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Selling Options on Futures?

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From a twitter post. Possible range of NG prices given implied volatility of options. This is 20th of November data, so after the implosion of optionsellers.com (would be good to see same chart before prices moved) but this is saying that a move to $10 in NGH9 would only be a 2 standard deviation move given the implied volatility.




Actually this Twitter person has also posted in this thread.

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https://marketexclusive.com/intl-fcstone-inc-nasdaqintl-files-an-8-k-regulation-fd-disclosure-3/2018/11/


So the FCM, FCStone just did an 8K filing stating they are on the hook for over $35 million more than the client base actually had in their accounts.

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https://marketexclusive.com/intl-fcstone-inc-nasdaqintl-files-an-8-k-regulation-fd-disclosure-3/2018/11/


So the FCM, FCStone just did an 8K filing stating they are on the hook for over $35 million more than the client base actually had in their accounts.

And that the clients need to pay it. The same clients who’ll be suing FC and OS for losing their money. This is going to get nasty.

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Hey everybody,

It's amazing how strong this thread is still going. I had wanted to start trading years ago when I was on the thread but because of the capital controls here in Greece I was unable to wire money abroad. By next year 2019 we are told capital controls will be lifted. If anyone here is willing to backtest the recent crash in crude per ron99''s rules delta .02 or less 25 to 30 dollars OTM selling puts. I also have a theoretical question. Say with crude. Theoretically the price of crude can go up to infinity but it can never go below zero. So if you were a very conservative trader and traded with only 10% of your account could you theoretically rollover or scale down all the way to zero assuming oil isn't trading over $100. Thanks and looking forward to trading beginning of next year.

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Hey guys,

Is this thread not being used anymore? Am I too late to the party

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Hey everybody,

It's amazing how strong this thread is still going. I had wanted to start trading years ago when I was on the thread but because of the capital controls here in Greece I was unable to wire money abroad. By next year 2019 we are told capital controls will be lifted. If anyone here is willing to backtest the recent crash in crude per ron99''s rules delta .02 or less 25 to 30 dollars OTM selling puts. I also have a theoretical question. Say with crude. Theoretically the price of crude can go up to infinity but it can never go below zero. So if you were a very conservative trader and traded with only 10% of your account could you theoretically rollover or scale down all the way to zero assuming oil isn't trading over $100. Thanks and looking forward to trading beginning of next year.

You will find comments on this topic in this thread. Studies showed that Ron's the concept does not work for CL or other commodities.

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 Selim 
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Myrrdin,

Do you have a trading strategy trading crude oil, and thanks for replying, I thought I was replying to myself

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 ron99 
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Selim View Post
Hey everybody,

It's amazing how strong this thread is still going. I had wanted to start trading years ago when I was on the thread but because of the capital controls here in Greece I was unable to wire money abroad. By next year 2019 we are told capital controls will be lifted. If anyone here is willing to backtest the recent crash in crude per ron99''s rules delta .02 or less 25 to 30 dollars OTM selling puts. I also have a theoretical question. Say with crude. Theoretically the price of crude can go up to infinity but it can never go below zero. So if you were a very conservative trader and traded with only 10% of your account could you theoretically rollover or scale down all the way to zero assuming oil isn't trading over $100. Thanks and looking forward to trading beginning of next year.

You asked something that was already covered in the thread. I didn't need to backtest because I know you would have hit a margin call.

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Myrrdin,

Do you have a trading strategy trading crude oil, and thanks for replying, I thought I was replying to myself

No, I do not have a trading strategy for CL. I do not have any systematic option selling strategy.

I place my trades discretionarily, deciding for each trade separately how to enter and to exit it.

You find more about my way of trading in the thread "Diversified Option selling Portfolio".

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Hello Ron
What do you think about opening an ES-2 + 3 position to these levels of the S & P?
I do not want to guess the floor of the index, but given the depth of the fall, we could risk taking into account that the margin of fall from now on could be assumed by the strategy without reaching a margin call. And if on the other hand, the S & P starts to rise we could get a profit in a short time. What you think?
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