Ok sorry to give my input no matter which may it may fall, but here it goes. I am sorry to say that we have been infiltrated by NTF. I have gone thru most of the post and see some of the same sayings at NTF: mastery, positive energy, technical’s, breathes with the market as one, doing historicals, subconscious mind, don’t look for the holy grail, horst invested few years of his life, didn’t give up, inside him, be open minded people, feel gratitude, find peace, where has your trading gotten you so far, it hasn’t been very good or you would not be here. These are just a few examples without filling up this page with them.
Yes indeed we have been infiltrated with special marketing. This my fellow room members is what is called subliminal marketing with some allure marketing mixed in. Whoever thought about this path of marketing is good and I give them my outmost respect for his or her marketing plan.
They constantly show you something good over and over and not having to try anything to sell it directly, you are just so intrigued and you will eventually inquire about them out of curiosity.
Also if you noticed almost in every video there is a pitch that you might not have noticed and it goes something like this, “this happens every day over and over again and if you knew what to look for you could be doing the same thing.” I know this perks everyone, right. That’s just where they want you.
Don’t want to make this too long but Horst I have access to GoToMeeting and I know you do as well. If you ever want to use this LIVE for 2 hours per day for 5 days and make a fool out of me, the opportunity is standing (which none of the NTF specialists do, trade live in front of a audience). Not only that on top of your $82,000 per month you could probably pick up an extra $500,000 per month from all the traders that would be banging on your door to pay for you method. Oh something that is really puzzling to me, why would you be interested in taking my fellow room members $12,000 when you are making $82,000 per month, very very very puzzling.
PS: I am not going to input anymore into this thread unless Horst takes my offer.


Thanks
Hector

This thread and its videos are more than doubtful, because:
- it's very easy to make these "real-time" videos, with a relaxing voice (with a simulation account, no pressure ). I don't have a lot of time for these pranks, but I will try to make one on Tuesday, just to show how easy it is.
- some guys are coming from nowhere, registering only to post in this thread and defend Horst. People from Chicago, like Horst...
- motive ?

Like usual, when it's too good to be true, it's because it's false.

bluemele 

My guess is futures spirit is "Julia" or another member of Masters Palace/NFT. There has been a couple members here posting that are NFT members but without clearly saying they are members. I believe Horst has not faked his abilities, but that is just my judgement. I am not a shill for NFT or any other group. I am as cautious as anyone in believing something. Ball is in other people's court. Hope everyone has a good weekend.

"NFT members "...and since it is not an opinion ,as stated, how did you know that?

He who protests too loud.....

Spirit is Horst....lesson for Horst....It is not what you say ...it is how you say it...

Horst has used the very same style of writing and verbage at another site as in the first time post under the name Futures Spirit.....absolute majority of people have a consistent writing style...myself included.

Ball IS in Horst's court....and very unlikely he will throw it back...


Trader

On of the stated purposes of the board to assist others and share knowledge.
("pay it forward")
Some of the reasons for a posting journal are to:

1. maintain a discipline
2. help ourselves identify our errors and once done to correct them
3. help ourselves identify our what we have done correctly and look to repeat them
4. from #1,#2,#3 by sharing our insights provide others an opportunity ("provide an 'ah-hah') moment

and for some people

6. seek insight and feedback from fellow board members.

Mr Hoerst feels that reviewing his videos helps him identify his thinking at the time of the trade - and if so that is great. (I haven't yet had the time/patience to sit through even one of his 20 min videos let alone twice) I shall have to try making a few myself and see if it is better/more efficient than notes about what I was thinking at the time of the trade. (currently I like my notes hand written in my notebook because it is fast and easy and I can link one note to another more easily - circle and draw a line connecting them, highlight them etc. Also it's easier to review at my leisure by simply flipping forward and back a few pages - I doubt I would review 20 min videos and I like a break from the computer.)

If Hoerst has made
$820
$8,200
$82,000
$820,000
or even
$8,200,000
in March it is entirely his business and I rejoice for his successes as I do for all others
-except those on the side of evil.

There are many ways to for any of us to lie or shade the truth:

• straight lying
• deception
• lie through omission
• false testimony (e.g. getting an "independent" person to say - oh I know him and he's the salt of the earth)
• selective adjectives (e.g. "banned" vs "blocked" from making further distasteful posts, "mentioning a cat" vs "kicking a pussy" or "kicking woman in the crotch" etc.)

What a liar doesn't recognize is the harm it does to him/her.
On this material plane level, lying hurts one character and so at a deeper level ones true self-esteem.
On the spiritual plane level, lying causes pain to one's soul.

