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There are actually two APIs (.net which Ninja implemented to and c++). I am sure the .net was implemented first as Ninja likely has many more Mirus/Zen customers. The programming model is hard to deal with, but does fit better with .net for a number of reasons. The c++ API is poor at best, as they went crazy with namespaces/exceptions for no apparent reason (other than someone finished a c++ class and thought it was a good idea). Also the documentation is greatly lacking. This API has everything that SierraChart has always stated they did not want in the product. Given that point, I can understand why it is not being supported in the short term.

Also, on your point of


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A couple more reasons to choose NinjaTrader over Sierra Charts.

Has anyone else noticed that Ray and company missed releasing the next version this year (again). We were told in a webinar here that it would not happen in 2012, and definitely not in 2014. So they are either late again or they are planning a 2015 rollout (or it will be out in the next three days).

At the end of the day, everyone has to pick their data provider, charting application, broker, and trading interface. This can be all from a single vendor or multiple. Each platform excels at different things, and everyone has to make those decisions based on how they trade and what they can afford.

At the end of the day, I would not throw a platform under the bus for not implementing some crappy API (especially when that same platform has an open interface that the broker could have implemented to, but choose not to).

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Sierra Charts and Zen-fire

I pulled two sentences out of the Sierra Charts support Board that I think summarize their position regarding Zen-Fire.

"There are not many Sierra Chart Zen fire users overall."

"Therefore, if you do not wish to use the Sierra Chart data feed with Zen-Fire, assuming we will be supporting Zen fire to begin with, you can either decide to use another program, which is fine with us, or use another supported trading service."


Unfortunate. There are not enough users of the Sierra Charts and Zen-fire data feed combination to make it worthwhile for either side to work with the other.

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I pulled two sentences out of the Sierra Charts support Board that I think summarize their position regarding Zen-Fire.

"There are not many Sierra Chart Zen fire users overall."

"Therefore, if you do not wish to use the Sierra Chart data feed with Zen-Fire, assuming we will be supporting Zen fire to begin with, you can either decide to use another program, which is fine with us, or use another supported trading service."


Unfortunate. There are not enough users of the Sierra Charts and Zen-fire data feed combination to make it worthwhile for either side to work with the other.

This poked my eye too.
Quite arrogant statement from Sierra.

I liked Sierra's functions and competitive pricing in conjunction with Zenfire - this is gone now.

Sierra's broker-independent data-feed clocks at USD 1932,00 per anno. (CME+EUREX+ICE)
This is up from 0,00 . Again great Christmas gift.

If there are not many users (for Sierra-Zenfire), then because this great combination Sierra+Zenfire was badly communicated IMHO.

Please all - follow Mike's advice and complain to Mirus/Zenfire AND Sierra.


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A couple more reasons to choose NinjaTrader over Sierra Charts.

To me Sierra charting is far superior to Ninja - I like and use the Ninja DOM though - daily.

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This poked my eye too.
Quite arrogant statement from Sierra.

I liked Sierra's functions and competitive pricing in conjunction with Zenfire - this is gone now.

Sierra's broker-independent data-feed clocks at USD 1932,00 per anno. (CME+EUREX+ICE)
This is up from 0,00 . Again great Christmas gift.

If there are not many users (for Sierra-Zenfire), then because this great combination Sierra+Zenfire was badly communicated IMHO.

Please all - follow Mike's advice and complain to Mirus/Zenfire AND Sierra.

@puma

Maybe you could try Investor/RT. I think you can connect to zen-fire while using their DTN Market Access for historical datas at 15$/month. Both Sierra and Investor/RT have similar features.

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This poked my eye too.
Quite arrogant statement from Sierra.

I liked Sierra's functions and competitive pricing in conjunction with Zenfire - this is gone now.

Sierra's broker-independent data-feed clocks at USD 1932,00 per anno. (CME+EUREX+ICE)
This is up from 0,00 . Again great Christmas gift.

...

if you want ninja + SC then try AMP + SC + Ninja with Rithmic feed.


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Another great option is Rithmic (which is what Zen was based on before they were cut off) and Optimus. Optimus does a great job of supporting their users and SC.

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complain doesn't make sense, the company won't change their operation policy due to a couple of single users.

I am pretty happy with Zenfire and NT. there are a lot brokers, if you don't like this one, no complain, go to the other one

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thanks for the ideas, guys

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complain doesn't make sense, the company won't change their operation policy due to a couple of single users.

I am pretty happy with Zenfire and NT. there are a lot brokers, if you don't like this one, no complain, go to the other one

go to other broker but complain... loudly, put in your 2 cents is good for your health.

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