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A little early .. based on Fri close .. smile ..

Will now review what're in my trading toolbox and map out my revised trading plan. Will be back ..

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I spent the past 5 hours reviewing the most recent set ups I have. I love the simplicity of the Inside Bar set up. Yet I have to consider my account size and risk limit. My heartfelt thanks to Big Mike for his posts which addressed them promptly - Great reminder for me!!

I went through the whole Perry's Platform thread again. It's very important to refresh my memory + picking up more tips on entry/exit/money management. At the beginning, I was sad and almost wanted to cry .. sigh .. What happened?

1. It's my pride. I felt like a failure giving up the Inside/Outside Bar set up UFN.
2. Remember I stayed with the original 4-Range set up in mid Apr since I was overwhelmed with the revised Methods 1 and 2 .. counting bars etc etc. I have to decide "again" whether to resume using the original 4-Range set up (which I modified to meet my preference) or adapt to one of the two new methods (using EMAs and not SMAs).
3. After going through the thread incl certain posts a few times, I adapted my ES set up with the enclosed. Major changes: Removal of SMA 40 and replacement of SMAs with EMAs.

Trading Plan for August

1. Depend on how comfortable I am using the enclosed 4-Range set up (don't know until I'm on live), only 1 1-contract trade/day for the first 2-3 days, then occasional 2-contract ones. Maximum 2-3 trades/day for the first 1-2 weeks. No over-trading.

a. 1-contract trade: PT/SL @4 and 6
b. 2-contract trade: PTs @4 and 6 with initial SL @6. Revised SL to +1 after reaching the first PT.

2. I may sim-trade for the whole week. If yes, 1- or 2-contract trades are fine. Unlimited number of trades for practice (must be valid signals).

3. Trading Hours: 9:40 am to 11:30 am (Primary) | 1:45 am to 3:30 pm (Optional) | SOH when there's important news (15 minutes before and after) and 2:30 pm - 3:00 pm (Bond closing)

4. Continue with Market Profile and the CCI chart serves to get me out of a trade when it's not working.

5. 6E (9:00 am to 11:00 am) - Using the same set up and Market Replay in the evenings. Why? I learned that 6E trades at a wider range than ES esp when it's moving/trending. I sim-traded several strategies on 6E before and did notice its wider price movement. It maybe a candidate between ES and CL - a perfect match for me?! Will explore.

Wish me luck! Smile.

Beth

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I spent the past 5 hours reviewing the most recent set ups I have. I love the simplicity of the Inside Bar set up. Yet I have to consider my account size and risk limit. My heartfelt thanks to Big Mike for his posts which addressed them promptly - Great reminder for me!!

I went through the whole Perry's Platform thread again. It's very important to refresh my memory + picking up more tips on entry/exit/money management. At the beginning, I was sad and almost wanted to cry .. sigh .. What happened?

1. It's my pride. I felt like a failure giving up the Inside/Outside Bar set up UFN.
2. Remember I stayed with the original 4-Range set up in mid Apr since I was overwhelmed with the revised Methods 1 and 2 .. counting bars etc etc. I have to decide "again" whether to resume using the original 4-Range set up (which I modified to meet my preference) or adapt to one of the two new methods (using EMAs and not SMAs).
3. After going through the thread incl certain posts a few times, I adapted my ES set up with the enclosed. Major changes: Removal of SMA 40 and replacement of SMAs with EMAs.

Trading Plan for August

1. Depend on how comfortable I am using the enclosed 4-Range set up (don't know until I'm on live), only 1 1-contract trade/day for the first 2-3 days, then occasional 2-contract ones. Maximum 2-3 trades/day for the first 1-2 weeks. No over-trading.

a. 1-contract trade: PT/SL @4 and 6
b. 2-contract trade: PTs @4 and 6 with initial SL @6. Revised SL to +1 after reaching the first PT.

2. I may sim-trade for the whole week. If yes, 1- or 2-contract trades are fine. Unlimited number of trades for practice (must be valid signals).

3. Trading Hours: 9:40 am to 11:30 am (Primary) | 1:45 am to 3:30 pm (Optional) | SOH when there's important news (15 minutes before and after) and 2:30 pm - 3:00 pm (Bond closing)

4. Continue with Market Profile and the CCI chart serves to get me out of a trade when it's not working.

5. 6E (9:00 am to 11:00 am) - Using the same set up and Market Replay in the evenings. Why? I learned that 6E trades at a wider range than ES esp when it's moving/trending. I sim-traded several strategies on 6E before and did notice its wider price movement. It maybe a candidate between ES and CL - a perfect match for me?! Will explore.