Trading does do have to be a dirty, grubby, self-interested activity. But if we put love of money above all else then we fall prey to mammon. In one sense this is a meaning of "Have no other gods before me."

Nothing in this post is in any way passing judgment on Hoerst or anyone else.
"Judge not" is the admonition we have been given.

Futures Spirit 

... Haven't you enjoyed Horst mastery? Many have, as I see over 9000 views. -perhaps the views are on the discussion of "does he or doesn't he"? Have you felt the peace in his trading? - second only to when I'm sitting with the [COLOR=Red][I]Dalai Lama[/I][/COLOR] ... Have you felt the positive energy that he carries with him, you can feel it in his voice? - certainly I would love to "carry" such energy with me! - perhaps then I could "carry" my head high as I walk amongst my fellow man.- (sigh) love, give, admire, feel gratitude at all times, find peace with yourself and let it go… - oh yes! my guru of inner peace since the beginning of time!! (well since April 2 Chicago time )

Spoken like a true experienced trader oh Free Spirit!
.......gotta go my soul is calling for some inner peace.
[IMG]http://www.dharma-haven.org/tibetan/space.gif[/IMG]

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=2]Om Mani Padme Hum[/SIZE][/FONT], Om Mani Padme Hum, Om Mani Padme Hum,...

hector24 

Ok sorry to give my input no matter which may it may fall, but here it goes. I am sorry to say that we have been infiltrated by NTF. I have gone thru most of the post and see some of the same sayings at NTF: mastery, positive energy, technical’s, breathes with the market as one, doing historicals, subconscious mind, don’t look for the holy grail, horst invested few years of his life, didn’t give up, inside him, be open minded people, feel gratitude, find peace, where has your trading gotten you so far, it hasn’t been very good or you would not be here. These are just a few examples without filling up this page with them. Yes indeed we have been infiltrated with special marketing. This my fellow room members is what is called subliminal marketing with some allure marketing mixed in. Whoever thought about this path of marketing is good and I give them my outmost respect for his or her marketing plan. They constantly show you something good over and over and not having to try anything to sell it directly, you are just so intrigued and you will eventually inquire about them out of curiosity. Also if you noticed almost in every video there is a pitch that you might not have noticed and it goes something like this, “this happens every day over and over again and if you knew what to look for you could be doing the same thing.” I know this perks everyone, right. That’s just where they want you. Don’t want to make this too long but Horst I have access to GoToMeeting and I know you do as well. If you ever want to use this LIVE for 2 hours per day for 5 days and make a fool out of me, the opportunity is standing (which none of the NTF specialists do, trade live in front of a audience). Not only that on top of your $82,000 per month you could probably pick up an extra $500,000 per month from all the traders that would be banging on your door to pay for you method. Oh something that is really puzzling to me, why would you be interested in taking my fellow room members $12,000 when you are making $82,000 per month, very very very puzzling. PS: I am not going to input anymore into this thread unless Horst takes my offer. Thanks Hector

Hector:
Seems most people are under assumption that NFT charges a certain price of $12,000.
Not sure where you got the number from but I think your pretty far off on that.
My wife is with NFT.
I do know Horst and respect him more than any trader I know.
So, I can tell you that Horst is not pulling your leg.
I think the consistent video are enough to show his success.
I don't think Horst should show you guys any more than that.
I know NFT will offer you a free week if you feel you want to pursue it.
I am not trading live now but on SIM and doing pretty well with the same methodologies.
I think there is no Holy Grail as some seem to call it.
There is only understanding of the markets.

TechnicalTrader 

Hector: Seems most people are under assumption that NFT charges a certain price of $12,000. Not sure where you got the number from but I think your pretty far off on that. My wife is with NFT. I do know Horst and respect him more than any trader I know. So, I can tell you that Horst is not pulling your leg. I think the consistent video are enough to show his success. I don't think Horst should show you guys any more than that. I know NFT will offer you a free week if you feel you want to pursue it. I am not trading live now but on SIM and doing pretty well with the same methodologies. I think there is no Holy Grail as some seem to call it. There is only understanding of the markets.

NFT charges $10,000..........OR discount to $6,000 if you sign up during the "trial" period.

Have the youtube videos always been private?

Jeff Castille 

NFT charges $10,000..........OR discount to $6,000 if you sign up during the "trial" period.

So Are you admitting to misinformation from your previous posts as you all are?
You still aren't saying everything!

You know, if putting 3 world time clocks on your charts ain't enough to convince you hat he was trading live then I would say that you guys are unconvincable or have allterior motives in trying to get Horst to show you in real time.

Hey, How about giving me a million bucks?
OK Balls in your court

HAHA