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Surely, instead of re-inventing the wheel, they would produce a knockoff of what already works.
Of course, if there are existing Healthcare companies already producing ventilators, and they have the capacity to produce them in the required quantities, it would seem odd they are not used.
If a healthcare company does not build ventilators, I'd say they have no more skill than the car makers.
In terms of feelings towards Healthcare companies. They are there to make money for their shareholders. Originally perhaps, companies were formed to "do good", but money soon takes over.
Healthcare companies (generally) don't release working products that will harm their bottom line. For instance, there has long been a pill that will cure the common cold in a day or so. That is not as profitable as a 6 day supply (along with vitamins, nasal sprays, cough drops etc ), plus kleenex, not to mention the infection rate would be dramatically lower which further hits sales of the above items.
Last night i talked to my brother in sweden told him to be careful. He laught and said i already had it last week and are back to work now my wife is in bed sick like hell and fewer and coffing and our daughter already had it the same time i did and want to go back to school but 50% of her school mates have it aswell. He said if you have been sick tha last couple of months you probably had it already.
Yes, problem here is there is serious misinformation about outbreak dates, by the time China admitted to having outbreak it was already Pandemic level, head of WHO purposefully denied this and even kept praising China for its "good work", I hear he is also corrupt and communist
Basically we were done if by data fudging, corruption and bunch of uneducated stupid leaders. To make matters worse ordinary public was also systematically duped by people who produce masks and sanitizers.
She is Chinese doctor, giving account of things
"Things were already serious when Chinese new year began"
Usually that starts in end of Jan and lasts for 15 days, by then Chinese were already shopping for face masks from anywhere they could get.
Your below statement is not accurate and in this extermely serious situation, we need facts and not to be diverted by misinformation:
"Yes, problem here is there is serious misinformation about outbreak dates, by the time China admitted to having outbreak it was already Pandemic level, head of WHO purposefully denied this and even kept praising China for its "good work", I hear he is also corrupt and communist"
A pandemic is a world wide epidemic, so in the early stages the WHO was correct in saying it was an epidemic, since it was confined to China and a few cases in a handfull of other countries. There was no denial by the WHO. It is easy to accuse someone of corruption.
Did the US behave much differently than China, in the early phases? One might look at the denial by the US "leadership" - which is of course sqeaky clean, utterly ethical, a model of high values and without corruption (sarcasm). In the early phases of the virus in the USA, when everyone could see 4 - 6 weeks of observable carnage in China, this non-communist leadership lied, obfuscated and downplayed the threat to the general population (as did China in the first weeks). The US refused to plan and prepare and then had to quickly reverse its stance and play catch up. In the meantime the Virus has spread massively. Others in this thread have posted details on the huge problems the US public health system will face, due to the way it has been set up and (under) funded. I won't repeat that.
I've been tracking this since case number was less than 3k, I completely disagree with your assumption here that I'm accusing China of something. It is very serious crime on end of both China and WHO for trying to underplay it on world monitors when in reality they were busy making the doctors who found about this sign a "confession of spreading rumors". Even I could tell at that sage that it was going to be Pandemic and not just epidemic due to it being month of Chinese new years, I would assume WHO having slightly more intelligent and well informed people leading it than I'm.
Result of which was Chinese new-year returnees from Iran and Italy went back to Iran and Italy after spending their holidays in China. One belt one road is very very big project and mostly only Chinese workers and engineers work on it across EU and Asia.
Note in same video Chinese guy arguing "how overreaction by adopting restrictions can hinder...something something" around 1:40
There is difference between waiting for graves to pull out everywhere before declaring something Pandemic and clearly acting on something which was potentially Pandemic by declaring it so, which WHO did just "9 Days ago", even by your calculation that should be little late. WHO was busy before this in giving virus some name that indicated it didn't come from China and China was busy convincing its people that it came from US and not homegrown.
Which further resulted in other countries being late to seal down their own borders. Now whom to blame? China and WHO right? I think all those dead and their relatives and all those people who are going to die in future will agree here with me.
Fyi, these are all facts. Not accusations. And suppressing this would be equivalent in giving something like this free pass in future as well.
Even he could tell the "potential of problem" and giving out warning as early as Jan 2020.
Then there is this-
Chinese nationals buying masks from outside China in huge bulks and selling them in China as early as before start of Chinese new years.
Around 13 min
Check video post dates. Just for informational purpose. Draw your own conclusions
Last Dino
I'm puzzled at your response, as it seems you have not read my response properly (or I have not expresses it well).
Some points:
A) (Unless I have misread your text) You accuse the head of the WHO as being corrupt and communist and Chinese that is what I am responding to.
B) You state that the Chinese repressed information in the early phases. Yes, of course they did that and brutally so, as was covered in many reutable news sources and your examples above. Was I arguing otherwise? No. (In fact many have pointed out months ago, that this enabled the spread of the virus, including its international spread).
C) Additional to (B), my reply was as follows and (Note the context, "in the early phases").
"Did the US behave much differently than China, in the early phases? . One might look at the denial by the US "leadership" - which is of course sqeaky clean, utterly ethical, a model of high values and without corruption (sarcasm). In the early phases of the virus in the USA, when everyone could see 4 - 6 weeks of observable carnage in China, this non-communist leadership lied, obfuscated and downplayed the threat to the general population (as did China in the first weeks). The US refused to plan and prepare and then had to quickly reverse its stance and play catch up.".
Am I saying that the US brutally cracked down, as did the Chinese? No. But the intentions were the same. In the early phases of the virus: Try to preserve your political power and lie, obfiscate, attack others and use the media to muddy the waters on the scientific facts. Just like in China. Result: Greater spread of the virus and trying to play catch -up, after the horse has bolted. Couple that with political ineptitude, an underfunded public health system and a history of persecuting or ignoring expert scientific advice, years of polarising the public and a rush towards gun buying.....that is dynamite.
What I cannot understand is the delusional inaction and of these Western political "leaders", when we have all seen for weeks and weeks, the carnage in Wuhan unfolding, writ large on the international stage.
Anyway, enough said. Rather than continue with this line of argument, I would prefer to keep asking:
1) Are our political leaders trying to save their reputations and power base and disseminating mis-information, or are they following good science in this emergency?
2) What have other cultures implemented, to successfully reduce the infections and deaths (so far) and has that worked? Singapore and Taiwan have had huge successes (so far). Why is that?
3) Once the emergency has passed, are our political leaders going to roll back the emergency powers or are they going to keep a higher level of surveillance in place (higher even, that we have now - tragically)?
I'll stop here and continue to read reputable news sources with these 3 questions in the back of my mind.
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