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HI
i tried volfix the demo and it was very good but since i trade usa stocks and they do not have all usa stocks only the most active around 300.
I tried sierrachart but this company want to use to build every thing by ur self and its reay hard for noraml user or u have to buy add ons.
do you guys have a link for free footprint?
market delta very expensive around 240$ if u want usa stocks

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HI
i tried volfix the demo and it was very good but since i trade usa stocks and they do not have all usa stocks only the most active around 300.
I tried sierrachart but this company want to use to build every thing by ur self and its reay hard for noraml user or u have to buy add ons.
do you guys have a link for free footprint?
market delta very expensive around 240$ if u want usa stocks

-Sierra chart has more studies out of the box than 99% of all trading platforms.
-Sierra charts footprint is called "Numbers bars"- https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/NumbersBars.php

The cost of Sierra chart is very cheap. They basically give it away.

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you said its cheap but the price is with data fees going to cost me more than volfix (volfix is 120)(Sierra plus fees might go over 100)
and my other issue i do not know how to build the Numbers bars its gonna take long time or either i have to buy add one.
my account with interactive broker as i know the data is weak

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you said its cheap but the price is with data fees going to cost me more than volfix (volfix is 120)(Sierra plus fees might go over 100)
and my other issue i do not know how to build the Numbers bars its gonna take long time or either i have to buy add one.
my account with interactive broker as i know the data is weak

I'll second Sierra Charts, it's a great charting platform. I don't trade from it, but that may change soon.

I pay just under $97.00 per month and that's using Sierra's data feed (Rebranded Barchart data) and I find it fast and accurate, no complaints. Full CME group, CBOE, Eurex and HK markets (Non-professional). I researched basically all of the major datafeeds and using Sierra's was the best deal.

SC is capable of anything you can imagine, is constantly updated and while it does take a little while to learn it, it's worth the time and effort.

As for creating what you need, there's plenty of people out there that will share their chartbooks with the community, I've shared two on this forum that were given to me and I then modified them and shared the chartbooks.

Plenty of people here at FIO will help and there's tons of info and related files at the Sierra support board.

I have an order book study that I'll try and find (I don't use them) and will post a screenshot, perhaps it's what you're looking for and will give you an idea of what's possible with Sierra.

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you said its cheap but the price is with data fees going to cost me more than volfix (volfix is 120)(Sierra plus fees might go over 100)
and my other issue i do not know how to build the Numbers bars its gonna take long time or either i have to buy add one.
my account with interactive broker as i know the data is weak

I found the chart book I was referencing, here's a screen shot of it and I've attached it here and will also upload it to the Elite Downloads section.

It has order book / number bar type of study, market profile and volume profile.

I take no credit for it, it was given to me. Feel free to use, modify and distribute as desired.


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I found the chart book I was referencing, here's a screen shot of it and I've attached it here and will also upload it to the Elite Downloads section.

It has order book / number bar type of study, market profile and volume profile.

I take no credit for it, it was given to me. Feel free to use, modify and distribute as desired.


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With volfix you get ALL datafeeds/exchanges (level2) for under 100$ a month - without even open a trading account...

So for me is there maybe something illegal... cme without non-pro alone costs you 90$, same with eurex... and there are mostly every exchange in this platform...
I ask at several datafeed provider to get such cheap packages - no one of the industry feed providers can give you this conditions

Some people slso talking about that volfix is under investigation from several exchanges

If you asking at volfix from where they gets the data, you dont get any answers...

So, for me a very strange situation, better go with sierra or atas.

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With volfix you get ALL datafeeds/exchanges (level2) for under 100$ a month - without even open a trading account...

So for me is there maybe something illegal... cme without non-pro alone costs you 90$, same with eurex... and there are mostly every exchange in this platform...
I ask at several datafeed provider to get such cheap packages - no one of the industry feed providers can give you this conditions

Some people slso talking about that volfix is under investigation from several exchanges

If you asking at volfix from where they gets the data, you dont get any answers...

So, for me a very strange situation, better go with sierra or atas.


