NexusFi: Find Your Edge


Home Menu

 





Vertical Initial Balance plot on Volume Profile chart


Discussion in Sierra Chart

Updated
      Top Posters
    1. looks_one Big Mike with 4 posts (1 thanks)
    2. looks_two ktrader with 3 posts (1 thanks)
    3. looks_3 RPinSC with 2 posts (0 thanks)
    4. looks_4 patrick oh with 1 posts (0 thanks)
    1. trending_up 3,698 views
    2. thumb_up 2 thanks given
    3. group 2 followers
    1. forum 9 posts
    2. attach_file 0 attachments




 
Search this Thread

Vertical Initial Balance plot on Volume Profile chart

  #1 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599

I once again turn to @ktrader as our resident Sierra Chart master programmer [any any others that can help].

I recently took a look at TPO charts within Sierra Chart and really like the vertical plot for the Initial Balance.

I would love to see this vertical plot as an option on a Volume Profile chart, and even my other charts like a 100k volume chart. And I'd like to see it expanded so that the Initial Balance extensions can also be plotted in this way (vertically). I think horizontal lines should still be an option, but the vertical plot is primarily what I am after.

The Initial Balance is the first 60 minutes of the RTH session. The extension levels are defined as percentages or multipliers, like 1.5 for the first extension meaning +50%, or 2.0 meaning +100%.

I've attached a TPO chart where this feature is built-in. The vertical cyan line is the IB plot that I am trying to get on my Volume Profile charts. If you can do this, I will thank you profusely!



And here is a mock-up of what a different chart might look like with this feature.





Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
Thanked by:

Can you help answer these questions
from other members on NexusFi?
Increase in trading performance by 75%
The Elite Circle
Trade idea based off three indicators.
Traders Hideout
Better Renko Gaps
The Elite Circle
How to apply profiles
Traders Hideout
REcommedations for programming help
Sierra Chart
 
Best Threads (Most Thanked)
in the last 7 days on NexusFi
Just another trading journal: PA, Wyckoff & Trends
34 thanks
Tao te Trade: way of the WLD
24 thanks
My NQ Trading Journal
14 thanks
HumbleTraders next chapter
11 thanks
GFIs1 1 DAX trade per day journal
11 thanks
  #2 (permalink)
 
ktrader's Avatar
 ktrader 
glostrup, denmark
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom platform
Broker: CQG
Trading: Futures, Options, Stocks
Posts: 249 since Aug 2011
Thanks Given: 152
Thanks Received: 275


Big Mike View Post
I once again turn to @ktrader as our resident Sierra Chart master programmer [any any others that can help].

I recently took a look at TPO charts within Sierra Chart and really like the vertical plot for the Initial Balance.

I would love to see this vertical plot as an option on a Volume Profile chart, and even my other charts like a 100k volume chart. And I'd like to see it expanded so that the Initial Balance extensions can also be plotted in this way (vertically). I think horizontal lines should still be an option, but the vertical plot is primarily what I am after.

The Initial Balance is the first 60 minutes of the RTH session. The extension levels are defined as percentages or multipliers, like 1.5 for the first extension meaning +50%, or 2.0 meaning +100%.

I've attached a TPO chart where this feature is built-in. The vertical cyan line is the IB plot that I am trying to get on my Volume Profile charts. If you can do this, I will thank you profusely!



And here is a mock-up of what a different chart might look like with this feature.





Mike

Okay, that should be possible... How do you define RTH - as defined by the chart or an input to the study?

--ktrader

Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599



ktrader View Post
Okay, that should be possible... How do you define RTH - as defined by the chart or an input to the study?

--ktrader

Honestly I rather have it defined by the indicator, because I feel like there are some problems with the Sierra session manager that I haven't figured out yet.

So what I didn't visualize in the example screenshot would be the extension. I just want the same vertical plot and the ability to define two or three extension levels.

I think that an additional horizontal plot option for each would be welcome as well, although I am not sure I would use it personally (need to test).

The main goal of mine is to put the IB on my profile chart.

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)
 
ktrader's Avatar
 ktrader 
glostrup, denmark
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom platform
Broker: CQG
Trading: Futures, Options, Stocks
Posts: 249 since Aug 2011
Thanks Given: 152
Thanks Received: 275


Big Mike View Post
Honestly I rather have it defined by the indicator, because I feel like there are some problems with the Sierra session manager that I haven't figured out yet.

So what I didn't visualize in the example screenshot would be the extension. I just want the same vertical plot and the ability to define two or three extension levels.

I think that an additional horizontal plot option for each would be welcome as well, although I am not sure I would use it personally (need to test).

The main goal of mine is to put the IB on my profile chart.

Mike

@Big Mike

A couple of clarifications:
If its an intraday chart of somesort, where would the best place be to place the vertical line, at the bar starting when the rth started or the bar starting where rth+length-of-initial-balance-period ?

example: on 30m chart where the rth starts at 9.30 and the ib-period is set to 60 minutes, would the line be at the 9.30 bar or the 10.30 bar?

On charts longer than one day, like 2 days or weekly etc, are there any periods that makes sense for the initial balance - i would assume not, but I only know what i have read today about usages of initial balance

I am adding some options to choose different kind of extensions, linear (x0.5, x1 , x2), fibonacci,atr and stddev i think it covers most of the extensiontypes i have seen in use for the Initial Balance.


