Hi,

A copyright claim was received from Traders Underground pertaining to the scribd PDF link. Multiple posts quoted this link, so we've had to delete those as well.

We do not allow linking to or posting copyrighted material. Do not do it again.

Mike

Funny, considering that last part of the PDF was blatant plagiarism of the original blog which was free for all.

Eug911 

Funny, considering that last part of the PDF was blatant plagiarism of the original blog which was free for all.

And yet none of it is plagiarism or a copyright violation because it's all just market structure.

When will people learn this stuff is public domain. Hedge funds, investment banks, etc hire quants specifically to program/trade micro and macro trend structures as described by kewltech and the person claiming copyright infringement.

No one owns the idea or copyright on how markets move, yet everyone wants to claim they came up with it lol

My mentor got trolled by more kewltech people again this week and I saw a former goldman pm getting attacked on twitter for explaining how he trades because someone said it sounded like kewltech.

Did anyone ever stop to think about where kewltech got his info? Hint: he didn't just create it out of thin air.

1zach4 

And yet none of it is plagiarism or a copyright violation because it's all just market structure. When will people learn this stuff is public domain. Hedge funds, investment banks, etc hire quants specifically to program/trade micro and macro trend structures as described by kewltech and the person claiming copyright infringement. No one owns the idea or copyright on how markets move, yet everyone wants to claim they came up with it lol My mentor got trolled by more kewltech people again this week and I saw a former goldman pm getting attacked on twitter for explaining how he trades because someone said it sounded like kewltech. Did anyone ever stop to think about where kewltech got his info? Hint: he didn't just create it out of thin air.

I hear you and agree with what you are saying, but the last part of that PDF that was removed, the one that apparently belongs to the person who submitted the copyright claim here on futures.io is literally a paraphrasing of the original blog. If something like that was submitted as a paper in university, he would have been expelled from the school. In the PDF that was posted he gave credit in the start to the original content but this is something that is also sold as a course on his website ... and it makes you wonder if that original credit is given there as well (It may be, I am just speculating here). It's one thing to teach market structure, and another thing to take somebody else's work which was free for all in the first place and re-dress it up and sell it for money.

I am guessing this is one of the reasons that the original content was taken down. It's too bad.

Eug911 

I hear you and agree with what you are saying, but the last part of that PDF that was removed, the one that apparently belongs to the person who submitted the copyright claim here on futures.io is literally a paraphrasing of the original blog. If something like that was submitted as a paper in university, he would have been expelled from the school. In the PDF that was posed he gave credit in the start to the original content but this is something that is also sold as a course on his website ... and it makes you wonder if that original credit is given there as well (It may be, I am just speculating here). It's one thing to teach market structure, and another thing to take somebody else's work which was free for all in the first place and re-dress it up and sell it for money. I just find the Irony funny that is all.

The pdf I saw had the entire blog in it, and that pdf was his course material, so I think he was giving credit to his source material. I get all sides of the argument...he is claiming infringement on his interpretation of the blog, yet the blog could claim infringement on his source material....

This is why I dont talk to kewltech people about trading anymore. I was taught how to actually implement these ideas by someone that knows structure and has never read some blog written by a canadian on blogspot, but if you even say the words support lost/gained/leg = you must've stolen it from kewltech or dopetrades

Eug911 

I hear you and agree with what you are saying, but the last part of that PDF that was removed, the one that apparently belongs to the person who submitted the copyright claim here on futures.io is literally a paraphrasing of the original blog. If something like that was submitted as a paper in university, he would have been expelled from the school. In the PDF that was posed he gave credit in the start to the original content but this is something that is also sold as a course on his website ... and it makes you wonder if that original credit is given there as well (It may be, I am just speculating here). It's one thing to teach market structure, and another thing to take somebody else's work which was free for all in the first place and re-dress it up and sell it for money. I am guessing this is one of the reasons that the original content was taken down. It's too bad.

I guess you guys haven't read any trading books written? Copying something word for word and posting it on a site for money is highly illegal. Paraphrasing is subjective. Writing anything about market structure, is exactly what Zach said...not an original idea. The individual that wrote the kewltech website probably doesn't want his private blog in a pdf somewhere. As Zack also stated... where do you think Kewltech got his information? Would you complain if Kewltech sold his information? Read any book published by Wiley trading company, how many books will you read about support and resistance that basically paraphrase each other?

mehmeh 

I guess you guys haven't read any trading books written? Copying something word for word and posting it on a site for money is highly illegal. Paraphrasing is subjective. Writing anything about market structure, is exactly what Zach said...not an original idea. The individual that wrote the kewltech website probably doesn't want his private blog in a pdf somewhere. As Zack also stated... where do you think Kewltech got his information? Would you complain if Kewltech sold his information? Read any book published by Wiley trading company, how many books will you read about support and resistance that basically paraphrase each other?

Exactly.

Who cares if you pay for training or sell training as long as you didn't just copy/paste someone else's work and claim it as your own and the end-user sees benefit from the training.

I paid for training after failing to make kewltech work for me, and it worked for me, so no shame in that

1zach4 

Exactly. Who cares if you pay for training or sell training as long as you didn't just copy/paste someone else's work and claim it as your own and the end-user sees benefit from the training. I paid for training after failing to make kewltech work for me, and it worked for me, so no shame in that

I would be willing to pay you for training if it's affordable for me. Is this something you are willing to do?

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1zach4 

I don't train people, I was trained by my mentor

Is he taking on new clients?