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I've got no solution for this out of the box because my hrdwr setups are two displays per desktop

Did you try a custom config using xrandr?

Yes. I posted on all the popular linux forums, no one could get it working, and no one else has it working either on six monitors with a single desktop. That was as of my last attempt, around 2 years ago.

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the issue

be careful with Trade -> Attach Trade Window to Chart for a chart and a TradeDOM

it doesn't work - do not detach it because of Wine issue


make a copy of a chart in order to attach

Looks like the issue has been resolved by SC Team and now the issue doesn't bring any harm on Linux/Wine.
One needs to click on a chart after attach/detach.

Also I've contacted with one of the Wine Developers about it and he says the provided info is not enough to separate the issue. He advised me to test SC on MacOS in order to test Xlib-specific aspect.

I did it using crossover 12.5.1 .
The behavior is the same on MacOS X 10.9 but it crashes TradeDOM sporadically /this is not the case on Linux/Wine/.

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some benefits of using SC on Ubuntu

Data Services --> SierraChart (store data)--> Python (pandas / R / etc) --> Python (trading decisions) --> SierraChart (ACSIL trading execution) --> Trading Services

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So I was playing around with running Linux Mint 15 from the usb on my second computer, and it was pretty nice, abeit quite slow, which I expected on usb. I only use the computer for internet and occasionally excel, so I thought it would be good to learn the ins and outs of linux on that box. I had assumed that once installed on the hard drive it would run at a good speed, but not so much. The UI is extremely sluggish and I can't even run full screen video without considerable chop. It recognizes my graphics and I have completed various performance tweaks, e.g. changing the virtual memory settings, etc., all of which made minimal improvements. The computer is an athlon 64 with nvidia graphics, not the fastest, but it works with xp no problem, so shouldn't linux be at least as fast? Experience so far has all but killed my desire to convert my trading box. Thanks for any feedback.

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So I was playing around with running Linux Mint 15 from the usb on my second computer, and it was pretty nice, abeit quite slow, which I expected on usb. I only use the computer for internet and occasionally excel, so I thought it would be good to learn the ins and outs of linux on that box. I had assumed that once installed on the hard drive it would run at a good speed, but not so much. The UI is extremely sluggish and I can't even run full screen video without considerable chop. It recognizes my graphics and I have completed various performance tweaks, e.g. changing the virtual memory settings, etc., all of which made minimal improvements. The computer is an athlon 64 with nvidia graphics, not the fastest, but it works with xp no problem, so shouldn't linux be at least as fast? Experience so far has all but killed my desire to convert my trading box. Thanks for any feedback.

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The UI is extremely sluggish and I can't even run full screen video without considerable chop.

It will be comfortable and really fast for native Linux apps using it as a main system (on ssd/hdd).

Linux has a lot of development tools out of a box: awk, perl, python, r-lang, mingw and so on.
It is very comfortable to use these tools on Linux. There are some of them on Windoze.

WinApp (UI) on Linux will never be as fast as the same WinApp (UI) on Windows because of additional transitions. (WinAPI -> Xlib)

If you need more than two monitors or you are using (prefer) the human interface (visual patterns, scrolling intensively, tick charts on high resolution 1920x1200 or more) for most part of time then just wait for a native linux version in two-three years.

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I have it installed on the drive, but the problem seems to be the Mint distro is slow, I am testing linux lite and even from the usb it is 10x faster than mint on the drive (or it feels that way anyway ). I'm gonna redo it with that and see how it goes.


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It will be comfortable and really fast for native Linux apps using it as a main system (on ssd/hdd).

Linux has a lot of development tools out of a box: awk, perl, python, r-lang, mingw and so on.
It is very comfortable to use these tools on Linux. There are some of them on Windoze.

WinApp (UI) on Linux will never be as fast as the same WinApp (UI) on Windows because of additional transitions. (WinAPI -> Xlib)

If you need more than two monitors or you are using (prefer) the human interface (visual patterns, scrolling intensively, tick charts on high resolution 1920x1200 or more) for most part of time then just wait for a native linux version in two-three years.

imho.


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I have it installed on the drive, but the problem seems to be the Mint distro is slow, I am testing linux lite and even from the usb it is 10x faster than mint on the drive (or it feels that way anyway ). I'm gonna redo it with that and see how it goes.

In case you have no experience in Linux you definitely need to use pure ubuntu 12.04.3 at this point of time (long term support distro).

then you will be able to choose unity 2d as GUI (no compiz)

it solves a lot of your problem, imho

ps:
- we are waiting for Wayland and it will be gpu-accelerated GUI
- gnome 3.10 has the classic shell (a la windows explorer) already
so no need to use any fork (4ex: mate)

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I got Linux Lite going, it's based on Ubuntu 12.04. Saw some video where this guy from puppy linux was raving about it (yeah, isn't that treason or something?) and he's right, it's awesome. I haven't optimized jack and it's already faster than my windows 7 box, so I don't think I have to do anything in that department. Everything opens very quickly and full screen video is no problem. To say it's snappy as hell is an understatement.

Also, it has better layout than mint and so far everything works like you expect it to. For example in mint, I wanted to make everything bigger, but there is no DPI setting, all you can do is change some scaling setting and the font so you end up with text that doesn't fit the windows and it only affects the UI, so still none of the apps are bigger. In LL you go to appearance and there is a DPI setting and voila in two seconds everything was bigger like you would expect it to be, fonts, icons, windows, apps, etc. Also you increase the size of the start menu in mint and you just have a fatter bar with no obvious way to make the icons bigger. In LL I made the start menu bigger and voila all of the icons are bigger too. I am sure it is possible to do those things in mint, but it's a newbie distro and as a beginner I just want the damn thing to be bigger without spending hours trying to get it done.

Also couldn't get Deja Dup to run in mint. I spent several hours on that too, and in LL it works fine. Basically, in maybe 90 minutes I had it installed, updated, configured, apps going the way I wanted, and initial backup running. Everything just works. In summary, if you don't use Linux Lite, then screw you.


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I got Linux Lite going, it's based on Ubuntu 12.04.
Also couldn't get Deja Dup to run in mint. I spent several hours on that too, and in LL it works fine. Basically, in maybe 90 minutes I had it installed, updated, configured, apps going the way I wanted, and initial backup running. Everything just works. In summary, if you don't use Linux Lite, then screw you.



hmm. ok.
this is my POV for a fast and reliable trading station:

- install ubuntu-$ver-server-i386 /suse minimal, centos minimal/

- install and config failproof network subsystem

- install xorg + openbox+tint2

- install latest stable nvidia driver

- install r / py3 / gcc-mingw32

- install ide geany/eric

- install SC /wine1.6/ and crossover /4 tests/

this will be the much faster and more reliable one than you've ever seen before

no any "bells and whistles"


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I was looking for something fast and easy to install and get running for a beginner, which it was, only kink being connecting my w7 box to linux. Connecting linux to w7 was a breeze, but setting up the share on the linux box was an overly convoluted process IMO. You should be able to right click and enter share settings. That said, it seems fast enough to run Wine, so I am gonna set up SC on that box as a test and see how it runs. If there are no problems then I may take it to the next level and give your super duper setup a try.

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