sleepy 

bluemele, Take a look at perrys webinar Webinar: Perry's Trading Method Around 00:36.00 - 00:43:30 sleepy

Thanks... I figured those were linear reg lines like Shadow Traders. His system is almost identical to the vendor...

MT4 has the HLC/3 built in, but no idea on how to do it in Ninja. I will look for his indie on his thread.

EDIT: Ok, figured it out. I never ever play with Moving averages in Ninja..

PandaWarrior 

Risk is the swing, target is 16 ticks unless I think I can get a few more due to the distance to the next swing. I do have a stop strategy but since I think stops are highly personal, its not worth mentioning here. Suffice to say, I get to BE pretty darn fast. And yes, it is similar to the Odyssey except that Mike would trade regardless of direction of the trend and his SMA was an 8 period I believe. The MA I think was to short to be of real use on a 5M and I don't trade counter trend and I have consolidation and transitional market state filters. I think he was using a stoch to help him filter trades. I don't like panel two indicators at all.

I never tried trading minute time frames. Putting your stop behind the entry bar or behind the swing high/low will give you a variable stop size depending how big the bars are at the time. If you get a signal from a tight consolidation, you have an awesome risk/reward, but if the volatility is high, you will tend to get worst risk/reward. What is the typical stop size do you generally get on average for the CL 1 minute with your approach? Do you ever pass on trades because putting your stop behind the swing would give you too bad a risk reward?

monpere 

I never tried trading minute time frames. Putting your stop behind the entry bar or behind the swing high/low will give you a variable stop size depending how big the bars are at the time. If you get a signal from a tight consolidation, you have an awesome risk/reward, but if the volatility is high, you will tend to get worst risk/reward. What is the typical stop size do you generally get on average for the CL 1 minute with your approach? Do you ever pass on trades because putting your stop behind the swing would give you too bad a risk reward?

this is a good point.I traded off a 1 minute for a long time, and, after watching it today, i actually miss the simplicity.I put it up next to my 4 range, for the cl, and it takes alot of noise out(obviously).I think part of the decision to consider the trade, is partly based on the pivot candle running away.If its too big(thus, requiring a larger stop), just wait for the next signal.Also, getting in at the beginning of the swing is important, obviously.And , what are the sizes of the swings previous to the present signal.So many things to consider, when choosing to pass or not.It seems like PandaWarriors filtering , patience, and discipline is really what is making the difference, and as another post referred to, waiting for a specific scenario to evolve, and then strike....Im not answering for Pandawarrior, just had some thoughts.

also, do you mind sharing your template?

monpere 

I never tried trading minute time frames. Putting your stop behind the entry bar or behind the swing high/low will give you a variable stop size depending how big the bars are at the time. If you get a signal from a tight consolidation, you have an awesome risk/reward, but if the volatility is high, you will tend to get worst risk/reward. What is the typical stop size do you generally get on average for the CL 1 minute with your approach? Do you ever pass on trades because putting your stop behind the swing would give you too bad a risk reward?

To be honest, I have taken trades this last week with an inverted risk to reward ratio. I just move the stop pretty fast once price gets going in my favor. If its over 20 ticks, I guess I would hesitate. Most of the time its around 10-15 ticks. Sometimes less.

bobarian 

this is a good point.I traded off a 1 minute for a long time, and, after watching it today, i actually miss the simplicity.I put it up next to my 4 range, for the cl, and it takes alot of noise out(obviously).I think part of the decision to consider the trade, is partly based on the pivot candle running away.If its too big(thus, requiring a larger stop), just wait for the next signal.Also, getting in at the beginning of the swing is important, obviously.And , what are the sizes of the swings previous to the present signal.So many things to consider, when choosing to pass or not.It seems like PandaWarriors filtering , patience, and discipline is really what is making the difference, and as another post referred to, waiting for a specific scenario to evolve, and then strike....Im not answering for Pandawarrior, just had some thoughts.

In all fairness, I've taken quite a few regardless of the R:R. Since I am a scalper, as long as the conditions are present, I think I can take them all. I passed on one today because the risk was bigger than normal but the result was the same. A nice winner. I think the idea is buy strength and sell weakness. One of the guys I used as a model for this takes them all regardless of the risk bar....he rarely loses and he uses a 5M chart for this. I saw him take a trade after a 40 tick bar once. No way I could do that, but he made his target and his targets are much larger than mine.

madLyfe 

also, do you mind sharing your template?

Yep....

here you go:

Open a 1M ETH
Place a 89SMA on it. Doesnt matter if its a color changer or not
Place a 21EMA on it. Doesnt matter if it changes color or not.

Thats it. Read price action around the MA's after that.

PandaWarrior 

Yep.... here you go: Open a 1M ETH Place a 89SMA on it. Doesnt matter if its a color changer or not Place a 21EMA on it. Doesnt matter if it changes color or not. Thats it. Read price action around the MA's after that.

thanks panda.. ive been a silent reader and enjoy your info!

I'm on another computer besides my trading one so I have no charts today....but it was a tough day for me.....I had an itchy trigger finger. I kept wanting to short when the chart was long.....not sure why but I could't shake it....so I traded it on sim. Predictably, I was stopped out all three times I tried it.

But I managed to go long when the chart said to go long, made some money, lost some money, then finally got the short signal I was so desperately looking for and made my daily goal. I like to average about 30 ticks a day but I will take more of course when its good trading and if its tough, I'll settle with whatever I have at the end of my session. I nailed the 30 ticks minutes before I had to quit.

After that, I shut down the platform, walked out the door to run some errands and ended up at the hospital all day where my dad had driven himself after experiencing very rapid heartbeat.....a resting 160bpm it turns out. Anyway it looks like he will be fine but is staying the night for some tests and observation.

Today is probably my last CL trading day for the month. I've always had a hard time in December and so last year I promised I would not trade in December. So since I have the option to not trade, I'm not. Instead, I am going to play around with forex on sim and see if I can apply the same lessons I've learned to forex and if I can, I may start doing some longer term swing trades on small lots to perhaps look at a long term wealth building plan.

Cheers.

PandaWarrior 

Instead, I am going to play around with forex on sim and see if I can apply the same lessons I've learned to forex and if I can, I may start doing some longer term swing trades on small lots to perhaps look at a long term wealth building plan. Cheers.

Hey, no stealing plans..... haha...

Forex is murder in December. I think all things traded are terrible in December....