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$26/month and no recurring billing so if you don't want to use it any more you just ignore the billing reminder, fantastic feature.

That is a heck of a good deal.....hard to ignore!

 
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$26/month and no recurring billing so if you don't want to use it any more you just ignore the billing reminder, fantastic feature.

And if you like it, you can buy a year at a crack for $14.04 / month

There is no purchase option, only monthly leases, but at 14.04 / month, that is 70 months vs a $995 purchase!

At that rate, it should really be adding a grand total of $0 to your commissions if it is included by your broker. Better yet, just pay for it yourself and tell the broker to not worry about it.

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And if you like it, you can buy a year at a crack for $14.04 / month

There is no purchase option, only monthly leases, but at 14.04 / month, that is 70 months vs a $995 purchase!

At that rate, it should really be adding a grand total of $0 to your commissions if it is included by your broker. Better yet, just pay for it yourself and tell the broker to not worry about it.

Great points......looks like I might have to get a demo and start messing around with SC.

Infinity is going to offer SC with Transact feed for order routing....right?

 
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Here the DOM in a separate window, not on the chart

You can configure a chart so it looks like a DOM with VAP if you like and hide the bars.
I trade with SC trough TT and Velocity and it works reliable, except when TT has changed the X_Trader version lately. But that was on Velocity's site.
As others mentioned befare the replay feature is for me the best I know, because you can replay while you are watching live data, or you can replay all charts in a chartbook.
For me it is not the look but the feel of a platform, which is important.

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I subscribed to SC for some months but made a come-back to NT.

It was a little pain using a template setup for, say Euro (6E), for another instrument, say YM; you'll have to learn to do different settings for different instruments, and also for different chart types (i. e. Range, Minute, Renko, Ticks, etc). I don't like this aspect of SC. For example, if Chris makes his 6B template posted in post #204 above, available, I cannot use it "as-is" for say YM, or ES; it will not plot as required, until the settings for YM is setup.

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I cannot use it "as-is" for say YM, or ES; it will not plot as required, until the settings for YM is setup.

That is true, because like in the VAP study you have to change the tick value. But once it is done and saved in a chartbook, I don't bother. I don't change my instruments that often .

 
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I subscribed to SC for some months but made a come-back to NT.

It was a little pain using a template setup for, say Euro (6E), for another instrument, say YM; you'll have to learn to do different settings for different instruments, and also for different chart types (i. e. Range, Minute, Renko, Ticks, etc). I don't like this aspect of SC. For example, if Chris makes his 6B template posted in post #204 above, available, I cannot use it "as-is" for say YM, or ES; it will not plot as required, until the settings for YM is setup.

Lolu

SC doesn't use templates. Instead, they use chartbooks, and study collections (.StdyCollct in the \data folder) shown in the Analysis menu, which you can apply to any chart.

Each chart must be set to the proper Price Display Format for the instrument symbol, but that can be handled automatically in the Global Symbol Settings pane.

The only weird thing when sharing chartbooks is with range bars, which are set in points not ticks. A 5 tick range bar chart for the ES would be set to 1.25, for the 6E it would be 0.0005, for the YM it would be 5.0, and for the TF it would be 0.5.

I guess I don't understand your concern...

 
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We all know Ninjatrader has like 'extensive logs'

ninjatrader logs like everything.

They just told me today that sierracharts is logging nothing :-(

Maybe that's also a reason for performance increase ?

 
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We all know Ninjatrader has like 'extensive logs'

ninjatrader logs like everything.

They just told me today that sierracharts is logging nothing :-(

Maybe that's also a reason for performance increase ?

Why do you suppose they need all those logs? Perhaps because they know things may not work?

Anyway, I think Sierra does log your trade activity in TradeActivityLog.dat in your SierraChart dir. To me, this is what needs to be logged. Some other minor events like losing data connectivity might also be nice to know about, and perhaps if a custom indicator blew up. Besides that, not sure what else you really need to track if you have already tested the code.

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We all know Ninjatrader has like 'extensive logs'

ninjatrader logs like everything.

They just told me today that sierracharts is logging nothing :-(

Maybe that's also a reason for performance increase ?

Sierra has a Message Log, a Trade Service Log, and a Trace Activity Log. There is also a Trading Positions window, and a Trade Orders window. For them to say SC logs nothing is not accurate.

SC does lack some of the trade performance figures that Ninja provides, and what Sierra does provide is not in an easy format to grasp, but the data is there if you want to copy it to your own spreadsheet for further analysis.

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SC doesn't use templates. Instead, they use chartbooks, and study collections (.StdyCollct in the \data folder) shown in the Analysis menu, which you can apply to any chart.

Each chart must be set to the proper Price Display Format for the instrument symbol, but that can be handled automatically in the Global Symbol Settings pane.

The only weird thing when sharing chartbooks is with range bars, which are set in points not ticks. A 5 tick range bar chart for the ES would be set to 1.25, for the 6E it would be 0.0005, for the YM it would be 5.0, and for the TF it would be 0.5.

I guess I don't understand your concern...

Yeah, I meant chartbook/study collections, which is understandably template in NT.

Oh yes, it is that "only weird thing" that I don't like in SC

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Yeah, I meant chartbook/study collections, which is understandably template in NT.

Oh yes, it is that "only weird thing" that I don't like in SC

Lolu

My point is there is only one thing to change, and only on range charts.

-Tom

 
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Another refreshing concept is the inclusion of documentation for all of the things you can access from a study (from C++). There are also samples to get you started. All of the doc is web based, and there is video content as well.

Note, it is really low level, and may scare some people away, but it is pretty awesome from my perspective. There is definitely a learning curve, but at least the trail is marked.

 
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one cool thing about SC studycollection/template is if you save it with a hyphen at the end exmp: mycollect- you can apply it to other template without erasing exist studies/indicators.

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one cool thing about SC studycollection/template is if you save it with a hyphen at the end exmp: mycollect- you can apply it to other template without erasing exist studies/indicators.