--ktrader

Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599


ktrader View Post
@Big Mike

A couple of clarifications:
If its an intraday chart of somesort, where would the best place be to place the vertical line, at the bar starting when the rth started or the bar starting where rth+length-of-initial-balance-period ?

example: on 30m chart where the rth starts at 9.30 and the ib-period is set to 60 minutes, would the line be at the 9.30 bar or the 10.30 bar?

On charts longer than one day, like 2 days or weekly etc, are there any periods that makes sense for the initial balance - i would assume not, but I only know what i have read today about usages of initial balance

I am adding some options to choose different kind of extensions, linear (x0.5, x1 , x2), fibonacci,atr and stddev i think it covers most of the extensiontypes i have seen in use for the Initial Balance.


--ktrader

Well for a volume profile chart, I will be using a daily chart and want the bar to the left of the profile tightly aligned with it like Sierra does with a TPO chart by default.

For an intraday chart like you mentioned, personally I would rather have it at the 9:30 marker (the start of the IB), and I think it makes more sense especially for those wanting to use horizontal plots at this point. The horizontal plot should plot until the IB is over, so 9:30 - 10:30 for example.

The IB would never span two days so I think no need to worry on that.

Thank you very much for this.

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)
 RPinSC 
Carolinas
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TOS, Infinity, Sierra Charts, DTN IQ
Trading: es, etf options
Posts: 21 since Oct 2010
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 25

This is a new study that allows one to select specific time frames. I use this for a one minute, use Fill Down Trans and Fill Up Trans for the high/low respectively. This does not draw across the chart which is different the Extended version.
Ron

Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)
 RPinSC 
Carolinas
 
Experience: Intermediate
Platform: TOS, Infinity, Sierra Charts, DTN IQ
Trading: es, etf options
Posts: 21 since Oct 2010
Thanks Given: 18
Thanks Received: 25

Sorry for the bad suggestion

Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)
patrick oh
london+london/england
 
Posts: 8 since Jul 2012
Thanks Given: 3
Thanks Received: 0

how do i set that up on my charts do you have a custom study saved to make it easy thannks patrick

Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)
 
Big Mike's Avatar
 Big Mike 
Manta, Ecuador
Site Administrator
Developer
Swing Trader
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom solution
Broker: IBKR
Trading: Stocks & Futures
Frequency: Every few days
Duration: Weeks
Posts: 50,440 since Jun 2009
Thanks Given: 33,212
Thanks Received: 101,599

I also liked @arnie's use of tracking volume in the IB, as seen here:



So if one could develop the above indicator, and also a way to display the IB volume without taking a whole panel, that would be great. Is it possible to plot text right above or below the vertical plot line?

Mike

We're here to help: just ask the community or contact our Help Desk

Quick Links: Change your Username or Register as a Vendor
Searching for trading reviews? Review this list
Lifetime Elite Membership: Sign-up for only $149 USD
Exclusive money saving offers from our Site Sponsors: Browse Offers
Report problems with the site: Using the NexusFi changelog thread
Follow me on Twitter Visit my NexusFi Trade Journal Started this thread Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)
 
ktrader's Avatar
 ktrader 
glostrup, denmark
 
Experience: Advanced
Platform: Custom platform
Broker: CQG
Trading: Futures, Options, Stocks
Posts: 249 since Aug 2011
Thanks Given: 152
Thanks Received: 275



Big Mike View Post
Well for a volume profile chart, I will be using a daily chart and want the bar to the left of the profile tightly aligned with it like Sierra does with a TPO chart by default.

For an intraday chart like you mentioned, personally I would rather have it at the 9:30 marker (the start of the IB), and I think it makes more sense especially for those wanting to use horizontal plots at this point. The horizontal plot should plot until the IB is over, so 9:30 - 10:30 for example.

The IB would never span two days so I think no need to worry on that.

Thank you very much for this.

Mike

Hi,

I ran into a problem with the data not being available if running on a volume chart (if its a large volume pr. bar), so there would need to be an extra dataseries to get the high/low of a specific timeperiod (it works fine with timecharts) - because of this I wanted to find a better solution and then I honestly forgot it was in progress , except that it is more or less done. Do anyone have a suggestion for accessing the exact high/low of a timeperiod on a non-time chart (especially a chart where a bar is much larger than the entire period like a vol chart with a high volume pr. bar) - I am already aware a second dataseries can be added which is a time-series, by having a second chart with a time-series on it for the same insturment and reference that, but its a bit cumbersome.

--ktrader

Reply With Quote
Thanked by:




Last Updated on August 9, 2012


© 2024 NexusFi™, s.a., All Rights Reserved.
Av Ricardo J. Alfaro, Century Tower, Panama City, Panama, Ph: +507 833-9432 (Panama and Intl), +1 888-312-3001 (USA and Canada)
All information is for educational use only and is not investment advice. There is a substantial risk of loss in trading commodity futures, stocks, options and foreign exchange products. Past performance is not indicative of future results.
About Us - Contact Us - Site Rules, Acceptable Use, and Terms and Conditions - Privacy Policy - Downloads - Top
no new posts