phantomtrader 

Good point. The OP just joined in July: Join Date July 28th, 2020 Total Posts 7 Chats 0 Wiki Contributions 0 Sounds like a vendor setup. Good call, Kevin.

I could be wrong on this, I have been before. But if you read the OP's writings, website testimonials and YouTube comments by the master, you'll notice a high degree of similarity - "not quite right" English. It could be all different non-English speaking people writing that way, or one person generating all the content.

Also, I'd suggest people reverse image search the master's photo on his website...

kevinkdog 

I could be wrong on this, I have been before. But if you read the OP's writings, website testimonials and YouTube comments by the master, you'll notice a high degree of similarity - "not quite right" English. It could be all different non-English speaking people writing that way, or one person generating all the content. Also, I'd suggest people reverse image search the master's photo on his website...

Interesting - zero results which probably means the picture is a fake. Doesn't even connect to his website.

phantomtrader 

Interesting - zero results which probably means the picture is a fake. Doesn't even connect to his website.

tineye gives zero results

google image search links to a photo in a radaris.com profile, with home address.

https://radaris.com/p/Kim/Mangalindan/

kevinkdog 

tineye gives zero results google image search links to a photo in a radaris.com profile, with home address. https://radaris.com/p/Kim/Mangalindan/

May be the same guy involved in this ponzi scheme:

https://mnmss.com/images/1NO-LETTER-SENT-01152020-00614760.pdf

phantomtrader 

May be the same guy involved in this ponzi scheme: https://mnmss.com/images/1NO-LETTER-SENT-01152020-00614760.pdf

This is big probability he mentioned on his FB group that he has a son in UTAH, the guy is from Vietnam, and most in the FB groups are Asian, trying to learn how to trade, I am Asian as you can see in my English, my kids always correct me hehehe. You guys are the best and THANK THANK YOU everyone, I can start sleeping better now.

kevinkdog 

I call BS on this whole story. The fact that @phantomtrader uncovered "easy canel" terms on the website just confirms my suspicions.

I agree. We've been had. The joys of the Internet. You never know who's on the other side. The lack of detailed response and prevarication from the OP is telling. Most people, who responded, generously helped, and have been genuinely concerned, have spent more time on this thread than the OP.

Nolaughingmatter 

I agree. We've been had. The joys of the Internet. You never know who's on the other side. The lack of detailed response and prevarication from the OP is telling. Most people, who responded, generously helped, and have been genuinely concerned, have spent more time on this thread than the OP.

May be the thread starter was nervous about giving more details because of the alleged legal threats by the vendor?
It is normally people signing up making glowing comments about a vendor who raise suspicions about their identity, not people who start threads requesting legal help because they are trying to get out of making further payments to somebody who they think is a scammer, and threatening to sue them.
It just seems unfair to suggest somebody is a liar on no real evidence whatsoever. Not just in reference to your post, but as a general point.

matthew28 

May be the thread starter was nervous about giving more details because of the alleged legal threats by the vendor? It is normally people signing up making glowing comments about a vendor who raise suspicions about their identity, not people who start threads requesting legal help because they are trying to get out of making further payments to somebody who they think is a scammer, and threatening to sue them. It just seems unfair to suggest somebody is a liar on no real evidence whatsoever. Not just in reference to your post, but as a general point.

I respected everybody opinion, but please look the YT advertisement and I am so mad with the guy...I pasted the PONZI link in the comment with his name so that its up to all the FB Freedom Challenge member to see and verify his credentials. At least people will be aware and second check his credibility and for Cancelling the subscription, I did write an email to the support email of my subscription cancellation. Thanks

matthew28 

May be the thread starter was nervous about giving more details because of the alleged legal threats by the vendor? It is normally people signing up making glowing comments about a vendor who raise suspicions about their identity, not people who start threads requesting legal help because they are trying to get out of making further payments to somebody who they think is a scammer, and threatening to sue them. It just seems unfair to suggest somebody is a liar on no real evidence whatsoever. Not just in reference to your post, but as a general point.

Like I said, I could be all wrong on this, but the "vendor is a scam" twist might be genius marketing in disguise.

• Hottest thread last 14 days on this site.
• Most Viewed thread last 14 days on this site.
• The YT video linked has more views than any other recent video on that channel
• Channel's YT subscribers have gone up too since the "reveal" post

Even bad publicity is good publicity these days.


So, even if OPs intentions were pure, at the end of the day, the vendor just got a bunch of traffic, and I'd bet more business.

matthew28 

May be the thread starter was nervous about giving more details because of the alleged legal threats by the vendor? It is normally people signing up making glowing comments about a vendor who raise suspicions about their identity, not people who start threads requesting legal help because they are trying to get out of making further payments to somebody who they think is a scammer, and threatening to sue them. It just seems unfair to suggest somebody is a liar on no real evidence whatsoever.

I have not called the OP a liar. Maybe I am unfair and I can definitely be wrong, but to me this is a case of not everything is as it seems. Not much makes sense.

Please read kevindog's and phantomtrader's posts, especially the vendor's cancellation policy. They have done the research.

The OP seems perfectly capable of explaining himself but offered vague details and did not elaborate when most people in similar situations would. He can do all those things without naming the vendor. Then he claimed there were language problems, yet no one misunderstood him when he opened the topic. As an immigrant, I know people say their English (or whatever language) isn't good to get out awkward situations. Once again, I am not saying the OP is a liar, but this doesn't look right.

Additionally, his location states he is in San Francisco. I am in San Francisco. Yet, when I offered legal suggestions in San Francisco, there didn't seem to be any interest or follow-up. Maybe he doesn't want to take the legal route. Ok, fair enough, but a distressed person would probably say that and definitely talk more. With VPNs and all that, IP addresses are not always reliable.

The posters have offered suggestions that have taken years of experience, money, and sweat to accumulate. Yet, the OP has stated very little on how he wants to move forward or what he has done since opening the thread. A new post from him mentions he emailed customer service. That's it.

You don't need to close a credit card account to dispute charges by the way. The credit card company can reverse charges until the dispute is resolved. On the other hand, the OP said it's charged. Then it's closed and the vendor can't charge. I'm confused.

When people pressed for the vendor's identity, he did it quite easily even though he was supposedly scared.

If I were in this situation and I read all the posters' advice and suggestions, I would deal with the vendor directly and tell the vendor to stop threatening me or I will take legal action as well as leave online reviews about my experience. Usually, that is more than enough for a guilty party to stop harassing me (in my experience). But the OP posted the vendor's info before resolving the situation with the vendor? This sequence of events doesn't make much sense to me.


I am aware that I can be wrong but this just doesn't seem right. Apologies if I am wrong.