Cool. Thanks, I did not know that, but it is there in the documentation (I just checked).

Another example of the depth of flexibility of Sierra...

 
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I am warming up to the idea of using SC as well but I am still hesitant considering the indicator legacy that I have in NT (many custom indicators). I am sure that they can all be reprogrammed in SC but the learning curve will be steep and I am wondering if it's worth the time investment. Has anyone had to recode indicators from NT to SC and if so what was their experience? Any roadblocks along the way, i.e. functionality available in NT that is not readily available in SC?

 
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My point is there is only one thing to change, and only on range charts.

-Tom

I was only interested in using SierraChartís Footprint features to view the BID/ASK, and ORDER FLOW of the market; I wanted something very similar to GOMVolumeLadder or MarketDelta; you may wish to have a look at my Trading Diary thread; all my charts on pages 1 - 4 of my thread are in SC. So, I had issues with this "weird" settings requirements for my Footprint chartbooks/study collections, be it Minute chart, Range chart, Tick chart, and Renko chart types (these are the chart types that I was interested in).

So, you would note that my interest is not just in only setting up a Range chart. Chris and Cory had shared their chartbooks/study collections with me in the early part of this thread and my experience with this "weird" settings requirements, particularly for my Footprints, is not good for me.

Hey, you will please note that I'm this thread Starter.


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@aslan, could you make some 'better' renko studies, obviously if u are interested in.
Thanks.

Edit: 2 threads about renko improvements on SC support Board https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/error.php, https://www.sierrachart.com/index.php?page=doc/error.php

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renko study by Sock
*User Contributed Custom Studies and Systems* - Page 2 - Sierra Chart

 
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I am also intrigued by Sierra Charts. I would like to automate a lot of my trading, but can not trust NT. It would be great if folks can share their experience about the following specifics.
  • Tick Based Studies: In NT you can get market data tick by tick when trading live, but do not get it for historical indicators; hence the need for GOMI. Can you get tick by tick data in SC for populating the tick based indicators? As long as the data is pumped in sequence, the resolution of the time-stamp does not matter much, unless you want to exact time.

  • Refering Market Internal Symbols: Can you map different market internal data supplied by IQFeed and use them for charts or auto-trading system?

  • Order Entry and Trade Management System: Do they supply a complete API for you to send and manage orders like the NT unmanaged API or is is restricted to some ATM strategy etc. which they support natively.

  • Referring Other Studies/Indicators: Can you refer to other indicators and studies like you supposedly can with NT?

  • Graphic Capabilities: Do you have any freedom for drawing symbols etc. on your charts as NT has using the .NET APIs or is it restricted to whatever functions they provide for drawing?

  • System Design-Multicore: Do the different charts run as separate threads, allowing you to utilize the power of a multi-core system or is the multi-threading restricted to data download/management.
  • System Design-High Volatility: Does it have any special handling for times where there is high volatility?

  • Volume/Market Profile Indicators: How comprehensive are their Volume profiling indicators, compared to iRT.
    1. Can you draw a profile around any random custom bars or is it tied to a bar/a day etc.?
    2. Can you look at multi-day/multi-week profiles (merged)?
    3. Can you split profiles at specific letters and create new profiles?
  • Rollover: The videos on their site are a bit old so I am not sure how well they handle rollovers, especially when it comes to drawing composite volume profiles.

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Programming learning curve:

Pretty steep even though I have 20+ years as a programmer. To begin with I struggled to understand how to program it. I had no C++ experience and I found the online manuals very difficult to follow. It made developing NinjaScript seem like a walk in the park.


Hi David,

Like you I am struggling to find good documentation to learn the how to code ATS for SC. Can you recommend any website that might enhance my learning curve?

Thanks,
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Hi David,

Like you I am struggling to find good documentation to learn the how to code ATS for SC. Can you recommend any website that might enhance my learning curve?

Thanks,
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Take a look Learning ACSIL - Recommendation - Sierra Chart

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Hi David,

Like you I am struggling to find good documentation to learn the how to code ATS for SC. Can you recommend any website that might enhance my learning curve?

I'm afraid not. Its just a matter of looking at examples in tradingsystem.cpp and other indicator code and then finding your way around the online documentation as best you can. Use the search at the top right hand side of their documentation pages.

At first ACSIL seems very unfriendly, particularly if you have been developing in NinjaScript for three years as I have, however I kept at it and now it makes sense.

Mind you I am still puzzling how to do a few things in ACSIL that were simple to program in NinjaScript. For example, stuff like DrawText, DrawRegion etc are simple in NT 7 , but seem much more complex in ACSIL.

 
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@aslan, could you make some 'better' renko studies, obviously if u are interested in.

If I switch over to SC, I will take a look. I am using the Sock Renko referenced by @cory, but I suspect it may need some tweaks, but it has been pretty good. The way bars are created is not trivial, so will require some time investment.

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Looking for some help. I have been able to get SC up and running under wine on OS X, and it works perfectly until I try to connect to IQFeed. IQFeed client seems to install and run fine under wine, but when SC tries to connect via IQ it hangs. I suspect I may be missing a wine package or something, but have not been able to find any help on the net.

Anyone out there running SC and IQ together under wine?

 
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Hello Aslan, please try CrossOver: Windows emulator for Mac and Linux computers - CodeWeavers

It's a much better implementation than wine.

 
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Looking for some help. I have been able to get SC up and running under wine on OS X, and it works perfectly until I try to connect to IQFeed. IQFeed client seems to install and run fine under wine, but when SC tries to connect via IQ it hangs. I suspect I may be missing a wine package or something, but have not been able to find any help on the net.

Anyone out there running SC and IQ together under wine?

I'd successfully installed NT6.5 on Linux/Wine some years back now; I got it working to NT launching and "Loading Custom Assemblies ......" and it just hangs.

