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Vinny E-Mini & Algobox Review TRADE ROOM

 
 
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Hello Analytic,

Can you please refer me to regulated 3rd party trading auditors? This way I know who they are and I can read on them for my own learning.

Thank you,

1) https://collective2.com/

2) https://www.striker.com/

3) https://www.worldcupchampionships.com/

4) https://robbinstrading.com/autotrade/

5) https://financial-competitions.com/

6) https://big4accountingfirms.org/

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Question for those who know: can Vinny disable your software remotely when he revokes your license? And does he? Is revocation something that happens often, or that people are told will happen often?

I think I read that, but I'm not sure and it obviously matters.

It would not be wrong or improper, if it is in the agreement, for him to turn it off when the license is revoked. But it does affect the question of whether you can just pay your money and not worry about how he treats his members.

And does he revoke it if he bans you from the room? That would tighten the screw a bit, if so.

Bob.

1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Not sure how often it happens but I know 3 people that bought it and all three had their licenses deactivated for various reasons
4) Once the 3rd party NT8 add on license is deactivated the software will be disabled.
5) Usually a room ban is followed by a license deactivation. I know of only one case where this appears not to have happened.

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1) Yes
2) Yes
3) Not sure how often it happens but I know 3 people that bought it and all three had their licenses deactivated for various reasons
4) Once the 3rd party NT8 add on license is deactivated the software will be disabled.
5) Usually a room ban is followed by a license deactivation. I know of only one case where this appears not to have happened.

I see.

So you're saying that if you paid for the software and Vinny has a problem with you, you are out what you paid and will lose the use of the software. Nothing to trade with.

That's total dependence.

Who would accept that?

This does explain why they seem so eager to please him.

Thanks for the info.

Bob.

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Good Morning caacapital,


1. Is the $125K profits made From July 2021 to October 2021 in the video below from starting time 47:00 to 55:00 Real or Fake? The answer choices is

A. Yes because of ......?
B. No because of .......?
C. I do not know, but from my experience..........?

C I dont know, but from my experience it doesnt matter if he is making money it wont transfer to you making money he is a discretionary trader he doesn't take all signals his software dynamically creates zones and targets where when you look back on them they always worked.


[yt]https://www.youtube.com/c/yengy/videos[/yt] : is the only student I could find that is using Algobox properly not sure if she is still a student.

I said go with the trail its not enough time to actually start trading live but it will give you a clue on how its works like it said earlier you need a dedicated PC a min of 10700K. Start watching his tutorial videos because when he schedules a call with you he will probably test you on how "serious" you are about learning

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Does anyone think these videos will help generate sales?


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Does anyone think these videos will help generate sales?


LOL, this is silly

 
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C I dont know, but from my experience it doesnt matter if he is making money it wont transfer to you making money he is a discretionary trader he doesn't take all signals his software dynamically creates zones and targets where when you look back on them they always worked.


[yt]https://www.youtube.com/c/yengy/videos[/yt] : is the only student I could find that is using Algobox properly not sure if she is still a student.

I said go with the trail its not enough time to actually start trading live but it will give you a clue on how its works like it said earlier you need a dedicated PC a min of 10700K. Start watching his tutorial videos because when he schedules a call with you he will probably test you on how "serious" you are about learning

Thank you for the response caacapital. I really appreciate it.

 
 
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at 44:00 that says it all.

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2 years ago (or something like that) Vinny was active on Collective2.

For some time he was successful.

But then , within a couple of days, he lost 80 % or something like that.

He is/ was also active on Twittter.

He did everything to hide that incident.

And that was not the first "strategy"/"account" he crashed.

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If you guys want to know what is wrong with most retail trading algos it's that the results are not audited.
Most likely they will run multiple strategies from multiple accounts and show you the best performing one for the current time period:

Example: Retail Trading Vendor runs Strategies 1,2,......,N

Week 1: Shows P&L from Strategy 1 (all Strategies 1-N are run)
Week 2: Shows P&L from Strategy 2 (all Strategies 1-N are run)
.
.
Week N: Shows P&L from Strategy N (all Strategies 1-N are run)

They are only showing the highest performing strategy, They won't show all the ones they ran that have a terrible P&L.

Here is a paper that puts it into mathematical terms: https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3221798

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