Wish me luck! Smile.

Beth

Beth,

I think that someone that works as hard as you do deserves to be successful. I don't know if luck plays a role in this game or not. Sometimes I think it does, so I do wish you the best of luck, but I do agree with Mike. Like the saying goes, Plan your Trades and Trade your plan.

Now for my questions. 1. I see you target 4 tics with a stop of 6. I guess that is ok if you expect to have a high % success rate. Is that the idea.

2. In looking at your range chart I see the long after the ABC. That gave you much more than 4 ticks, so could you make your target based on something other than a set 4 tics. For example, when the force index changes color or you get a close below a moving average. Something to allow you to benefit from the move.

3. Do you consider yourself to be a scalper?

4. Did you create the ABC indicator? Do any particular factors need to be in place for it to indicate an ABC,such as C retracing a certain % of the AB swing?

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Now for my questions. 1. I see you target 4 tics with a stop of 6. I guess that is ok if you expect to have a high % success rate. Is that the idea.

2. In looking at your range chart I see the long after the ABC. That gave you much more than 4 ticks, so could you make your target based on something other than a set 4 tics. For example, when the force index changes color or you get a close below a moving average. Something to allow you to benefit from the move.

3. Do you consider yourself to be a scalper?

4. Did you create the ABC indicator? Do any particular factors need to be in place for it to indicate an ABC,such as C retracing a certain % of the AB swing?

David

Thanks David for your kind encouragement and best wishes!

Let me address your raised questions as follows:

1. PT/SL @4 and 6 = higher successful rate based on my sim trading between Apr and Jun.

2. Yes, if the trade aligns with the ABC breakout, it should give more than 4 ticks. When I was sim-trading, it did not happen very often (or I focussed only the 4-Range entry rules) .. so I was happy with 4 most of the time. I will certainly pay attention to the ABC breakout with your kind reminder/suggestion.

Question please: Willl you kindly elaborate more on "getting a close below or above a MA"? Thanks.

3. Yes .. I am a scalper .. want to be in and out within "seconds" or minutes. If a trade is going my direction, I probably don't mind staying longer .. smile .. Plus when my account size grows bigger, I will consider enjoying occasional runners LOL!

4. The ABC indicator was a gift from a trading friend who requested me to keep it private. After going through the script a few times, I estimate that the triangles will be plotted when minimum retracement: 60 and maximum retracement: 92. I cannot figure out the logic behind the green/red arrows yet. Hopefull it will come to me in the future. As of this moment, I only watch out for breakout trades if and when I remember (not very often yet). Based on observation, they often happen overnight (before the market opens), or around lunch hour or close to 3ish when I am not trading.

Have a Great week David. Big Big Thank YOU!

Beth

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You can tell I ignored Nelson yesterday when I was occupied with system review and thread reading etc etc. He made almost 10 attempts (incl taking some "goofy" photos) to draw my attention and/or got me out of the office .. without success unfortunately. Ended up zozozo on the sofa around 7:00 pm and officially went to bed before 9:30 pm.

We have news incl Geithner's speech at 10:15 am. I just clarified an entry myth with Perry and everything good to go. Having the last piece of puzzle in good order - a Big relief!

Nelson needs attention and he's off today. I've decided to take the day off. Will market replay both ES and 6E EOD to get ready for a Great start tomorrow.

Have a Successful week everyone!

Beth

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Initial Balance: 1119.00 - 1110.25 (8.75 points)
Value Area as at 10:32 am: 1116.75 - 1114.75 - 1110.75 (6 points)
Price opened @1114.50
Today's High and Low as at 10:32 am: 1119.00 - 1110.25 (matching IB)
VPOCs: Top 1128.50 and Bottom 1095.00
Overnight High and Low: 1115.00 and 1101.75

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Thanks David for your kind encouragement and best wishes!

Let me address your raised questions as follows:

1. PT/SL @4 and 6 = higher successful rate based on my sim trading between Apr and Jun.

2. Yes, if the trade aligns with the ABC breakout, it should give more than 4 ticks. When I was sim-trading, it did not happen very often (or I focussed only the 4-Range entry rules) .. so I was happy with 4 most of the time. I will certainly pay attention to the ABC breakout with your kind reminder/suggestion.

Question please: Willl you kindly elaborate more on "getting a close below or above a MA"? Thanks.