CrossOver for SC or the like will not work; Wine is preferred 'cos you can tweak Wine. I installed Darwine (a Wine variant) on my Mac whilst trying to install NT natively on my Mac sometime ago, but I did not succeed in running NT on it. I have IQFeed and an expired SC account, so I'll give it a try on my Mac and post my experience.

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I don't know why I was worrying about contract rollovers with Sierra Charts. It's a breeze.

You just copy the existing data file for your contract and then rename it to the new contract name and update your charts with the name of the new data file.

Having the tick data in a file rather than a database is a real bonus, though it does seem a bit outdated.

From a programming point of view, I also like the way that you can build up script files with your own indicators and strategies. It keeps them all in one place making them easy to backup and manage.

The more familiar I become with SC, the more I'm liking it.

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Hello Aslan, please try CrossOver: Windows emulator for Mac and Linux computers - CodeWeavers

It's a much better implementation than wine.

Same behavior under crossover. SC works fine with built in data feed, IQ works fine by itself, but when SC tries to connect to IQ it hangs waiting. I suspect the sockets are not connecting for some reason, not sure how to debug or tweak, going to move on for now.

 
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I have started trying SC with rithmic today, it's really fast and has the historical data, but the dom depth doesn't work and there's not backfilling for bid ask data.
I will post this on SC forum to see if they will fix it.

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I don't know why I was worrying about contract rollovers with Sierra Charts. It's a breeze.

You just copy the existing data file for your contract and then rename it to the new contract name and update your charts with the name of the new data file.

Having the tick data in a file rather than a database is a real bonus, though it does seem a bit outdated.

From a programming point of view, I also like the way that you can build up script files with your own indicators and strategies. It keeps them all in one place making them easy to backup and manage.

The more familiar I become with SC, the more I'm liking it.

this is roll over without adjusting your data method. You can also do a roll over but with adjusted back data.

 
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I have started trying SC with rithmic today, it's really fast and has the historical data, but the dom depth doesn't work and there's not backfilling for bid ask data.
I will post this on SC forum to see if they will fix it.

How would you ever get HISTORICAL clean BID/ASK data from a broker supplied data feed like Rithmic?

 
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my two cents.
I switched over into using SC about two months ago.
My computing skills from both a hardward and softward point of view are about 3 out of ten. So everything has to be learnt. My trading experiences are probably more along the 8 out of ten. For me SC rocks.
It looks like you can do most things required for auto trading and discretionary trading, and so far its been reliable.
I have hooked it up to IB (and they are not the most reliable) but leave it running feeding into IB during the week - still testing the whole system - making sure IB drops out, the feeds get messed up etc;
So far so good.

I am just trying to get into some more C++ coding.... so a while to go yet. I dont use a lot of indicators (pretty much zero - and the ones I use are simple) But everything can be built here. (My view of the markets is that you only make money by buying the things that go up and shorting those that go down - you dont need a bunch of magical indicators to do that, but thats only my opinion)
Someone put me onto another thing called autohotkeys (that I am yet to look at) but supposedly that can be used to build macros for those who like that sort of thing.

The point is, so far I would say, yes it looks clunky, but all I care about is if it works reliably.
Additionally, while it seems a steep learning curve, and it seems the info is hard to find. Its there. I am constantly finding, I need to re read things and realise the info is there - but in a compacted detail.
The forums are building the data base of info and the SC administrators are great in that they just say if something cant be done, or point you in the right direction. For me thats great, and is all thats required. they fix things, and implement things quickly - not to make things look good, but to make them work. (I dont use anything less than a 5min charts, or a 10 pip range bar (my personal preference so I dont know if SC falls down below this)
For me, SC is all I need now and I dont even look or think about NT or multicharts or tradestation......and that in itself saves a lot of time and worry

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How would you ever get HISTORICAL clean BID/ASK data from a broker supplied data feed like Rithmic?

Have u a broken record?

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Have u a broken record?

Nope.....trying to see if there was something new offered. Guess not.

 
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I have a feeling Sierracharts is getting rewarded for their efforts lately. Ninjatrader released some kind of a servicepack that they called version 7 and it took them a year to release it.

Sierrachart releases a new stable version every month, heck, they even call their betas 'stable' and release them every week or so.

 
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Nope.....trying to see if there was something new offered. Guess not.

Only for reading purpose, if u missed them, , .

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I have started trying SC with rithmic today, it's really fast and has the historical data, but the dom depth doesn't work and there's not backfilling for bid ask data.
I will post this on SC forum to see if they will fix it.

FYI Rithmic data issue? - Sierra Chart.

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I was hoping to post it only a bit later, but we are working really hard to fully integrate Rithmic to SierraCharts.
We will do testing all December and try the address all the issues that might arise as a result.
I have chosen a few of the wiz guys here who will get the test shortly, and would be able to share it.

I am excited to bring it to the community, and hope that some of you will like it.

As mike says "competition is good"!

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Only for reading purpose, if u missed them, , .


None of those broker supplied feeds have "ticker plants" so it is one bad burst of data and your day (and CD information) is shot.......so the reliability issues will always be a crap shoot. Also, the ability to have clean and verified stored historical BID/ASK data from a "ticker plant" that can be loaded at anytime is critical for working with BID/ASK differential tools.....Footprints/GomLadders/CD candlesticks.

Once all these broker supplied data feeds add "ticker plants" and hold historical BID/ASK data that is verified then these type of feeds could be considered as a viable option.

 
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If anyone is interested, you can demo the Rithmic powered SC. You can do so by going here to request a demo. It is working fine for me, but when you go to download SC, be sure you download the pre-release version which includes the Rithmic support (there is a link on the download page to download pre-release).