Some people slso talking about that volfix is under investigation from several exchanges


where are the evidence of the investigation?
Show me the evidence, without proof it's better not to talk

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Some people slso talking about that volfix is under investigation from several exchanges





where are the evidence of the investigation?

Show me the evidence, without proof it's better not to talk



Use your brain - when a company sharing datafeed in worth of several hundret dollars (also ICE) for under 100 bucks, something went fundamental wrong!

So the evidence is the product itself and the exchange fees - EVERYBODY have to pay!

I can only quote what others say... and use my brain


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Use your brain - when a company sharing datafeed in worth of several hundret dollars (also ICE) for under 100 bucks, something went fundamental wrong!

So the evidence is the product itself and the exchange fees - EVERYBODY have to pay!

I can only quote what others say... and use my brain


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where do you see that it costs less than $ 100 a month?
It costs $ 150 a month to be informed better before speaking

first connect the brain and then open the mouth

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Use your brain - when a company sharing datafeed in worth of several hundret dollars (also ICE) for under 100 bucks, something went fundamental wrong!

So the evidence is the product itself and the exchange fees - EVERYBODY have to pay!

I can only quote what others say... and use my brain


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where do you see that it costs less than $ 100 a month?
It costs $ 150 a month to be informed better before speaking

first connect the brain and then open the mouth

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Yes, getting rude is not the right way to clear that up here

On volfix.net you can get the platform with all datafeeds for 1 year for 800 USD

So 800 : 12 = 66 USD

For the platform and ALL future exchanges and ALL Stock market exchanges and a Forex Feed

Alone the exchange fees would be several hundert dollars...

Maybe tiaulu can provide us more information how someone or some company can get around exchange fees?

As i know - thats not possible


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Yes, getting rude is not the right way to clear that up here

On volfix.net you can get the platform with all datafeeds for 1 year for 800 USD

So 800 : 12 = 66 USD

For the platform and ALL future exchanges and ALL Stock market exchanges and a Forex Feed

Alone the exchange fees would be several hundert dollars...

Maybe tiaulu can provide us more information how someone or some company can get around exchange fees?

As i know - thats not possible


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You said there are ongoing investigations by the datafeed provider against Volfix. I asked you for the source (where you read about the opening of investigations against the platform) . You didn't know how to give me any further information about it. To speak for personal opinions without proof is to discredit. It is your opinion and this remains.
PS: I do not use Volfix, Sierra Charts or Atas and Ninjatrader since they became introducing broker. But other platforms for volumetric analysis

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I heard or read somewhere in the internet (time ago) that not datafeed provider starts investigation but exchanges start to look a little bit closer to them... cause they think that volfix is refeeding the datafeeds to the customers - if its true, i don’t know... but seems logical when you look at the price range from volfix - it cant fit with exchange fees in anyway...

Maybe the future will show us if there is any illegal stuff with them.

The only proof out there is that they are cheaper than exchanges itself - what is impossible at a „normal“ company structure...

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The VolFix price $150 per month not included market data for live trading.
For live trading via Volfix on CQG account I must buy market data via my broker (15$ per for all CME)

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This is not correct cqg or rithmic only use for trade routing - all datafeeds included - also in demo vesion

Just try it - i have a license and all data is in, with no additional costs or exchange fees

Crazy but true


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If you take a year license the price drops under 80$ a month


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Yes, I think you're partially right.
I buy on my broker only CME market data.
But I can watching on volfix data also for other exchanges (like ICE).
But this data marked as "MT5 CFD" and have small DOM.
I do not fully understand what this means.
When I choose Ice or Eurex symbols on volfix order window on live account, I watch only end of day data and can't trading.

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Strange, no volfix offer till today data for all exchanges on the website - and cfd data have no market depht (alone this seems not legal cause volfix is no data distributor and have no license - you can check this on cme/ice vendors list)

Something really strange about this service...


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Strange, no volfix offer till today data for all exchanges on the website - and cfd data have no market depht

CFD can have DOM.
For example, you can get free real-time demo MT5 on AMP metatrader5 page.
It will be real CME/ICE market data, with small DOM (10 points).

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