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Volume Breakdown and Bid/Ask Difference studies

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I used DTN for more then a year with MD and Investor/RT and I am not convinced that DTN is accurate enough to compete on this with the pros.

BTW, DTN matches a $2000 month feed when tested consistantly......I am totally convinced DTN.IQ is exceptional for BID/ASK differential work (and I keep testing DTN on a continuing basis.....I have to, because I rely on BID/ASK differential for all of my trading).

Also, the TradeVec group found out first had the situation with BID/ASK differential datafeeds, and they have now also set up DTN.IQ feed to power their charting for those who use their new Cumulative Delta studies.

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BTW, DTN matches a $2000 month feed when tested consistantly......I am totally convinced DTN.IQ is exceptional for BID/ASK differential work (and I keep testing DTN on a continuing basis.....I have to, because I rely on BID/ASK differential for all of my trading).

Also, the TradeVec group found out first had the situation with BID/ASK differential datafeeds, and they have now also set up DTN.IQ feed to power their charting for those who use their new Cumulative Delta studies.


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Not even close, it amazes me how this issue just continues to get challenged over and over on several trading forums. I would love to not have to keep explaining the feed issue month after month to those who keep trying to prove that broker supplied data feeds are usable for BID/ASK differential work. So if this is a dead horse issue for you, then move on or at least add something that is constructive and positive......Thanks!

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Not even close, it amazes me how this issue just continues to get challenged over and over on several trading forums. I would love to not have to keep explaining the feed issue month after month to those who keep trying to prove that broker supplied data feeds are usable for BID/ASK differential work. So if this is a dead horse issue for you, then move on or at least add something that is constructive and positive......Thanks!

Why don't you come with some charts from differnt feeds to show us the differences, instead of repeat always the same things? This should be called constructive, and not only words, (why should we trust your words?).
I have post some charts here with a request for you that you had totally ingnored.
If u don't want to explain the feed issue (i never saw compared work in your posts, only words) don't do this.
Why if someone does not want to spend money (even if it had) for feeds, it can not try to find something free that maybe could work?

With all respect this is my view.

LukeG.

P.s. I think we understood that DTN.IQfeed are the best and value for money.

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Move this to a different thread ?


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Why don't you come with some charts from differnt feeds to show us the differences, instead of repeat always the same things?

I haven't seen any comparison so far either, it must be a problem. So since nobody wants to post charts from different feeds, I decided to test DTN again and compare it to TT/TA/CT4 when I am back in two weeks with SierraChart.
By the way, does anybody thought about the fact, that if most of the small traders trade on wrong data in T&S, that this is the same as trading with fib numbers ? Self fulfilling prophecy ? And if close to 70% of trades are algo/hft trading, do they care about bidxask data ?

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Move this to a different thread ?



I haven't seen any comparison so far either, it must be a problem. So since nobody wants to post charts from different feeds, I decided to test DTN again and compare it to TT/TA/CT4 when I am back in two weeks with SierraChart.
By the way, does anybody thought about the fact, that if most of the small traders trade on wrong data in T&S, that this is the same as trading with fib numbers ? Self fulfilling prophecy ? And if close to 70% of trades are algo/hft trading, do they care about bidxask data ?

look about 10 posts back , Big mike showed the difference. I hate when people jump in the middle of a conversation without atleast reading two pages prior of converstaion.

Or the difference is maybe we are busy actually trading and dont have the time to load a irregular feed just to prove to someone we don't know that it doesn't work. It was asked what feed works best for bid/ask differential work and the answeres that matter are from those who actual do this kind of analysis. Trust me I would not pay for dtn when I also have zenfire if i didnt have to. it is not a populatrity contest.

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Not even close, it amazes me how this issue just continues to get challenged over and over on several trading forums. I would love to not have to keep explaining the feed issue month after month to those who keep trying to prove that broker supplied data feeds are usable for BID/ASK differential work. So if this is a dead horse issue for you, then move on or at least add something that is constructive and positive......Thanks!

I am just now reading your post here. Maybe I should have posted something along with the dead horse icon . I thought I was doing you a favor in letting others know that you had posted about this before so you didn't have to continue to sound like a broken record. That's all... Mike has posted about it too. A lot of people ask about it and the conclusion keeps coming back to DTN IQ being the best... Soo..yeah. Didn't intend for you to take it that way.

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look about 10 posts back , Big mike showed the difference. I hate when people jump in the middle of a conversation without atleast reading two pages prior of converstaion.

Or the difference is maybe we are busy actually trading and dont have the time to load a irregular feed just to prove to someone we don't know that it doesn't work. It was asked what feed works best for bid/ask differential work and the answeres that matter are from those who actual do this kind of analysis. Trust me I would not pay for dtn when I also have zenfire if i didnt have to. it is not a populatrity contest.

Btw I will do this comparation, on the next few days I will test these feeds ZEN-FIRE, TT, DTN-IQfeed, SC backfil, using these platforms NT,SC,MD, and maybe if someone is interested and ask me I could post the results here, otherwise i will not waste my time for others.

Luke.

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Btw I will do this comparation, on the next few days I will test these feeds ZEN-FIRE, TT, DTN-IQfeed, SC backfil, using these platforms NT,SC,MD, and maybe if someone is interested and ask me I could post the results here, otherwise i will not waste my time for others.

Luke.


Due to the time and resouces it takes me, I decided to open a new thread on the Elite section.

Luke.

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fulcrum trader, i understand your frustration... you've done your part, so has big mike, i've made a few posts too. There's plenty of proof about this, if he wants to use a broker feed, let him do it.
We're just trying to spare people the time from testing out different feeds to reach the same conclusion..

btw, if there was a quality feed i could use without paying for it, i would be the first to mention it here. There's no reason i would pay for something when i can get it for free( with the exception being ninjatrader, bc i can't seem to get it to work right :argh-ninjatrader


It sucks when you have these great indicators and can't get it to work because of crappy software. Hopefully, if ninja trader really puts in an effort, they might finally get ninja 7 final version out by early 2015....(date not tentative)

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