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I have no experience with SC but in C++ you can define macros to simplify future typing:

Top of your file:

 
Code
 
#define  Close(idx)    sc.BaseDataIn[SC_LAST][sc.Index - idx]
#define  Open(idx)    sc.BaseDataIn[SC_OPEN][sc.Index - idx]

then you can type

 
Code
 
if (Close(idx) > Open(idx)  {
  do something
}

instead of

 
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if ( sc.BaseDataIn[SC_LAST][sc.Index - 1 ] > sc.BaseDataIn[SC_OPEN][sc.Index - 1 ])
{
do something
}

You can go futher by:

 
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#define  BarIsUp(idx)  sc.BaseDataIn[SC_LAST][sc.Index - idx] > sc.BaseDataIn[SC_OPEN][sc.Index - idx]
 
if (BarIsUp(1))  {
  do something
}


Better yet you can place all your defines in a header file (say myDefines.h) and include them using #include

There are even better ways to encapsulate thing in C++ once you get some experience with the language

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I hope this is of some help

It is - many thanks.

I've got to get a book about C++

 
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@ vegasfoster, thanks for sharing! Backfill comes from Sierra's servers according to their feature listing website.

@ ibiscmllc, DTN is supported but not Kinetick, Kinetick is only for NT. You can probably contact DTN to upgrade your Kinetick connection to a regular IQfeed connection pretty easily. It also seems that Rithmic support was just added very recently (days), it is unclear if Zen Fire will work or only Rithmic (you would assume both, but couldn't determine this with Google yet). Also backfill is not yet available on Rithmic, but they are working to add it via Sierra's servers.

Mike

Thanks for the info. I am having problems trying to establish a Rithmic connection with my Zen-Fire credentials. It keeps rejecting the username and password as being invalid. However I noticed that the configuration dialog in SC requires an "account" in addition to username and password. What is that?

 
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Thanks for the info. I am having problems trying to establish a Rithmic connection with my Zen-Fire credentials. It keeps rejecting the username and password as being invalid. However I noticed that the configuration dialog in SC requires an "account" in addition to username and password. What is that?

Rithmic is not identical to Zen Fire, you cannot use your Zen Fire credentials. You need to be a Rithmic customer, not a Zen Fire customer. I am not sure when or if SierraChart will support Zen Fire (anyone feel free to correct me).

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according ninja site if you have paid ninja license you can have rimithc for 50/m


opps...
I mix up 2 data feeds
ninja/Rithmic here optimusfutures.com/rithmic.htm

and ninja/Kinetic for 50/m here
https://www.kinetick.com/purchase

 
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according ninja site if you have paid ninja license you can have rimithc for 50/m

Link?

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Rithmic is not identical to Zen Fire, you cannot use your Zen Fire credentials. You need to be a Rithmic customer, not a Zen Fire customer. I am not sure when or if SierraChart will support Zen Fire (anyone feel free to correct me).

Mike

Sierra claims you can use your Zenfire account to access Rithmic (maybe):

Data provider support - Sierra Chart

I haven't tried it myself, so only relaying what I read.

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There is no charge for the Rithmic feed if you use them through any platform.
Also, something that I have experimented with this morning, is the ability to use the credentials of Rithmic to set up R-Trader right beside any platform that uses it. R-Trader is Rithmic's front-end platform and it's free.

For example, if someones uses MultiCharts via Rithmic, you don't need to invest in an additional platform to execute through if you see manual trading. Second example, if you don't like the the DOM Sierra Chart, you can use the DOM on R_Trader and trade through that. Either way, you position will show up on R-Trader and you can manage your positions and risk from there.

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Sierra claims you can use your Zenfire account to access Rithmic (maybe):

Data provider support - Sierra Chart

I haven't tried it myself, so only relaying what I read.

Interesting, based on my understanding that should not work. Hopefully someone can confirm either way.

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Fundamentally, you can access ZenFire servers/accounts with the Rithmic API, because ZenFire is built on top of Rithmic. I have done this with my Zen account using the Rithmic API (you need the correct connection strings).

That being said, I am not sure that SC supports this. I am sure the ZenFire brokers would rather you connect via the ZenFire API, not the Rithmic API. Supporting both APIs should not be an issue long term for SC. I will give them a shout and see what they say.

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Velocity Futures has listed SC on their website Sierra Chart | Velocity Futures with no platform fee, don't know if this means that they give u SC for free, and if it's so what package?
Maybe @Dale Box could clarify this.
Thanks.

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This is for programmers, especially for those who develops bid/ask studies, and custom charts, like @gomi, @timmyb, @Zondor, @aslan, to name a few, take a look here Sierra Chart - Definitions of Advanced Custom Study Interface Members and see the possibilities that SC gives.
I know that changing platform and program language means re-start from zero, but maybe if this can resolve a lot of problem due to the actual limitation of NT, it's worth it, give it a thought.

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I just installed SC on another V-machine.

It's like 14mb big. Can you believe it ? Just awesome, remembers me of the days I wrote something that was after compilation a .com file of 2kb big.

 
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Velocity Futures has listed SC on their website Sierra Chart | Velocity Futures with no platform fee, don't know if this means that they give u SC for free, and if it's so what package?
Maybe @Dale Box could clarify this.
Thanks.

He already did a while back.



It is package 5.

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It is package 5.

Mike

Oh, very good then, seems the commissions still remain what were for the TT_FIX.

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Oh, very good then.

I would say it's great news for any Sierra user. Looks like they still don't have the commission rates up on the site yet, but he said cheaper than NinjaTrader so it sounds like it will be competitive.

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I am making the jump to Sierra Charts, as I like what I have seen and have been able to do everything that I currently do on my other screens. I still have my old platform up and running until I get used to the chart trader, but eventually that will go away. I have been very pleased with SC support: very fast, knowledgeable, and they listen and converse.

There are a couple of items that need some improvement over time though:

First, the way multiple feeds are supported needs to be more like MultiCharts, in that a single instance of the program should be able to handle different concurrent feeds (especially for historical and live data, for example, use IQ for backfill and Rithmic for live data). You can do this today, but you have to run multiple instances of SC. It works, but is a bit clumsy.

