Was just wondering if anyone here had any experience with Rick Vinecki and his site called Beyond profile.
Here's his site: Market Profile, Auction Market Theory, Futures Trading, Next Generation. Any comments welcome, good, bad, indifferent.....
As a side note Rick was with Valuezonetrading a few years ago and broke off on his own.

So after seeing what seemed like a pretty interesting webinar that focused on market profile type trading, I decided to take a trial on this room. What a disappointment. He sat there all day staring at the ES (and only the ES) and muttering about how it was a "tough day" which indeed, it was rather choppy. Don't know how he'd see it with all clutter on the chart, though. Anyway...late in the day, the market broke to the downside and made a rather sizable move and he didn't even notice it or if he did, he certainly didn't trade it! I never went back.

jzastresek 

So after seeing what seemed like a pretty interesting webinar that focused on market profile type trading, I decided to take a trial on this room. What a disappointment. He sat there all day staring at the ES (and only the ES) and muttering about how it was a "tough day" which indeed, it was rather choppy. Don't know how he'd see it with all clutter on the chart, though. Anyway...late in the day, the market broke to the downside and made a rather sizable move and he didn't even notice it or if he did, he certainly didn't trade it! I never went back.

yes it was a very tough day, up/down up/down you never know what happen next.

jzastresek 

... Anyway...late in the day, the market broke to the downside and made a rather sizable move and he didn't even notice it or if he did, he certainly didn't trade it! I never went back.

He was probably looking beyond a preponderance of evidences

Actually it's been a while since I spent any time with Rick and after seeing no responses to this thread I thought I would pay him a visit. I have been in the room (on and off) since Monday and know for a fact there were some good trades. I didn't take all his trades because I wasn't monitoring all the time but I think it's a mistake to write him off if he had a bad day somewhere. I do know that today anyway he had a good day. He really likes to buy at the bottom and sell at the top and go with the trend more or less.

I spent a month with them and they were not a good fit for me. I never did understand there trades while I was there, but that was my fault. I did not know much, how to use MP in my trading before or after my month with them. This was around April of 2011.
They offer a one week free trial. They may be a good fit for you.

Does Rick show his dom with entries, exits stops etc. ? Or does he at least call out his trades as they happen ?

TheSeeker 

Does Rick show his dom with entries, exits stops etc. ? Or does he at least call out his trades as they happen ?

No he does not show his dom, he gives live commentary and calls the trades ahead of time...how much notice you get depends on conditions but, most all of the time you have plenty of notce that something is coming up.
He will also tell you if it's risky or not in his view and what targets and stops are before the trades are taken.
You just see the charts he's looking at as far as what's on your screen. There is a chat for additional commentary and/or if you have questions etc....

i like the commulative delta indictor - i think its good for overbought and oversold conditions - is it something you can share in zip form

thanks

cory 

yes it was a very tough day, up/down up/down you never know what happen next.