@kunfuu247 I hear this guy is pretty good especially if you go automated ... (he's also replied to your thread at least one time and didn't promote himself)

KJ Trading Systems Strategy Factory So, interestingly enough, this is my first post on BigMikeTrading and I never thought it would be in the form of a review. I joined the forum several months ago, did a lot of reading, did a lot of testing, and eventually came across Kevin Davey's …

SMCJB 

he's also replied to your thread at least one time and didn't promote himself

You'll never see that, from Kevin. He's here to contribute, not to promote - and we're lucky to have him here.

@Tymbeline agree completely,

... unrelated, off topic and irrelevant, but I went to college at Leeds Uni! Long way away from here!

Discloser: I'm not involved financially or anyhow else with Compassfx.

The Compassfx holds a free session of Ray. My personal experience with Ray's teaching is only positive, he claims to be an institutional trader, and his classes prove it. I have not seen anything he teaches elsewhere.

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You can't go wrong with the following criteria when selecting a course or mentor:

1. Teacher was/is a professional trader. That means he traded in the pits or traded at a firm. Nevertheless, he should be (or was) registered as a professional trader.
2. The trading school must be attached to a trading firm.
3. The teacher/school must have a demonstrated track record of success.
4. Optional (but nice to have): The teacher must have a rigorous academic background.

Now, here's the not so quite catch-22, but close enough:

1. The above narrow criteria eliminates most (if not all) of the gurus who reside in the social-media/trading education cesspool.
2. Many who meet the criteria have no interest in teaching.

Don't despair. There are a few who meet the criteria, but either their courses come with a hefty price tag, or their content is free but very disjointed.

ZB23 

You can't go wrong with the following criteria when selecting a course or mentor: 1. Teacher was/is a professional trader. That means he traded in the pits or traded at a firm. Nevertheless, he should be (or was) registered as a professional trader. 2. The trading school must be attached to a trading firm. 3. The teacher/school must have a demonstrated track record of success. 4. Optional (but nice to have): The teacher must have a rigorous academic background.

I was thinking
1. Almost doesn't exist
2. Not sure I agree
3. Agree
4. Not sure I agree
Then I saw

ZB23 

Now, here's the not so quite catch-22, but close enough: 1. The above narrow criteria eliminates most (if not all) of the gurus who reside in the social-media/trading education cesspool. 2. Many who meet the criteria have no interest in teaching.

Which I completely agree with

ZB23 

Don't despair. There are a few who meet the criteria, but either their courses come with a hefty price tag, or their content is free but very disjointed.

Any you would recommend or even highlight anybody?

• Kevin Davey / @kevinkdog / KJ Trading Systems is a multiple World Champion Trader. He meets criteria 1 and 3, but not 2. Not sure how you define 4, but Kevin was an Aerospace Engineer before becoming a trader. I've come to know Kevin quite well over the years, and have met him in person 4 times, and have a lot of respect for him. I also know a lot of people in the KJ Trading Systems Community (ie people who have take his course) and everybody has only great things to say about him. Used to be a great "Ask me Anything Thread" here with pages of excellent information but somebody seems to have deleted it. (WTF @Big Mike ?) Still lots of webinars and other good content still here that Kevin created, lots on his website as well.
• Pete Hamby / The Spread Professor used to be a common poster on that other, more hostile, trading website, but it looks like he might have deleted his account and threads there. Not sure if his personal website is current, or just a dinosaur from the past. Believe he's an ex-NYMEX local/floor-trader I don't know Pete personally but I've always been very impressed with his online presence, definitely comes across as knowing what he's talking about. Also heard very good things about him and his course.

SMCJB 

Any you would recommend or even highlight anybody? Kevin Davey / @kevinkdog / KJ Trading Systems is a multiple World Champion Trader. He meets criteria 1 and 3, but not 2. Not sure how you define 4, but Kevin was an Aerospace Engineer before becoming a trader. I've come to know Kevin quite well over the years, and have met him in person 4 times, and have a lot of respect for him. I also know a lot of people in the KJ Trading Systems Community (ie people who have take his course) and everybody has only great things to say about him. Used to be a great "Ask me Anything Thread" here with pages of excellent information but somebody seems to have deleted it. (WTF @Big Mike ?) Still lots of webinars and other good content still here that Kevin created, lots on his website as well. Pete Hamby / The Spread Professor used to be a common poster on that other, more hostile, trading website, but it looks like he might have deleted his account and threads there. Not sure if his personal website is current, or just a dinosaur from the past. Believe he's an ex-NYMEX local/floor-trader I don't know Pete personally but I've always been very impressed with his online presence, definitely comes across as knowing what he's talking about. Also heard very good things about him and his course.

Kevin Davey:

I am familiar with Kevin Davey. I believe he won the World Cup Championships of Futures Trading once. Criterion #2 doesn't really apply to him, because I consider him a teacher and not an institution. If there were other instructors, I might consider him a school. Furthermore, if he did run a school, I would have to relent on this criterion, because he meets Criteria 1, 2, and 4. An engineering degree is an academically rigorous endeavor.