Second, backtesting, optimizing, and performance reporting seems to be way behind programs like MultiCharts. Might be worth having another program to do this sort of thing, and just use SC to do the day to day trading.

Above, I compare to MC, why not use it? I think it is another good option, but the basic user will be using EasyLanguage. I really wanted to write lower level code, and I have been very happy with SC in this regard. You can write DLL code for MC as well, but I just never got that warm fuzzy feeling with MC.

There is something very peaceful knowing that I no longer need Ninja.

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I am making the jump to Sierra Charts, as I like what I have seen and have been able to do everything that I currently do on my other screens. I still have my old platform up and running until I get used to the chart trader, but eventually that will go away. I have been very pleased with SC support: very fast, knowledgeable, and they listen and converse.

There are a couple of items that need some improvement over time though:

First, the way multiple feeds are supported needs to be more like MultiCharts, in that a single instance of the program should be able to handle different concurrent feeds (especially for historical and live data, for example, use IQ for backfill and Rithmic for live data). You can do this today, but you have to run multiple instances of SC. It works, but is a bit clumsy.

Second, backtesting, optimizing, and performance reporting seems to be way behind programs like MultiCharts. Might be worth having another program to do this sort of thing, and just use SC to do the day to day trading.

Above, I compare to MC, why not use it? I think it is another good option, but the basic user will be using EasyLanguage. I really wanted to write lower level code, and I have been very happy with SC in this regard. You can write DLL code for MC as well, but I just never got that warm fuzzy feeling with MC.

There is something very peaceful knowing that I no longer need Ninja.

Wow, I could have written almost every word of your post myself. With Sierra Charts, from a programming perspective, the answer always seems to be "Yes!". With Ninjatrader there always seems to be something getting in the way.

I am still toying with Multi Charts, but you are right, Easy Language just isnt powerful enough and if I was ever going to distribute any systems or indicators I would never trust their password security on the MC scripts. I would go down the route of using C++ to do the heavy lifting, but I keep coming back to why bother when you have Sierra Charts.

MC 7 looks like it will have some good new features but it is very unclear about when it will be released to market and it is still Easy language, of course.


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single instance of the program should be able to handle different concurrent feeds (especially for historical and live data, for example, use IQ for backfill and Rithmic for live data).

Sierra Charts are working on this, apparently and will release it in about three months. I wish they would do something to improve the back test stats as this lets it down, but you've said that already!

 
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Velocity Futures has listed SC on their website Sierra Chart | Velocity Futures with no platform fee, don't know if this means that they give u SC for free, and if it's so what package?
Maybe @ Dale Box could clarify this.
Thanks.

I just talked to Velocity and they offered me package 3 since I'm an existing user.
If I want to upgrade to package 5 in the future, there will be a volume requirement, maybe.
If I need specialized support that Sierra charges for, they will either debit my trading account or possibly set up a direct payment option to Sierra.
They seem to still be working out the details.

Commissions are still the same as shown on the FIX tab. ($3.60 RT for ES)

You don't have to use Velocity's Sierra package. You can still keep your Sierra subscription in your own name if you want.

 
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I just talked to Velocity and they offered me package 3 since I'm an existing user.
If I want to upgrade to package 5 in the future, there will be a volume requirement, maybe.
If I need specialized support that Sierra charges for, they will either debit my trading account or possibly set up a direct payment option to Sierra.
They seem to still be working out the details.

Commissions are still the same as shown on the FIX tab. ($3.60 RT for ES)

You don't have to use Velocity's Sierra package. You can still keep your Sierra subscription in your own name if you want.

When you say they offered you package 3, does that mean it was provided at no cost? Is that because you are currently a member or do you think it would be offered to new customers also?
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When you say they offered you package 3, does that mean it was provided at no cost? Is that because you are currently a member or do you think it would be offered to new customers also?
Papa15

They offer sierra free of charge to any velocity clients. Just changed mine to sierra.

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When you say they offered you package 3, does that mean it was provided at no cost? Is that because you are currently a member or do you think it would be offered to new customers also?
Papa15

I was referring to Mike's previous post that they were offering package 5.

They are offering Sierra for free to all clients. Velocity/TT/Sierra is a great combination for price, reliability, and service. Now that Sierra is included, it's even harder to beat.

 
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Hi, this is what I got from Velocity, asking how I can change my paid SC subscription. Just changed it on the customer portal. Let's see how it works out. I like their portal and how they handle your request . Hope this helps.

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Hello,Yes we pay for Sierra Chart. Please go to your portal and change platform from FIX to Sierra Chart and we'll take care of it.


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Is there a minimum RTs you have to do to get SierraChart for free for package 5?

Just trying to do the same for my guys who use Rithmic.

Merry XMAS, Happy Holidays to all.

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Fundamentally, you can access ZenFire servers/accounts with the Rithmic API, because ZenFire is built on top of Rithmic. I have done this with my Zen account using the Rithmic API (you need the correct connection strings).

That being said, I am not sure that SC supports this. I am sure the ZenFire brokers would rather you connect via the ZenFire API, not the Rithmic API. Supporting both APIs should not be an issue long term for SC. I will give them a shout and see what they say.

This is from Sierra's online documentation, regarding Rithmic/ZenFire:

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For those interested in discussing Sierra's Worksheet System for Trading formulas and functionalities, I have started a new thread here:



The worksheets systems of Sierra Chart provide a powerful way to build auto-trading systems and complicated alerts without C++ programming, using Excel-compatible worksheets. This is especially useful for those who already have a working knowledge of spreadsheets.

For non-programmers, it totally blows away NinjaTrader's Strategy Wizard.

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A few weeks ago I downloaded SC and started learning the basics and getting it set up like I wanted. Last week, I used it in sim on Monday and then live the rest of the week. The following are my impressions and comparison to NT. I have never used MC, so my comments on that are based upon what I have read from other members. Also I am only commenting on the features I have used. I haven't used the TPO, full DOM, worksheet editor, or automation capabilities.

