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Market Depth/chart setups

i just got sierra chart setup and i have a couple questions

1. i have 5 chart books open, 1 for each symbol i would like to trade. And in each chart book i then have a 1 min, 5 min, 30 min chart etc. is there a way to save all of these as a whole work space so i do not have to reopen each chart book every time i close or open the program? i also have DOM traders open for each one and the market depth windows have to be reopened every time... i can deal with this but its annoying.

2. my DOM trader and market depth windows for the EUR and GBP futures are not showing more than one bid and ask price. my JPY is only showing 4 bid and asks, and my ES is only showing 4 on the bid with 4 0.00s after and then the ask is all 10 levels..(i think the ES might have shown 10 and 10 before). I am using IB for my data and in TWS its correctly displaying the bid/ask data. Am i missing a setting? i have cycled power and reopened the charts/dom.

Thank you for any answers/help in advance. new to this forum, i really see potential in this sierra chart and would like to be able to get a good 15 day test drive!

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i just got sierra chart setup and i have a couple questions

1. i have 5 chart books open, 1 for each symbol i would like to trade. And in each chart book i then have a 1 min, 5 min, 30 min chart etc. is there a way to save all of these as a whole work space so i do not have to reopen each chart book every time i close or open the program? i also have DOM traders open for each one and the market depth windows have to be reopened every time... i can deal with this but its annoying.

2. my DOM trader and market depth windows for the EUR and GBP futures are not showing more than one bid and ask price. my JPY is only showing 4 bid and asks, and my ES is only showing 4 on the bid with 4 0.00s after and then the ask is all 10 levels..(i think the ES might have shown 10 and 10 before). I am using IB for my data and in TWS its correctly displaying the bid/ask data. Am i missing a setting? i have cycled power and reopened the charts/dom.

Thank you for any answers/help in advance. new to this forum, i really see potential in this sierra chart and would like to be able to get a good 15 day test drive!

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1/ see here: Sierra Chart

The SierraChart site (Support Board and On-line documentation) are a wealth of knowledge. Using the search tools finds most answers - just like I did here

2/ Can't answer as I have no experience with IB

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thanks steve perfect answer for number 1. yea searching was hurting my head i must have just missed it as i have been searching so many things, it can be hard to just find out what one thing is labeled to change the color of it haha! sierra chart has so many settings its bittersweet! getting it tuned is a chore that i would hate to have to redo some day!

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ANSWERED for whom it may concern : well i did some searching and found that unfortunately you can only obtain market depth for 3 symbols at a time with interactive brokers. so i guess if you use IBKR data and plan to trade more than any 3 markets regularly you are screwed unless subscribing to other data or using another broker for data feed.


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ANSWERED for whom it may concern : well i did some searching and found that unfortunately you can only obtain market depth for 3 symbols at a time with interactive brokers. so i guess if you use IBKR data and plan to trade more than any 3 markets regularly you are screwed unless subscribing to other data or using another broker for data feed.


Not sure why a Sierra chart user would consider using IB for futures data- With IB data you can't really pull accurate bid/ask allocation. Sierra also provides data at a rock bottom price, they are basically giving it away.

IB data is only useful for niche instruments, eg like when no one else supported the Nikkei 225 mini. Or equities depth, since no other retail provider offers the same level of depth. Even IQ feed / Nanex can not offer what IB does it terms of depth from each Exchange/ECN

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Not sure why a Sierra chart user would consider using IB for futures data- With IB data you can't really pull accurate bid/ask allocation. Sierra also provides data at a rock bottom price, they are basically giving it away.

IB data is only useful for niche instruments, eg like when no one else supported the Nikkei 225 mini. Or equities depth, since no other retail provider offers the same level of depth. Even IQ feed / Nanex can not offer what IB does it terms of depth from each Exchange/ECN


ill definitely check into there pricing. im kind of n00b to the futures world. Ive been using IB for stocks/options and also TOS. i then started on futures a while ago in TOS and there platform was great but figured its better having one account on IB and of course there commission beats tos.


i have noticed that when comparing the data feed with say think or swim it comes in very different and i often see large prints that i cant find in TOS or even TWS... not even combined.

for instance ill see TWS/Sierra printing blocks of 200~ etc with smaller ones in between however a lot of the large prints like that will show in TOS as a aggregate of different sizes i.e. 15, 25, 1,1, 35 etc.

ill also see mysterious huge prints in sierra like 1000+ that dont seem to exist anywhere else.

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ill definitely check into there pricing. im kind of n00b to the futures world. Ive been using IB for stocks/options and also TOS. i then started on futures a while ago in TOS and there platform was great but figured its better having one account on IB and of course there commission beats tos.


i have noticed that when comparing the data feed with say think or swim it comes in very different and i often see large prints that i cant find in TOS or even TWS... not even combined.

for instance ill see TWS/Sierra printing blocks of 200~ etc with smaller ones in between however a lot of the large prints like that will show in TOS as a aggregate of different sizes i.e. 15, 25, 1,1, 35 etc.

ill also see mysterious huge prints in sierra like 1000+ that dont seem to exist anywhere else.

https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/SierraChartRealTimeFuturesStockDataFeed.php#Integration

$35 plus whatever exchanges you need.

"Full CME Group (CME, CBOT, COMEX, NYMEX) with Market Depth for nonprofessional Trading accounts: Price 15.75 USD/month. Can only be used by Sierra Chart users with a trading account with one of the supported futures Trading Services.
Symbols: CME, GBLX, CBOT, CBOTM, COMEX, CXMI, NYMEX, NYMI"

I doubt TWS provides accurate tick data.

If you want to verify the data you are looking at then just load up the equivalent symbol/ chart using Sierra Chart Historical Data- it's free, and should match whatever you would have seen in the real time feed. It should also closely match the likes of IQ feed, CQG, Rithmic in terms of trade size & bid/ask allocation.

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