.

The best suggestion I have is to read a lot of the code they include for their own indicators, starting with the real basic ones first. There is a structure to their code that you need to get, a reason why they do things, and then you just have to have looked up enough particular stuff (functions, constants, etc.) to get the hang of it. (They do even talk somewhere in the "Help" about the program structure they use. You just have to find it.) Since the table of contents gives you very little clue where to find something (unless you already knew), you'll end up reading many more places than you need to in order to find out what you are looking for. But you probably know this by now....

Also, you do need to know a C-based language (C, Java, C#, C++). Otherwise you will have that as an additional obstacle.

I'll definitely wish you luck. I'm afraid you will definitely need it.

Bob.

Thanks Bob. I see that you are familir with the anguish but have transcended this 7th level of documentation hell reserved only for the most masochistic amongst us... to a realm of serene numbness where you sit on your rock of understanding, watching others toil and fumble their way towards the light.

I just dont know. Had to take a few days off and do some deep breathing. chop wood carry water...

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Thanks Bob. I see that you are familir with the anguish but have transcended this 7th level of documentation hell reserved only for the most masochistic amongst us... to a realm of serene numbness where you sit on your rock of understanding, watching others toil and fumble their way towards the light.

Not exactly . I can get done what I'm trying to do, but I sort of cheat by only trying to do simple indicator stuff, if possible by cheating more and copying and modifying something they've already done.

I remember now seeing a post you made about parallel lines, and thinking I didn't want to try that.

I'll do some basic shit, but otherwise generally make do with what is there.

Trying their documentation has been one of the least happy experiences I have had in the world of computers in some time.

Bob.

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Trying their documentation has been one of the least happy experiences I have had in the world of computers in some time.

Bob.

only the most ardent sadist can endure the ordeal. You must become the pain lol.

I can hack something together no issue but I really want to figure it out properly so that I can put together specific indicators and be able to access the underlying data if I ever need to. I installed Visual Studio and can setp through the code realtime in debug mode but my frustration levels were red lining right at that stage and I had to stop. So this week I will tackle things like accessing arrays, where chart data is stored, how to position elements at specific locations on charts etc. I rely heavily on volume spread analysis in my trading and automating some of that interpretation would be nice.

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