The good, in no particular order,

1) Greater plotting options for indicators, including the ability to color plots based upon +/-, slope, and the base graph. You can plot the name labels and value lables independently in any combination to the right, far right, left, far left, above, centered, below, or on the values scale (price axis). There are considerably more draw and line styles available. The end results is that you don't have recode canned indicators to get them to the way you want as you have to do with NT. Every system indicator that I used in NT was modified in some way, in SC I am not using a single modified system indicator.

2) Easily create alerts based upon indicators using formulas without custom programming in any combination of reset on new bar, alert only once per bar, or evaluate on bar close. Sierra Chart - Study Alerts And Scanning

3) It has a Chart DOM, which I think is awesome. After a week, I would not go back to trading without this feature.

4) Tabbed interface, but you can still detach windows from the workspace NT style if you like.

5) The replay is significantly better than NT. Similar to MC, you don't have to disconnect and reconnect to use it, and oh yeah, it hasn't crashed once.

6) SC provides historical tick backfill for most futures, so you don't have to pay for a separate data subscription if your broker does not provide it, e.g. Velocity and IB.

7) SC installs similar to the old DOS style, i.e. no changes are made to the Windows registry. What that means is that you can easily make backups by simply copying the SC directory, and you can run multiple instances with the same or differnet settings on the same computer, and you can easily synchronize different computers or migrate to a new computer by simply cutting and pasting. IMO this is a really nice feature.

8) It turns out that SC does have a built in editor to create custom indicators and modify current ones. Similar to easy lanquage, it requires a fraction of the code to accomplish the same thing as in NT. It also has a worksheet editor so some programming can be preformed in an excel type fashion. For my needs, both options seems more than adequate, but due to limited experience I can't speak to it fully just yet.

9) SC hasn't crashed once since I have been using it.

10) SC is an incredible bargain for what you get. It's a fraction of the cost of NT and MC and free if you trade through Velocity. If you trade through Veloctity, your commissions are also cheaper than using NT, and among the cheapest around.

11) It's quite a bit faster than NT. Side by side, the same charts update faster and I am not getting the "not responding" everytime I click on the data series menu, indicator menu, the input series, etc.

The bad,

1) There are actually so many options compared to NT, that learning them all and being able to find some of them a second time can't take some time. And while there is a myriad of chart settings, some of them such as bar colors and styles are persistant between charts, where they should be customizeable for each chart.

2) Hot keys are not programmable, so you will have to learn new ones. This and Item 1 have made for a steeper learning curve than NT.

3) The performance reporting is pretty weak. You can only filter by instrument, there is no custom reporting based upon ATM strategy, segregating winners from losers, etc. There is only a "Trade Activity Log" that can be filter by instrument. The reality is that NT performance reporting was completely unreliable beyond the current day due to the accumulation of errors, so running reports for extended periods was useless, but on days where there were no problems it was nice to have some quick detailed stats available during the day. For me this is the biggest weakness of SC.

4) There is only 1 sim account, this combined with item 3 make it more difficult to track multiple strategies.

5) No out of the box multi-series capabilities. It may be possible to program, but I am still not sure at this point. I know you can't load two different time frames on the same chart and drag and drop indicators from one series to plot on the second series. That said, since this feature was so poorly implemented in NT7, I never actually used it and so it isn't something that I am missing, but at the same time I would like it to be added. If you rely on this capabability though, then SC is probably not a good option for you.

6) Multi-broker/data connections are way too complicated. In NT7 you had to pay extra for a multi-broker license, which you don't have to do in SC, but the implementation was simpler in NT7. In SC you have to have multiple instances running and map to the data folders and set up primary and secondary mappings for each symbol. So while it's more flexible than NT, it's considerably more cumbersome to set up.

7) Fewer people are using it and accordingly there are fewer customizations available. I love playing with new indicators and trying to develop new strategies with them, etc., so I will have to use the free version of NT to look at the new stuff other people have programmed.

8) I don't use a full DOM in trading anymore, and I have only played with it a little bit, but I am guessing that most people would find the NT DOM superior.

It's still early, but IMO SC is better in almost every respect compared to NT, insofar as my needs for a trading platform are concerned. I still plan to look at MC7 when it comes out and it's still early, but unless problems start creeping up, I think MC will have to blow my socks off for me to consider switching and paying the considerably higher price.

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Wow thanks for the detailed review @vegasfoster, I'm glad you are enjoying it!

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5) No out of the box multi-series capabilities. It may be possible to program, but I am still not sure at this point. I know you can't load two different time frames on the same chart and drag and drop indicators from one series to plot on the second series. That said, since this feature was so poorly implemented in NT7, I never actually used it and so it isn't something that I am missing, but at the same time I would like it to be added. If you rely on this capabability though, then SC is probably not a good option for you.
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@vegasfoster, you can have multiple data series and studies onthe same chart, the way to do this is different from other platform cos u need to load a separate chart and then use the overly studies to reference the chart and studies u want to plot on the same chart. There are a lot of functionality on this feature.


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6) Multi-broker/data connections are way too complicated. In NT7 you had to pay extra for a multi-broker license, which you don't have to do in SC, but the implementation was simpler in NT7. In SC you have to have multiple instances running and map to the data folders and set up primary and secondary mappings for each symbol. So while it's more flexible than NT, it's considerably more cumbersome to set up.
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They are planning to add this feature on the same SC istance, bat there's no eta, cos I think this is a big change on the SC strcture.

The other good thing is the really fast responsive support board, if there is some feature that is not working right, just post it and they will fix it with a new release, they are also quite open mind to the customers requests.

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1) There are actually so many options compared to NT, that learning them all and being able to find some of them a second time can't take some time. And while there is a myriad of chart settings, some of them such as bar colors and styles are persistant between charts, where they should be customizeable for each chart.

CHART --> GRAPHIC SETTINGS will let you customize individual charts.

