matzero 

I'm not either in Peter's or Vinny's pack but I think that some public allegations need to be addressed to clarify the whole situation I think FIO trading community will benefit from knowing: - Can we trust people with no verified track record? - Where are long-term profitable traders using Jigsaw tools? Apparently not in their own leaderbord. So where we can find them to bust all of the allegations that nobody is profitable trading with Jigsaw? - Should we trust, that people with no verified track record can create software useful to others? - Should we take education and accept mentoring sessions from people with no verified track record? Again, I'm not here to attack or promote anything or anybody. I just think that FIO community deserves this issues to be resolved in a transparent way I saw email notifications with posts it this thread that were deleted by admins and I agree with the deletion. But if you delete this I'll begin to wonder about your true intentions. Taking a screenshot right now and waiting how this story goes

You are not in danger of deletion. No one is being deleted for criticizing or not agreeing with Jigsaw, or anyone else. The new posters who have been banned have generally arrived at futures.io for the first time just yesterday or today and started to run up their post counts with junk posts, a rule violation. Generally they seem more interested in having enough posts to comment in the Vinny review thread, although some have stopped here to leave a criticism of Jigsaw, apparently because Vinny has a thing about Jigsaw.

The sudden surge of spammers is obviously something deliberately coordinated.

No one who is not breaking site rules is affected.

Bob.

Hello Together.
i am new to jigsaw daytradr and use it with Ninjatrader8 and the ninjabroker CQG Feed.
i recognize that the market depth in ES is cutted to 30 levels instead of 50 or more (which are visible in the ninjadom)
is that normal? or have i a wrong setting or an technical topic?

thank you all for support
Gianmarco

n3xtl3v3l 

Hello Together. i am new to jigsaw daytradr and use it with Ninjatrader8 and the ninjabroker CQG Feed. i recognize that the market depth in ES is cutted to 30 levels instead of 50 or more (which are visible in the ninjadom) is that normal? or have i a wrong setting or an technical topic? thank you all for support Gianmarco

You can change the depth under market depth. Rithmic data has full depth


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n3xtl3v3l 

is that normal?

Yes it is normal with Jigsaw.

I have a CQG feed from Tradovate and also have Jigsaw. To check I just opened an ES DOM in Jigsaw, set the Market Depth in the Parameters tab of the DOM settings to 50, and I also only had 30 levels per side.

Having said that, using a DOM I have never used more than 10 levels out. I have only ever found the extended full depth useful for heatmap charts, such as Bookmap, (or Jigsaw Vista charts), when they are zoomed out to show the day's range for looking at large intraday swings. Not so much with a DOM where I always tended to be looking much more precisely at levels and wasn't really interested in any size beyond a few levels off the inside prices.
Maybe that is just me though. You could email Jigsaw support to see if they intend to increase the depth available at some point in the future.

Does anyone have any feedback on the new jigsaw 2022 course? I am brand new to tape reading.

Strategy manager:

In trading NQ or ES in this volatility I like to utilize automatic brackets when executing a trade. For instance I’ve structured it so that an automatic 40 tick stop is placed along with a first target of 40 ticks (which can easily be hit within a second or seconds on a good entry in NQ). My issue is that I don’t want to take my entire position off at 40 ticks……perhaps half or a third. Is it possible to enter multiple profit targets in the strategy manager somehow? Or if not multiple targets just a portion of the original position at profit target 1?

With this insane volatility it’s very beneficial to have that automatic PT one but obviously you want runners to remain on. I realize you can set “offset” to only apply to a certain number of executions but then you don’t get the stops entered

lolpie 

Does anyone have any feedback on the new jigsaw 2022 course? I am brand new to tape reading.

Great place to start.

I think Jigsaw would be a good fit for my trading style. Previously to seeing Jigsaw I had envisioned some sort of trails and speedometers to monitor order flow but had not yet been motivated to write the code for it.

I am very interested in Jigsaw, BUT all the myriad videos I'm finding...

1) Seem to want to explain how the market works rather than demonstrating how to use the software.

2) Pick the absolute thickest markets to do the demonstrations where it's nearly impossible for a beginner to follow

3) Crowd a half dozen instances all on the same page while bouncing around from one instrument to the next instead of focusing on one in slo-mo.

4) Don't demonstrate the customizable features comprehensively. The videos I've seen just aren't very well organized or thought out.

I find it all very confusing. The axiom, "If you can't explain it well, you don't understand it," comes to my mind.

I imagine the video(s) I seek are out there, they're just lost in the prolific videos they've made. If anyone knows of any concise demonstrations of the software and how it is used without trying to overwhelm the viewer I would greatly appreciate a link.

Also, I have a lifetime license of NT and use them as my broker. I would be particularly interested in what the limitations are of the NT "bridge" (data costs, connections, feature limitations if any, etc)

I would like to gather as much info as possible before I do a 14-day trial so I can hit the ground running to make the most of that 2 weeks.

I just started looking at Jigsaw and have a few questions:

1. Does Jigsaw do Cumulative Delta(CD) on both BID/ASK & UpDown Tick or just one or the other; which if just one of them?
   
2. Can the CD be placed in user's preferred panel/pane say below the primary price chart panel?
   
3. Can the CD be presented in Histogram format with each bar starting from zero value; I want it on my 1 minute YM chart?
   
4. If zero value start per bar can it display zero centerline with above:green/below:red for positive/negative delta/net trade volume respectively?
   
5. IF CD can be configured for UpDown tick can it be displayed as a line style chart in same panel as the bid ask histo panel?
   
6. Do I need NT or can Jigsaw be stand alone with my NinjaTrader Broker's (NTB) data feed?

Still working out my ATMs on SIM btw what a frustrating week last to be right but stopped out on the retrace trailing offset!!

Thanks in advance /scalpers disease is not terminal
Regards all

trymph 

I just started looking at Jigsaw and have a few questions:

Any urgent questions you might want to contact Jigsaw support as nobody from Jigsaw answers a question here for month's at a time.

I have used Jigsaw so to answer your questions:

1. CD on the charts is based on transacted bid/ask volume only.
2. Yes, the CD is a chart indicator showing bars below the chart for whatever timeframe you have chosen as shown below (pictures from manual).
3-4. No, it can't be shown as a histogram. The bars are coloured for positive or negative delta.
5. It doesn't show up/down tick.
6. Jigsaw can be used standalone but it costs more if using data from Ninjatrader and it is cheaper to connect with the Jigsaw NT bridge. See below.

Jigsaw charts are pretty basic, if using Ninja brokerage their CD indicators are probably better, or you can download a free one quite easily.