3. Yes .. I am a scalper .. want to be in and out within "seconds" or minutes. If a trade is going my direction, I probably don't mind staying longer .. smile .. Plus when my account size grows bigger, I will consider enjoying occasional runners LOL!

4. The ABC indicator was a gift from a trading friend who requested me to keep it private. After going through the script a few times, I estimate that the triangles will be plotted when minimum retracement: 60 and maximum retracement: 92. I cannot figure out the logic behind the green/red arrows yet. Hopefull it will come to me in the future. As of this moment, I only watch out for breakout trades if and when I remember (not very often yet). Based on observation, they often happen overnight (before the market opens), or around lunch hour or close to 3ish when I am not trading.

Have a Great week David. Big Big Thank YOU!

Beth


Beth,

Okay, here is a chart of what I mean about waiting for a close below the moving average in this case. I marked it up. I also indicated that with your ABC indicator a good target for an ABC pattern is the length of the AB leg projected from C creating point D. In other words, the length of CD will equal AB. In the attached chart it worked out that way. Also, I'm assuming your 5 minute is your higher time frame chart. That is indicating long, correct? One other thought would be to trail a stop just below the low of the close of each bar. Just some opinions. I hope they are helpful. You can always move your stop to entry after a move of 4 tics and hope to catch a larger move.

By the way, I know being in a trade can be nerve racking, but i think the pros feed off of that fear. They know we feel that way so that is why price oscillates so much. Up and down and up and down. I think it is done to scare us out of positions or taking profits very early.

David

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Beth,

Okay, here is a chart of what I mean about waiting for a close below the moving average in this case. I marked it up. I also indicated that with your ABC indicator a good target for an ABC pattern is the length of the AB leg projected from C creating point D. In other words, the length of CD will equal AB. In the attached chart it worked out that way. Also, I'm assuming your 5 minute is your higher time frame chart. That is indicating long, correct? One other thought would be to trail a stop just below the low of the close of each bar. Just some opinions. I hope they are helpful. You can always move your stop to entry after a move of 4 tics and hope to catch a larger move.

By the way, I know being in a trade can be nerve racking, but i think the pros feed off of that fear. They know we feel that way so that is why price oscillates so much. Up and down and up and down. I think it is done to scare us out of positions or taking profits very early.

David

Hi David

My heartfelt thanks for marking up the chart. I now understand how to stay longer and wait for a close below the MA or trail a stop using the close of each bar.

When I tried to figure out the logic behind the green/red arrows (indicate potential entry I believe), I came across an aggressive entry suggestion, ie 50% of the length of BC. It happened to match your suggested entry 1096 (C 1094.25 + 1/2*(B 1097.75 - C 1094.25)). Do I get it right? Or you have a different method in getting the suggested entry price? If yes, hope you will enlighten me again. Thank you!

On my notes, ABC breakout trades = price has to break out or down point B .. the safer/conservative approach.

Beth (Just came back from a drive to the Swan Lake, visited Organic Garage (lots of organic goodies at bargain prices) and a quick Vietnamese lunch.)

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I am writing them out so that I will have a clearer picture on how to spot high probability trades incl trade management when I'm in a trade.

1. Switchover from SMA to EMA Mostly Method 1 as Method 2 (green/red bar) does not happen as often. Used to be quite overwhelming. No longer after doing more homework. Actually I like the specific entry rule on price, ie 1 tick above or below the HH or LL of the the 5 bars once we have a set up bar. Once I have all the entry conditions, I place a Buy/Sell Stop order with predetermined PT/SL orders .. waiting for it to get triggered and relax .. haha ..

Note: The original SMA does not have the price entry suggestion.

2. 4-Range Set Up is primary while the MP 30-minute and CCI 5-minute ones are secondary.

3. Will cushion 2-contract trades very soon .. when I get a better feel on the set up/signals. Looking at historical data seemed easy/simple. I will do more Market Replay .. Practice makes perfect! Then for the second contract, I may adjust PT 6 to 8 or more when it's an ABC breakout or most indicators look positive.

Note: I did try PT 8 for the second contract when I was sim-trading. The revised 1-tick SL got hit all the time and I ended up with 5 ticks for most 2-contract trades. That's why I adjusted it to PT 6. Having said that, I wasn't using the 4-Range set up as my primary chart. Let's see what may happen this time.

4. Still aim to finish trading before 12:00 noon. 2-3 profitable trades everyday (even one) would be an Amazing start for me!

5. Preserve Precious Capital and No Over-trading are always on my Priority List.

Almost EOD and get ready for Market Replay LOL!

Beth

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