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with Sc you can also have multiple configuration or settings open at the same time, since I have more than 24 charts up sometimes this is a nice feature and not possible with NT

 
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1) There are actually so many options compared to NT, that learning them all and being able to find some of them a second time can't take some time. And while there is a myriad of chart settings, some of them such as bar colors and styles are persistant between charts, where they should be customizeable for each chart.

Agree on high learning curve. You can customize colors per chart, but again it is not obvious. Chart -> Graphic Settings, turn off the use global option, and then you can override for a chart.


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2) Hot keys are not programmable, so you will have to learn new ones. This and Item 1 have made for a steeper learning curve than NT.

I asked them to add this, not sure they were too interested even though it should be trivial to add. Seems people use AutoHotKey to do it instead. I dont really like having another program to do this, but AHH can provide more function like macros above and beyond key mapping.


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3) The performance reporting is pretty weak. You can only filter by instrument, there is no custom reporting based upon ATM strategy, segregating winners from losers, etc. There is only a "Trade Activity Log" that can be filter by instrument. The reality is that NT performance reporting was completely unreliable beyond the current day due to the accumulation of errors, so running reports for extended periods was useless, but on days where there were no problems it was nice to have some quick detailed stats available during the day. For me this is the biggest weakness of SC.

This is one of my main beefs. If you are running Rithmic as your feed, you can run R-Trader along side it. R-Trader provides a decent way of tracking your orders/positions/pnl while still trading from the SC charts/DOM.


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5) No out of the box multi-series capabilities. It may be possible to program, but I am still not sure at this point. I know you can't load two different time frames on the same chart and drag and drop indicators from one series to plot on the second series. That said, since this feature was so poorly implemented in NT7, I never actually used it and so it isn't something that I am missing, but at the same time I would like it to be added. If you rely on this capabability though, then SC is probably not a good option for you.

It is there, but it is very different. The model is to not put multiple timeframes/symbols on the same chart. Instead, you build up different charts, and then in the indi you just reference the other chart/study/study array. There are some built in indi to do this, but you really need to program it depending on what you want.


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6) Multi-broker/data connections are way too complicated. In NT7 you had to pay extra for a multi-broker license, which you don't have to do in SC, but the implementation was simpler in NT7. In SC you have to have multiple instances running and map to the data folders and set up primary and secondary mappings for each symbol. So while it's more flexible than NT, it's considerably more cumbersome to set up.

The model is a little strange, but on the flip side it seems to work rather well. SC is so light weight, that running multiple instances does not seem to bog down your system at all. I am currently running 3 instances to use IQ Feed, and two brokers, and it is a non-issue. Someone said they were working on improving this.

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I'm setting up Sierra Chart.

I am using IQFeed, and it's asking for an intraday data storage time unit:
Sierra Chart - Data/Trade Service Settings

I am guessing I should be using 1 tick. I want to use 1 tick, as long as it isn't slow and doesn't crash Sierra Chart. Just looking for feedback from other users, are you using 1 tick or 1 second?

Second question, storing bid & ask data and # of records setting. What are you guys using for # of records? The default for me was 1,000 but the website says recommend 5,000 and even mentions 100,000. I have 12GB of memory so memory is not a concern, except of course that SC is probably a 32-bit app and I don't want it to crash. Looking to see what you guys are using and why.

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Yay!



My first chart with SC.

OK so another question... IQFeed has historical bid/ask, so why is the 'Bid and Ask Depth Bars' study not showing historical data?

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Ok one more. I even read the manual on "scaling", and I can't find anywhere how to change the height of panel 2 and 3...



I want them to be smaller in height (occupy less screen real estate). I tried all the scaling options but nothing is allowing me to scale the entire 'panel 2' and 'panel 3' in terms of height in relation to the entire chart.

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I'm setting up Sierra Chart.

I am using IQFeed, and it's asking for an intraday data storage time unit:
Sierra Chart - Data/Trade Service Settings

I am guessing I should be using 1 tick. I want to use 1 tick, as long as it isn't slow and doesn't crash Sierra Chart. Just looking for feedback from other users, are you using 1 tick or 1 second?

Second question, storing bid & ask data and # of records setting. What are you guys using for # of records? The default for me was 1,000 but the website says recommend 5,000 and even mentions 100,000. I have 12GB of memory so memory is not a concern, except of course that SC is probably a 32-bit app and I don't want it to crash. Looking to see what you guys are using and why.

Mike

Welcome to Sierracharts, give yourself a month daily use and digging into the manuals before you throw this gem away. You are a highly educated and experienced chart user, you will be delighted with sierracharts. If you have a specific question don't hesitate to use their forum (and double post it here so we all can learn) they have some team looking at it because they react very fast. If it's not possible they will say NO without hesitation, I like that.

I use ticks and 10.000. Are you using level 5 ? I have because I use a variant of their TPO.

It's not going to crash, it can take a while to load the data but once it's loading, it's blistering fast and light. Remember that later on you will understand more how to set it up and sierracharts will perform better.

 
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I'm setting up Sierra Chart.

I am using IQFeed, and it's asking for an intraday data storage time unit:
Sierra Chart - Data/Trade Service Settings

I am guessing I should be using 1 tick. I want to use 1 tick, as long as it isn't slow and doesn't crash Sierra Chart. Just looking for feedback from other users, are you using 1 tick or 1 second?

Second question, storing bid & ask data and # of records setting. What are you guys using for # of records? The default for me was 1,000 but the website says recommend 5,000 and even mentions 100,000. I have 12GB of memory so memory is not a concern, except of course that SC is probably a 32-bit app and I don't want it to crash. Looking to see what you guys are using and why.

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@Big Mike, storing 1tick is not a problem, it could be a little if u use a long backfilling charts based on 1 tick, is becomes very slow to loading data.

Storing bid and ask refers to time and sales data and level 2 data, so it depends on your needs, it dosen't matter for the level 1 data.

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Ok one more. I even read the manual on "scaling", and I can't find anywhere how to change the height of panel 2 and 3...