All in all, I would recommend him. However, I wouldn't take his course because he focuses strictly on TradeStation's EasyLanguage. However, I'm sure there are some principles that I could glean from his course.

Pete Hamby:

I actually was a student of Pete's. His price tag may be a bit pricey for many at $4,500. For me, it's on the slightly lower-end as far as what I have paid for courses previously. Pete's sessions are 1-on-1 and he emphasizes paper trading. His sessions entail scrutinizing your previous paper trades and offering blunt critiques. There are so many spread permutations that exist for traders to exploit.

To answer your question, I can only highlight the people I have engaged in the past.

Jonathan Rose:

I purchased courses from him when he ran the site ActiveDayTrader, which is now MastersInTrading. I started off with the Bond Boot Camp, then I upgraded to his Apex Program. When he transitioned over to MastersInTrading, Iost my life-time membership. But I was able to keep the courses and tools I purchased under ActiveDayTrader. Jonathan was a floor trader in the NQ pit, then in Bonds.

Charlie Cochran:

Charlie Cochran partnered with Peter Nannis to create CNFT (Cochran and Nannis Futures Trading). Cochran was a professional trader and was instrumental in building volume profile which was a variant of Peter Steidlmayer's Market Profile. To put it another way, he added the volume component to Market Profile. The man was a volume profile wizard. He could call unfair highs and unfair lows premarket damn near to a tee. Unfortunately, Cochran passed four months into my membership. After he passed, the analysis that Peter gave just wasn't as good as Charlie's.

In all fairness, Nannis is a developer and he collaborated with Cochran to create the software that assisted us in generating signals. CNFT is defunct now. Its successor is Bluewater Trading Solutions. There are some videos of Cochran's analysis there.

Quantinsti/Quantra:

I recommend them to learn quantitative trading. I completed Quantinsti's EPAT program and I have purchased several ala carte courses from Quantra.

The Python Quants:

TPQ is run by Dr. Yves Hilpisch. I have not enrolled in this course. I plan to do that in the future. I learned about Hilpisch, because he is a lecturer in the Quantinsti's EPAT program.

TastyTrade:

They have a wealth of content. And best of all, it's free. However, its corpus lacks structure.

Great Post @ZB23. It's unfortunate that this is a backwater post and won't get the recognition it deserves.

Re: Kevin.
World Championship's: Agree one 1st and two 2nd places. (Yes three top 2's). I would add that through Kevin I have met five other World Championship Winner's, two of which I communicate with regularly (So including Kevin that's 3!). The Five? Michael Cook, Tim Rayment, Kurt Sakaeda, Andrea Unger and Petra Zacek. Kevin is the guy!

Re: Jonathan Rose:
I like his blog/posts. I know this is the way (but not Kevin's way) but everything always seems to be this sounds really good, but to really see what I'm talking about you have to subscribe. And in his caae I always wonder, why if you are this good are you selling what you do? I know I really sound like a Kevin Fanboy here, but Kevin is very clear it's not easy. He also publishes a lot of research that is complete, no click here to (pay a fee and) get the end results. If you do his course he makes this very clear. Jonathan falls into the category of people that imply its easy if you do what he does, and I struggle to believe that.

Re: Hamby / Cochran / Quantinsti/Quantra / The Python Quants
Nothing to add.

Re: TastyTrade
How are they even in this conversation?

@SMCJB:

I believe Kevin also knows the current Robbin's Cup leader, Ivan Scherman.

I learned about selling options by watching Tasty's content back in 2016. The content from the period is far better than today's content. The Splash into Futures with Pete Mulmat was really good back then and is probably still good today. I don't watch their content very much these days.

Jonathan's style is different. My only critique of him is that my lifetime subscription went away when he transitioned ActiveDayTrader to MastersInTrading. Aside from that, he's really good. And when it comes to trading Bond futures and utilizing the yield curve structure into analyzing entries and exits is impeccable. No one in the trading education space/social-media isn't teaching it that way. As a result, it changed my entire approach to trading-- I abandoned the use of most indicators.

kunfuu247 

I am new here and this is my first question, I have been trading for about 2 years now with less experience in trading on the futures market S&P 500. I am looking for a (TRADING COURSE), or a mentor Please any recommendation. And how much is the course or the mentor I really need help.

In the past I've tried dozens of trading courses, systems, indicators, strategies, algos, mentors none of them had any value in hindsight. Eventually I realized it's all marketing and that no one is going to teach you a profitable trading method.

If someone had a method to teach traders how to gain clarity into the market then that could be very useful for traders attempting to create their own trading strategies.

In general: Process -> Framework -> Clarity

What I'm working on: Process Map [Process] -> Market Map [Framework] -> Probability of Regime Switch (PRS) [Clarity] -> Strategy Robustness Number (SRN) [Clarity]