I want them to be smaller in height (occupy less screen real estate). I tried all the scaling options but nothing is allowing me to scale the entire 'panel 2' and 'panel 3' in terms of height in relation to the entire chart.

Mike

This study depends on level 2 data, your datafeed has to provide it( I see you have it on charts), and on the bid ask you are storing, so it backfill only if u are continuously storing that data.

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Ok one more. I even read the manual on "scaling", and I can't find anywhere how to change the height of panel 2 and 3...

I want them to be smaller in height (occupy less screen real estate). I tried all the scaling options but nothing is allowing me to scale the entire 'panel 2' and 'panel 3' in terms of height in relation to the entire chart.

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Under Tools--> Adjust Region

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I use ticks and 10.000. Are you using level 5 ? I have because I use a variant of their TPO.

Why 10,000? Why not more? I have more or less unlimited disk space, so why limit it? If the number is too high will SC fail?

We're talking about how much Bid and Ask data it is storing, right?

Yes, SC level 5.

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Set it to the maximum and see what happens. I guess I don't need more than 10.000 ? I had to look it up for your question, I don't even remember changing it.

 
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Last two things and bed time for me.



(1) How can I get the chart trading buttons on the panel to the left moved so that it is to the right of the price axis?

(2) How can I adjust the margin of panel 1 so that there is some room between the top and bottom (high and low) of price so that bars don't go right up to the top or bottom of the panel -- as you can see here it is causing the Depth graph to be missing all the bid information because it is below the margin area.

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Hi Mike

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(1) How can I get the chart trading buttons on the panel to the left moved so that it is to the right of the price axis?

Go to Chart Settings>2. Tab>Attach trade Window to right side

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(2) How can I adjust the margin of panel 1 so that there is some room between the top and bottom (high and low) of price so that bars don't go right up to the top or bottom of the panel -- as you can see here it is causing the Depth graph to be missing all the bid information because it is below the margin area

Right Click in the price axis, then you can choose what you want >scaling, moving, adjusting. If "moving" ist checked you can scale with strg + left mouse button
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Thx. Getting there.

The solution to #2 though seems to imply it won't auto scale though, so I would have to continuously adjust this throughout the day to add my own top and bottom margins. In MultiCharts (and I think NT if I remember) there was an option for how much margin to add above/below the top and bottom bar displayed in the price panel. I'm just used to seeing things a certain way, so the first thing I do is try to make it look like I am used to it looking

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As far as I remember there was something in the support board from kiwi to add top/ bottom margins.
But I am not sure.

After a year of using SC, it is good to see others seeing value in the stability (I can't remeber when SC crashed the last time) and flexibility SC offers.

 
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@ vegasfoster, you can have multiple data series and studies onthe same chart, the way to do this is different from other platform cos u need to load a separate chart and then use the overly studies to reference the chart and studies u want to plot on the same chart. There are a lot of functionality on this feature.

OIC, I was looking for "multi-series". And even on range bars it works exactly like it should, that's awesome, thank you!

 
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Last two things and bed time for me.

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How can I adjust the margin of panel 1 so that there is some room between the top and bottom (high and low) of price so that bars don't go right up to the top or bottom of the panel -- as you can see here it is causing the Depth graph to be missing all the bid information because it is below the margin area.

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right click on price, range, adjust to see top and bottom, right click on price again, select constant range, auto center.

 
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Thx. Getting there.

The solution to #2 though seems to imply it won't auto scale though, so I would have to continuously adjust this throughout the day to add my own top and bottom margins. In MultiCharts (and I think NT if I remember) there was an option for how much margin to add above/below the top and bottom bar displayed in the price panel. I'm just used to seeing things a certain way, so the first thing I do is try to make it look like I am used to it looking

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The best I have come up with so far is to add two invisible studies that "add" the extra margin

Study Subgraph Add Input = High, Add = Depends on the chart, I use 0.25 for AAPL, Draw Style = Do Not Draw

Study Subgraph Subtract, Input = Low and the rest is the same as above.

Not perfect IMHO but better than nothing.

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Infinity AT now has charting, I'm guessin it's the exact same as Sierra just with there name at the top. My question is if I'm using "Infinity Charts" and the Infinity AT dom, is that going to slow down my dom because all the info is coming from infinity?

 
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Gotta love the auto coloring options for plots. Great job: simplistic, fantastic.

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Infinity AT now has charting, I'm guessin it's the exact same as Sierra just with there name at the top. My question is if I'm using "Infinity Charts" and the Infinity AT dom, is that going to slow down my dom because all the info is coming from infinity?

Yes, It's SC, don't think you infinity Dom will slow down, but i know, also cos i used it, that SC has some issue with Transact API (It seems due to transact part), and SC is really slower to update price comparet to Infinity/Transact DOM,

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simplistic, fantastic

That sums up Sierra Charts :-)

I've started using it for multi time frame/multi instrument strategies which are very straight forward and reliable to implement.

 
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I also really like how you can adjust the targets and stops on pending orders before the original order is filled. I primarily use buy/sell stops in my trading, so this is a nice feature.

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Test the scale in/scale out function. It is a nice feature with the chart trading.

 
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I also really like how you can adjust the targets and stops on pending orders before the original order is filled. I primarily use buy/sell stops in my trading, so this is a nice feature.

Mike

Big Mike,

You are correct on this one. It's a great feature. In fact Sierra Charts trade from the charts feature is easier and you can do more stuff (like you describe above) than Ninja.

Good comment.

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It's a second or two slower than tradestation. One thing I cant figure out is how to get the grid to show up on the chart. I've tried everything.

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Gotta love the auto coloring options for plots. Great job: simplistic, fantastic.

Mike

Maybe there could be a "SC DOM/Chart trader webinar" from 2:00 pm to 3:00 pm US central time during last hour of cash session one day.....would like to see someone working sim trades during live market hours (see how all the typical features work).

What do you think Mike?


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